EPT[GSL] 2012 Season 1 Group Nomination Ro16 - Page 58
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power-overwhelming
Canada306 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On January 25 2012 06:38 power-overwhelming wrote: This guy actually thinks Leenock is better than MC? lol He thinks leenock is currently better;) Just watched mc v mkp in gsl open 3. God i hate mc (for the same reasons i became a flash fan back then) | ||
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double620
China804 Posts
On January 25 2012 05:42 PrinceXizor wrote: the funny thing is, the list you just made of people who have been to the finals once? leenock hasn't lost to any of those names. he's lost to (in the past 6 months) MKP ( 3 GSL silvers) Polt ( 1 GSL gold) MC (2 GSl golds) Nestea ( 3 GSL golds ) MVP ( 2 GSL golds 1 silver) MMA (2 GSL golds 1 silver) Ganzi (2nd best TvZ win rate at 79%) Happy (best TvZ win rate at 89%) Jjakji (1 GSL gold) Alive (most consistant code S player) and only one other player (supernova) leenock has been knocked out of the GSL by Jjakji (in finals) MC (in Groups) Ganzi (RO 16) MKP (code A RO 8) in the past 6 months. It's no joke when people say Leenock is unlucky, he has always had the hardest road in the GSL of any player, and he consistantly makes it back to code S and takes down a few players. MC has been knocked out of GSL by SC (in groups) someone in code A RO 16 (MC's TLPD is inadequate for his losses) Monster (code A groups) Noblesse (in groups) Hongun (RO 8) Alicia (RO 64 super tournament) lately it seems MC has been doing FAR worse than leenock, and since a list of best players should be current. it seems obvious MC would not be above leenock, even though he's 4-2 against leenock in leenocks worst matchup. Jjakji (in finals) MC (in Groups) Ganzi (RO 16) MKP (code A RO 8) in the past 6 months. This is the list U give that contains ppl who defeated Leenock and I do not see them as hard opponents to Mc. In fact, Mc won a lot more than the ppl in this list. By the way the players here exclude Mc himself are all terrans and zvt is Leenock's best mu. Mc had played a lot more games than Leenock so it made sense that he lost a lot more to many ppl2 and you have to consider that toss had a hard time in the sencond half of 2011. Mc's style have been figured out and he still stays strong. Let us see if Leenock can do the same after his style gets figured out. Leenock did a lot better than Mc? What a joke! Their skill look close because toss had a hard time in gsl for months and now toss started to recover and Mc dominoted Leenock like Leenock is a no name. Even when Mc was jetlagged, Leenock had to prepare cheeses and hope he can get lucky. Even ppl like MVP would tell you Mc is the best toss there and Leenock? I am not sure if he belongs to top 3 zergs in the world. | ||
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phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
Will have to see next season if same thing is done or changed up a bit. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On January 25 2012 13:19 phANT1m wrote: Anywaysssssssssss I would have hoped they put the players who came first from Ro32 as number one seed in each group. Will have to see next season if same thing is done or changed up a bit. That doesn't work mathematically as they are 8 groups in ro32 meaning 8 seeders but next round is ro16 which is 4 groups. So it doesn't work. This is why GOM used GSLrankings. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On January 25 2012 13:19 phANT1m wrote: Anywaysssssssssss I would have hoped they put the players who came first from Ro32 as number one seed in each group. Will have to see next season if same thing is done or changed up a bit. they will do it based on total GSL points for the current year, the first of every year will be based on the previous year, because there are no GSL points earned in the new year until after the first GSL. at least thats the plan. | ||
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On January 25 2012 05:42 PrinceXizor wrote: the funny thing is, the list you just made of people who have been to the finals once? leenock hasn't lost to any of those names. he's lost to (in the past 6 months) MKP ( 3 GSL silvers) Polt ( 1 GSL gold) MC (2 GSl golds) Nestea ( 3 GSL golds ) MVP ( 2 GSL golds 1 silver) MMA (2 GSL golds 1 silver) Ganzi (2nd best TvZ win rate at 79%) Happy (best TvZ win rate at 89%) Jjakji (1 GSL gold) Alive (most consistant code S player) and only one other player (supernova) leenock has been knocked out of the GSL by Jjakji (in finals) MC (in Groups) Ganzi (RO 16) MKP (code A RO 8) in the past 6 months. It's no joke when people say Leenock is unlucky, he has always had the hardest road in the GSL of any player, and he consistantly makes it back to code S and takes down a few players. MC has been knocked out of GSL by SC (in groups) someone in code A RO 16 (MC's TLPD is inadequate for his losses) Monster (code A groups) Noblesse (in groups) Hongun (RO 8) Alicia (RO 64 super tournament) lately it seems MC has been doing FAR worse than leenock, and since a list of best players should be current. it seems obvious MC would not be above leenock, even though he's 4-2 against leenock in leenocks worst matchup. Code A groups? wat? Someone in Code A ro16? Sorry to break it to you, MC has never been in Code A ro16, ever. Probably the reason the non existent games aren't in TLPD. At least get your facts straight. And hes 5-2, not 4-2. | ||
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truewt
Singapore121 Posts
On January 25 2012 14:34 Olinimm wrote: Code A groups? wat? Someone in Code A ro16? Sorry to break it to you, MC has never been in Code A ro16, ever. Probably the reason the non existent games aren't in TLPD. At least get your facts straight. And hes 5-2, not 4-2. agree, he was ousted by Monster in code A RO32, not RO16. | ||
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jkang
United States404 Posts
On January 25 2012 07:00 Heimatloser wrote: Just asking, are those last three phrases supposed to be related to one another? Cuz I have no idea what the Flash thing means, other than that you hate MC for beating MKP through an all-in, cheese, and then a legit macro game. Just curious.He thinks leenock is currently better;) Just watched mc v mkp in gsl open 3. God i hate mc (for the same reasons i became a flash fan back then) | ||
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double620
China804 Posts
On January 25 2012 14:38 truewt wrote: agree, he was ousted by Monster in code A RO32, not RO16. That just goes to show you how imbalanced the game was at that time and that was why Leenock looked closed to Mc's level. Once toss started to recover, Leenock only can cheese Mc and even so he never looked close to beating Mc. | ||
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On January 25 2012 19:17 double620 wrote: That just goes to show you how imbalanced the game was at that time and that was why Leenock looked closed to Mc's level. Once toss started to recover, Leenock only can cheese Mc and even so he never looked close to beating Mc. Protoss whine  | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On January 24 2012 15:53 tuho12345 wrote: Both Jjajkji and MVP advanced in the last set and 3rd game of that set while MMA completely dominated in his group and just came back with an IEM cup. What do you think? Jjajkji and MVP both have no chance against MMA in TvT for sure. I hope you remember that MVP's group had Nestea. MMA beat MVP a few times because he found a weakness and probably because MVP's wrists are so troublesome. Let him rest them a bit, prepare again and watch as he bends MMA over a fence next time. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On January 25 2012 19:17 double620 wrote: That just goes to show you how imbalanced the game was at that time and that was why Leenock looked closed to Mc's level. Once toss started to recover, Leenock only can cheese Mc and even so he never looked close to beating Mc. you do know that at the time MC beat leenock, (both times) Zergs in korea think it's impossible to beat protoss. so the "it was at a bad time" argument is very poor, because it works both ways. there is a reason that protosses are doing twice as well as zergs are right now in korea. | ||
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double620
China804 Posts
On January 26 2012 02:33 PrinceXizor wrote: you do know that at the time MC beat leenock, (both times) Zergs in korea think it's impossible to beat protoss. so the "it was at a bad time" argument is very poor, because it works both ways. there is a reason that protosses are doing twice as well as zergs are right now in korea. The reason is simple. Mc is back. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On January 24 2012 18:57 HappyVlane wrote: That's a pretty big assumption to make seeing as how MMA is Mvp's kryptonite. MVP is a smart player, he can adapt to MMA. Perhaps MMA is the best player right now, but MVP was the best for a very long time, and he is simply a brilliant player. | ||
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double620
China804 Posts
On January 26 2012 04:29 kyllinghest wrote: MVP is a smart player, he can adapt to MMA. Perhaps MMA is the best player right now, but MVP was the best for a very long time, and he is simply a brilliant player. MMA is good and he destroyed MVP twice in blizz cup and a gsl final. However, it was not that convincing. MVP had to play MMA after he just finished a big tournament both times. Also, MMA has goddly T V Z for sure. His tvp is questionable. And his tvt although good enough to crush MVP, it looks a bit shaky against Players like Polt and MKP. I know MMA is a great players but right now I would still call MVP the best terran in the world. Afterall, Mvp won a lot more than MMA and looks more solid overall in my opinion. | ||
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
On January 26 2012 04:51 double620 wrote: MMA is good and he destroyed MVP twice in blizz cup and a gsl final. However, it was not that convincing. MVP had to play MMA after he just finished a big tournament both times. Also, MMA has goddly T V Z for sure. His tvp is questionable. And his tvt although good enough to crush MVP, it looks a bit shaky against Players like Polt and MKP. I know MMA is a great players but right now I would still call MVP the best terran in the world. Afterall, Mvp won a lot more than MMA and looks more solid overall in my opinion. He's really shaky against early aggro builds... his heart of SC2 comes into play in the late macro stage of the game. MKP and POLT shine in their early aggro play. | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Hoping for Genius though! | ||
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