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Please try not to bash players, casters, countries, races, users, balance, apple pie, etc. in the Live Report threads. These threads are not meant for bashing.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#781
On January 19 2012 23:06 Origine wrote:
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On January 19 2012 23:03 HaXXspetten wrote:
Update:

Liquipedia says:

* NaNiwa was reported to have forfeited after his first game, due to technical issues[7], but was later announced to still being in the tournament.[8]

WTF, someone is trolling us lol

No you're not being trolled, you're just a bunch of drama whores who exagerate every single thing that happens during any sc2 events.

blame twitter and information spread
Stork[gm]
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#782
Yeah Apollo and TLO! Too many people to root for this time, too tough to predict. I think as long as a Korean doesn't win I'll be happy though.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#783
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
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On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#784
On January 19 2012 23:06 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
All this swe bias is freezing my PC for about 10sec.


haha ... cute
Villi
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway49 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#785
On January 19 2012 23:04 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:02 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:59 ptrpb wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.

To what degree? What if a tournament forced them to play one race, without a chair, on the KR server on Steppes of War while lagging.
The pros shouldn't say anything because they're doing what the fans and sponsors want right?
Fuck no, SC2 is about the players more than anyone else.

Lag is not the end of the world. It's more like playing football in the rain.

And it's not about the players more than anyone else. It's a symbiotic relationship between players, fans, casters and sponsors. Without all of them none of this is possible.

Without players, there is no scene
Without sponsors, there is still a scene, it's not funded
Without casters, there is still a scene, it's not casted
Without fans, there is still a scene, it's not popular

Without the players, you can have nothing else.

But without Naniwa (or any player x) there are still other players to take his place.
Pew Pew
Umilard
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:08:29
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#786
Naniwa gets angry as fuck, simple as that. It's not like he's hurting anyone but himself with his tantrums so I dunno why everyone gets so angry.
laggikoN
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden213 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#787
On January 19 2012 23:06 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
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On January 19 2012 23:03 laggikoN wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3

,
Wow, look at all these French people bashing the swedes.. Oh wait it's not all of you Oh, and it's people from all over the place being on both sides of this?
Stfu with your bullshit -.-


To be fair, there is nothing wrong with his statement. Those Swedes indicates a group of Swedes, not every Swede.


True but it's also implied that swedes are on one side of the fence and everyone else is on the other... From what i can see there are, like i said, people from all over the place on both sides...
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#788
CONFIRMED: Naniwa will play vs Whitera and TITAN and probe rush every game
SaSe fan club manager
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#789
What.. Not cross spawns only.. Why -_-
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#790
On January 19 2012 23:00 ReaperX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:57 Tobblish wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa


I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc.

@ the Nani update, I really hope that it's PC related, really looking forward to good games.



The fuck is your problem? TargA is top 50 on the EU ladder right now ... SEA SILVER????


I really hope he does well, so that this bullshit about SEA not having good players will finally stop.
And TargA is Top 20 GM EU isnt he?
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#791
On January 19 2012 23:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:03 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3

I'm defending him too.

Aussie pride.

You defend everyone looking at your sig lol...

Because many TL posters are morons who shit on a player because they're completely ignorant about them.

And I don't defend everyone...I don't like Socke.

How can you not like Socke? :O
JohnnyBB85
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#792
It's true that Lag is a problem created by Blizzard (and which could be fixed by some kind of tournament lan mode).

But: Everyone has to deal with lag. Naniwa should have adjusted to it (like Strelok and probably all other pros) and he didn't. He lost because his plans didn't work (3rd game was simply a failed rush..) and since he is a sore loser (proven by his GSL stunt) he quit the tournament.

That is NOT professional, especially after throwing gsl games. Right now he should be proving to us that he belongs in the professional SC2 scene, regardless of winning or losing.

I initially thought Nani was a cool player, but he seems more and more unable to deal with losing games he is predicted to win. He sees himself at the top, but really isn't.
Commentating is easy, you just keep talking until you think of something to talk about.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#793
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#794
lol this map discussion is hilarious. but sucks that it is not closs, what the difference between this and ladder then?
Liquid`HerO!!!
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#795
On January 19 2012 23:00 ReaperX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:57 Tobblish wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:53 dde wrote:
Whoever took my spot at kiev hope it wasnt naniwa


I think they got a Silver SEA to replace you, no offense ofc.

@ the Nani update, I really hope that it's PC related, really looking forward to good games.



The fuck is your problem? TargA is top 50 on the EU ladder right now ... SEA SILVER????


Maybe he was referring to TargA taking 2nd place to sea qualifiers? Don't know if he was though
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#796
Haha, TLO's laugh is wonderful :D
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#797
On January 19 2012 23:07 Umilard wrote:
Naniwa gets angry as fuck, simple as that. It's not like he's hurting anyone but himself with his tantrums so I dunno why everyone gets to angry.

well I get angry because I care about him and don't want to see him fuck himself over by being a child.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#798
On January 19 2012 23:04 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:02 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:59 ptrpb wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.

To what degree? What if a tournament forced them to play one race, without a chair, on the KR server on Steppes of War while lagging.
The pros shouldn't say anything because they're doing what the fans and sponsors want right?
Fuck no, SC2 is about the players more than anyone else.

Lag is not the end of the world. It's more like playing football in the rain.

And it's not about the players more than anyone else. It's a symbiotic relationship between players, fans, casters and sponsors. Without all of them none of this is possible.

Without players, there is no scene
Without sponsors, there is still a scene, it's not funded
Without casters, there is still a scene, it's not casted
Without fans, there is still a scene, it's not popular

Without the players, you can have nothing else.

EVERYONE is needed. Players without fans, sponsors, casters might as well not exist, pretty much like the foreigner BW scene.
Moderator
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
January 19 2012 14:08 GMT
#799
On January 19 2012 23:04 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:02 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:59 ptrpb wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.

To what degree? What if a tournament forced them to play one race, without a chair, on the KR server on Steppes of War while lagging.
The pros shouldn't say anything because they're doing what the fans and sponsors want right?
Fuck no, SC2 is about the players more than anyone else.

Lag is not the end of the world. It's more like playing football in the rain.

And it's not about the players more than anyone else. It's a symbiotic relationship between players, fans, casters and sponsors. Without all of them none of this is possible.

Without players, there is no scene
Without sponsors, there is still a scene, it's not funded
Without casters, there is still a scene, it's not casted
Without fans, there is still a scene, it's not popular

Without the players, you can have nothing else.


Yes, fan support is the most important force right now in esports since it is still a budding community. But if the players aren't presented with the proper conditions to play out a real game, what is the point of even watching? Imagine if a CS Tourney was so badly organized that it forced the teams to play with like 100+ ping (of course that'd never happen cuz they have LAN lollll)
At least Nani is taking a stand.
giorgio
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland32 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#800
Naniwa will get 0-3 in his group. Ehhh, "adult kido".
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