• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:57
CEST 00:57
KST 07:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon405.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes39Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)102
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf First season(s) of tastosis gomtv gsl vods?
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4861 users

[IEM] Kiev - Day 1 - Page 41

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 39 40 41 42 43 142 Next
Please try not to bash players, casters, countries, races, users, balance, apple pie, etc. in the Live Report threads. These threads are not meant for bashing.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#801
On January 19 2012 23:08 silverstyle wrote:
lol this map discussion is hilarious. but sucks that it is not closs, what the difference between this and ladder then?


Pretty sure no golds in the middle of the map. Most tournaments seem to be going that way.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#802
On January 19 2012 23:07 Villi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:04 ptrpb wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:02 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:59 ptrpb wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.

To what degree? What if a tournament forced them to play one race, without a chair, on the KR server on Steppes of War while lagging.
The pros shouldn't say anything because they're doing what the fans and sponsors want right?
Fuck no, SC2 is about the players more than anyone else.

Lag is not the end of the world. It's more like playing football in the rain.

And it's not about the players more than anyone else. It's a symbiotic relationship between players, fans, casters and sponsors. Without all of them none of this is possible.

Without players, there is no scene
Without sponsors, there is still a scene, it's not funded
Without casters, there is still a scene, it's not casted
Without fans, there is still a scene, it's not popular

Without the players, you can have nothing else.

But without Naniwa (or any player x) there are still other players to take his place.

You missed the point.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:10:00
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#803
--- Nuked ---
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:10:19
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#804
--- Nuked ---
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:11:47
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#805
On January 19 2012 23:08 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?


THIS:
+ Show Spoiler +



Nothing to add.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#806
On January 19 2012 23:08 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:03 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3

I'm defending him too.

Aussie pride.

You defend everyone looking at your sig lol...

Because many TL posters are morons who shit on a player because they're completely ignorant about them.

And I don't defend everyone...I don't like Socke.

How can you not like Socke? :O


Wow indeed Socke is like the most chill dude out there.

Get the pichforks !!!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:10:07
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#807
On January 19 2012 23:08 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?


Winner won the group, but it meant they would play Sen in the next round. Neither wanted that so they played a stupid bo3 with silly strategies. In the end Stephano won the game and beat Sen though.
discobaas
Profile Joined December 2011
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:10:23
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#808
On January 19 2012 23:08 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?

I believe they were, allegedly, trying to lose on purpose to avoid a strong player in bracket, not 100% sure though
you're wrong
CrugerDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark323 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#809
I think more players should refuse to play if the standard doesn't improve. I don't think anyone would have been raising pitchforks if players had refused to play in PPSL.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#810
admins pls whs... arent they using busy mode?
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 19 2012 14:09 GMT
#811
On January 19 2012 23:08 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?

Brat_OK and Stephano tried their best to lose their bo3 because they wanted to avoid playing Sen in the next round
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#812
On January 19 2012 23:08 silverstyle wrote:
lol this map discussion is hilarious. but sucks that it is not closs, what the difference between this and ladder then?

Supply depots at the bottom of the ramp.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#813
I wish Blizzard would care just a little bit about SC2 as an e-sport and if not LAN at least implement a tournament version.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#814
On January 19 2012 23:08 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?


Both players tried their best to lose the game, because the winner of it would have to face Sen. The games were something like proxy-hatch vs 1-Base-BC.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#815
On January 19 2012 23:08 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:07 Xoronius wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:04 Tuthur wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 23:00 Ellenpagee wrote:
awwww all those swedes trying to defend their naniwa , how cuuuuute <3<3


You french are the same when stephano loses so don't laugh at others.

how can you even compare Stephano and Naniwa's professionalism, I don't think Stephano ever misbehaved or annoyed the hell out of the admins of a tournament.


Stephano never misbehaved? do you remember Asemmbly Summer vs Brat_OK?


wat happened?
Both tried to throw the game to avoid playing SEn in the ro16s.
#freeshauni
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#816
IEM..
SnuggleKittens
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia57 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#817
On January 19 2012 23:04 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:02 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:59 ptrpb wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 Myles wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:56 andis35 wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:54 Poisonblack wrote:
There were 2 players out there:

Strelok giving a good example and showing how a pro SHOULD behave in such a condition.

And unsurprisingly, naniwa showing the exact opposite like the immature child he is. So self-centered with 0 respect to his team, fans, and 'fellow' pro gamers and letting them all down...


Wrong. Pro should not be silent if playing conditions are not optimal.

Sure they should. It's called be professional and providing the entertainment that the fans want and sponsors expect.

To what degree? What if a tournament forced them to play one race, without a chair, on the KR server on Steppes of War while lagging.
The pros shouldn't say anything because they're doing what the fans and sponsors want right?
Fuck no, SC2 is about the players more than anyone else.

Lag is not the end of the world. It's more like playing football in the rain.

And it's not about the players more than anyone else. It's a symbiotic relationship between players, fans, casters and sponsors. Without all of them none of this is possible.

Without players, there is no scene
Without sponsors, there is still a scene, it's not funded
Without casters, there is still a scene, it's not casted
Without fans, there is still a scene, it's not popular

Without the players, you can have nothing else.


You cannot be serious, the fans are the most important. There will always be players but it's starcraft's popularity makes it so great, big tournaments with big prize money provided by sponsers because of the fans.

If its all about the players why don't you go and watch some pro Company of Heroes.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#818
This is just Ladder map, but with depots at bottom of ramp? Weird. Why not cross only and no gold, poor choice.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#819
On January 19 2012 23:09 Frankon wrote:
admins pls whs... arent they using busy mode?

You can still see whispers if you want to via clicking on the friend list
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#820
Cute attempt at the probe micro white-ra
Prev 1 39 40 41 42 43 142 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE174
ProTech111
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 696
Artosis 445
Rush 189
Dewaltoss 99
Bale 11
Dota 2
XaKoH 392
Counter-Strike
summit1g8363
Fnx 1127
minikerr17
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King273
PPMD34
Other Games
Grubby3431
C9.Mang0259
RotterdaM148
ToD118
Maynarde2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick35308
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 3m
The PondCast
11h 3m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
CrankTV Team League
1d 12h
OSC
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.