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Please try not to bash players, casters, countries, races, users, balance, apple pie, etc. in the Live Report threads. These threads are not meant for bashing.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 20:10:38
January 19 2012 20:09 GMT
#2161
On January 20 2012 05:08 Luk_e wrote:
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On January 20 2012 05:05 DamageControL wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 jj33 wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:57 Baituri wrote:
People asking why Zenio is playing so bad, Kas is playing really good, he makes you look bad...



no zenio is playing super bad/sloppy


Well, Kas is very good, and it's true he's playing well. Obviously Zenio got outplayed this series. I don't know how good he is normally, but these games were very sloppy and seriously bring into question his multitasking abilities.

hes code s good


I reckon he's more likely to settle into the Code A region tbh, didn't really look like he belonged in Code S this season and only made it back after Inca failed to defend a scouted roach bust in the up and downs lol.
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
January 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#2162
Ok I'm really happy for Kas and really sad for Grubby.
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
January 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#2163
On January 20 2012 04:48 bananafever wrote:
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On January 20 2012 04:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:44 Rhedsa wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:37 bananafever wrote:
infestor ling is not viable against tank/marine imo.. you can't trade efficiently and you can never kill the medivacs.. kas didn't even drop the main.. this style only kinda works if you totally crush an early push with lots of lings ..

Stephano disagrees ... for example you can kill die medivacs with some fungals+infested terrans. But Kas showed how to micro perfect against this style last game - focusing the infestors and banes with tanks.
Stephano's style is more refined in his hands, as he's very used to it, and relies on dual evolution chamber for the upgrades. It's not the composition that makes it good, it's the way it all fits together timing wise, Zenio can't just adjust on the fly to fit to a well-timed out, differing style and do it as well as if he had pre-planned it.


you think killing medivacs with infestors is efficient?? it's not..


i think it's good enough to trade some regenerating infestor energy against flying heal-busses which won't let marines die. sure mutas are better for this, but not as versatil and cannot control space on the map as well.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#2164
On January 20 2012 05:10 Malaz wrote:
Ok I'm really happy for Kas and really sad for Grubby.


Life is about balance.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
January 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#2165
On January 20 2012 05:09 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:08 Luk_e wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:05 DamageControL wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 jj33 wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:57 Baituri wrote:
People asking why Zenio is playing so bad, Kas is playing really good, he makes you look bad...



no zenio is playing super bad/sloppy


Well, Kas is very good, and it's true he's playing well. Obviously Zenio got outplayed this series. I don't know how good he is normally, but these games were very sloppy and seriously bring into question his multitasking abilities.

hes code s good


I reckon he's more likely to settle into the Code A region tbh.

Yeah, zenio is good but I don't think he's code S material atleast right now.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#2166
On January 20 2012 05:08 Luk_e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:05 DamageControL wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 jj33 wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:57 Baituri wrote:
People asking why Zenio is playing so bad, Kas is playing really good, he makes you look bad...



no zenio is playing super bad/sloppy


Well, Kas is very good, and it's true he's playing well. Obviously Zenio got outplayed this series. I don't know how good he is normally, but these games were very sloppy and seriously bring into question his multitasking abilities.

hes code s good

That's what people say about every foreigner does decently against a Korean. Then they fail miserably in GSL.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
January 19 2012 20:11 GMT
#2167
On January 20 2012 05:09 Noocta wrote:
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On January 20 2012 05:08 Elefanto wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:06 Noocta wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:03 Sackings wrote:
Kas, best foreigner terran imo


He's definitly a better player mechanics wise than Thorzain, but Kas get nervous a lot sometimes, and Thorzain is a bit slow and unconsistent..
It's close between them atleast it's sure.


If you count Select as a foreigner, he's up there as well.


As everyone know, Select is only a foreigner when he lose. Otherwise he's Korean.

:d


Got that backwards
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 19 2012 20:11 GMT
#2168
On January 20 2012 05:10 Malaz wrote:
Ok I'm really happy for Kas and really sad for Grubby.


same here
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
projectChaos
Profile Joined December 2011
154 Posts
January 19 2012 20:11 GMT
#2169
On January 20 2012 05:06 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:03 Sackings wrote:
Kas, best foreigner terran imo


He's definitly a better player mechanics wise than Thorzain, but Kas get nervous a lot sometimes, and Thorzain is a bit slow and unconsistent..
It's close between them atleast it's sure.


Thorzain is overrated imo. Anything after TSL?
Kas > Goody > Demusilim > Thorzain > Cloud > Naama
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
January 19 2012 20:12 GMT
#2170
poor grubster, he probably paid out of his own pocket to fund this tourney as well
savior did nothing wrong
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
January 19 2012 20:12 GMT
#2171
On January 20 2012 05:10 Malaz wrote:
Ok I'm really happy for Kas and really sad for Grubby.


Yeah, really nice to see Kas playing like to his potential, but really disapointed in Grubby's performance
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
January 19 2012 20:12 GMT
#2172
Is group C going to be played now?
Cackle™
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 19 2012 20:12 GMT
#2173
On January 20 2012 05:10 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:09 Asha` wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:08 Luk_e wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:05 DamageControL wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 jj33 wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:57 Baituri wrote:
People asking why Zenio is playing so bad, Kas is playing really good, he makes you look bad...



no zenio is playing super bad/sloppy


Well, Kas is very good, and it's true he's playing well. Obviously Zenio got outplayed this series. I don't know how good he is normally, but these games were very sloppy and seriously bring into question his multitasking abilities.

hes code s good


I reckon he's more likely to settle into the Code A region tbh.

Yeah, zenio is good but I don't think he's code S material atleast right now.


He's barely Code A material. Frankly he's lucky he even got to Up-and-Downs.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
January 19 2012 20:12 GMT
#2174
On January 20 2012 05:12 TheKefka wrote:
Is group C going to be played now?


C and D are tomorrow
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
January 19 2012 20:12 GMT
#2175
On January 20 2012 05:12 TheKefka wrote:
Is group C going to be played now?

That's tommorow :D
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 19 2012 20:13 GMT
#2176
On January 20 2012 05:11 projectChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:06 Noocta wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:03 Sackings wrote:
Kas, best foreigner terran imo


He's definitly a better player mechanics wise than Thorzain, but Kas get nervous a lot sometimes, and Thorzain is a bit slow and unconsistent..
It's close between them atleast it's sure.


Thorzain is overrated imo. Anything after TSL?
Kas > Goody > Demusilim > Thorzain > Cloud > Naama


lol. Your opinion is invalidated by dismissing Thorzain based on apparent lack of results and then attempting to rank Demuslim above him. Bwahahaha.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 19 2012 20:13 GMT
#2177
On January 20 2012 05:11 projectChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:06 Noocta wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:03 Sackings wrote:
Kas, best foreigner terran imo


He's definitly a better player mechanics wise than Thorzain, but Kas get nervous a lot sometimes, and Thorzain is a bit slow and unconsistent..
It's close between them atleast it's sure.


Thorzain is overrated imo. Anything after TSL?
Kas > Goody > Demusilim > Thorzain > Cloud > Naama

Demuslim is overrated imo. Anything since ever? lol pretty silly ranking.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 19 2012 20:13 GMT
#2178
On January 20 2012 05:10 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:08 Luk_e wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:05 DamageControL wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 jj33 wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:57 Baituri wrote:
People asking why Zenio is playing so bad, Kas is playing really good, he makes you look bad...



no zenio is playing super bad/sloppy


Well, Kas is very good, and it's true he's playing well. Obviously Zenio got outplayed this series. I don't know how good he is normally, but these games were very sloppy and seriously bring into question his multitasking abilities.

hes code s good

That's what people say about every foreigner does decently against a Korean. Then they fail miserably in GSL.


i wouldnt say stephano failed... he played the topstars and went out of his group with 2-2 (mvp, mc, leenock, hero).
i wouldnt call either stephano or kas "Code s level" yet (to qualify for code s you gotta have code S skill AND luck anyway...), but its true that kas is called the best foreign terran over thorzain and select for a while now.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
January 19 2012 20:13 GMT
#2179
On January 20 2012 05:11 projectChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:06 Noocta wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:03 Sackings wrote:
Kas, best foreigner terran imo


He's definitly a better player mechanics wise than Thorzain, but Kas get nervous a lot sometimes, and Thorzain is a bit slow and unconsistent..
It's close between them atleast it's sure.


Thorzain is overrated imo. Anything after TSL?
Kas > Goody > Demusilim > Thorzain > Cloud > Naama

He got 4th in NASL s2, all killed QIM in IPL team arena, and is regarded by koreans as one of the best foreigners. Not to take anything from the other guys but I think thorzain is still the best foreigner terran.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 19 2012 20:13 GMT
#2180
On January 20 2012 05:12 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 05:10 dmnum wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:09 Asha` wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:08 Luk_e wrote:
On January 20 2012 05:05 DamageControL wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:59 jj33 wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:57 Baituri wrote:
People asking why Zenio is playing so bad, Kas is playing really good, he makes you look bad...



no zenio is playing super bad/sloppy


Well, Kas is very good, and it's true he's playing well. Obviously Zenio got outplayed this series. I don't know how good he is normally, but these games were very sloppy and seriously bring into question his multitasking abilities.

hes code s good


I reckon he's more likely to settle into the Code A region tbh.

Yeah, zenio is good but I don't think he's code S material atleast right now.


He's barely Code A material. Frankly he's lucky he even got to Up-and-Downs.


Dude, some days ago he was Code S, top 32 players in the world. WTF?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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