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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:44 cyclone25 wrote: NesTea's ZvP is really overrated. He had good results in past but it was vs average players like Anypro, Inca or HongUn. He also beat MC with it, it's oke you wanne agrue but atleast name all Protoss not only what you consider the bad ones. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:44 cyclone25 wrote: NesTea's ZvP is really overrated. He had good results in past but it was vs average players like Anypro, Inca or HongUn. I hate to say it but this^. Nestea gets overrated a lot. Not saying he isn't one of the best players in the world, but people just jump on his dick without any real understanding of what they're saying a lot of the time. | ||
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36920 Posts
 MIGHT AS WELL ROOT FOR THE GUY WHO PROVED ME WRONG!!! | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:46 Lysanias wrote: He also beat MC with it, it's oke you wanne agrue but atleast name all Protoss not only what you consider the bad ones. tbh...who was actually a good protoss back then? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:36 bgx wrote: the fact is mutas will always win vs pheonix if pheonix isnt stacked and mutas are, the concept of phoenix counter muta is flawed, because they dont have splash dmg, so muta stacking will always win vs phoenix bbecause they stack worse, why? Well if you have 15 mutas concetrated in 1 point only the outlying pheonixes will shoot and all mutas will shot at once 1 shotting 1 phoenix and doing dmg to 2nd. Also the fact is that muta can focus fire while pheonix not. Phoenix is only the support unit vs big muta balls. And zerg players who lose mutas to phoenix just doesnt know that you can nullify them with micro. Corruptors are useless as they are slow and can be outrun. And frankly only 1 player in world does that and its dimaga which baffles me because hes doing it since more than 1 year... its nothing new yet i see players believe in phoenix > muta myth. Because they thing phoenix is the main dealer which is not because its storm/archon that prevents clumping or stalker/cannon because its the main dps. What im saying of course doesnt mean 5 mutas will win vs phoenix what i mean is stacking power of muta which increases dramatically. phoenix are pretty good against mutas, just not in a one vs one situation, because both have to be stacked and then mutas deal extra damage, also the zerg will have more mutas most likely. You use phoenix to have a fast overall protection on your bases, few stalkers along the phoenix or a pair of canons and the mutas can't just chase the phoenix, because they would get damage the longer they try to get the phoenix. And well talking about direct engagements, the real problem why mutas are good in pvz, with phoenix around the mutas die before anything else in a direct engagement, especially since the splash will be redirected on ground units, if there is any thanks to guardian shield. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:45 shabby wrote: Those three players weren't average when the games were played, though. Seem to remember hongun and anypro hitting many Ro8s/Ro4s between them. agreed. they were the top protosses at the time. the only good pvz player though was probably MC and nestea didnt get a chance to face him. however nestea was upwards of like 85% in zvp for a long time which is still ridiculous | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
Probably NesTea can get back to his former glory, which remains to be seen. Pretty disappointing results for DRG and Leenock so far, lost quite a bunch of money.  | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:44 cyclone25 wrote: NesTea's ZvP is really overrated. He had good results in past but it was vs average players like Anypro, Inca or HongUn. You forget MC and Killer which I guess is convenient for your point so you ignore them. Hongun has always been a solid Toss anyways. What other players are there to beat historically for him? That is every good Toss from the older GSL's. He simply hasn't played some of the newer ones. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11035 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:45 Xacalite wrote: oh no.....ive not thought about that....im sad now =( He may be able to get in on the chinese team and work out a partnership? | ||
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frucisky
Singapore2170 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:47 Megabuster123 wrote: I hate to say it but this^. Nestea gets overrated a lot. Not saying he isn't one of the best players in the world, but people just jump on his dick without any real understanding of what they're saying a lot of the time. Mostly cuz Artosis jumps on his dick a lot of the time | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:46 Sc2Null wrote: If we are going by GSL stats which are the only thing that truly matters: Nestea has the best ZvP(statistically) as well in actuality. Had high hopes for Curious but his Code S play seemed rather lacking, also Losira, suprisingly lost to Parting.Maybe your right for sure about the overal statistics, but i could not tell currently wich zerg is best vs Protoss. | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:46 cyclone25 wrote: How about MLG? NesTea lost to Naniwa and Haypro, DRG had much better results. But you obviously don't follow SC2, no need to argue with you. DRG lost to Naniwa at MLG as well.. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:46 shabby wrote: Because he never uses punctuation, so no one understands him anyway.  sadly he makes more sense when he's posting drunk. | ||
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
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