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On January 30 2012 22:22 138Raptor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:18 Guidji wrote:
Maybe i should make jokes on how you surrendered the northern part of your island to the brit to see if I can touch the limits of your humour. Evoking such a dark episode of time is not funny period.
Go ahead, humour us! But by the sounds of it, you couldn't tell a joke if it slapped you in your snobby french-face. lol lol!
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On January 30 2012 22:28 Guidji wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:26 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:21 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:15 Tarotis wrote:On January 30 2012 22:13 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:01 MrBitter wrote:On January 30 2012 21:59 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 21:09 leo23 wrote:On January 30 2012 19:26 Agathon wrote:On January 30 2012 19:20 endy wrote: [quote]
Out of topic, but how are medicine and writing a foreign language even remotely related ?
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What did the commentator say ?! :O
"stephano the french pride - french doing what the french do best and surrender, keeping the record in surrendering" Truly disgusting. I will refrain from watching ONOG events. ONOG has nothing to do with what bitter said, what I will do is refrain from watching everything with Bitter involved. And should ONOG not hire him again, I see no problem looking at their tournament ! Makes me sad to read stuff like this, but it's also the best way to get your point across. Actually, I did not look at the stream, being french and the events happening too late. I think insulting a whole nation citizens is far worse and way more immature than forfeiting a video game. But there are comments pointing that you did not say those words so maybe i will give you the benefit of doubt. My point was mainly that the caster who said such words should not go unpunished but that an event is not responsible for the behaviour of a stupid person ! Like someone else said before: If you cant take jokes, leave the internet. I don't think that comparing all germans to nazis is a funny joke, should i quit being on the internet? It's absolutely the same thing.. oh wait it's not Even if my grandpa was killed by the nazis during the episode tumba was referring to?
I'm not going to argue with someone that has zero sense of humor whatsoever. Just for the record, I'm half french and half greek. Guess what? Tumba's joke did not offend me at all since I've heard it so many times. I'm also half greek as i said. Go ahead and make fun of me, you will not be the first one and I still won't be offended
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On January 30 2012 22:33 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:28 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:26 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:21 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:15 Tarotis wrote:On January 30 2012 22:13 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:01 MrBitter wrote:On January 30 2012 21:59 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 21:09 leo23 wrote:On January 30 2012 19:26 Agathon wrote: [quote]
"stephano the french pride - french doing what the french do best and surrender, keeping the record in surrendering" Truly disgusting. I will refrain from watching ONOG events. ONOG has nothing to do with what bitter said, what I will do is refrain from watching everything with Bitter involved. And should ONOG not hire him again, I see no problem looking at their tournament ! Makes me sad to read stuff like this, but it's also the best way to get your point across. Actually, I did not look at the stream, being french and the events happening too late. I think insulting a whole nation citizens is far worse and way more immature than forfeiting a video game. But there are comments pointing that you did not say those words so maybe i will give you the benefit of doubt. My point was mainly that the caster who said such words should not go unpunished but that an event is not responsible for the behaviour of a stupid person ! Like someone else said before: If you cant take jokes, leave the internet. I don't think that comparing all germans to nazis is a funny joke, should i quit being on the internet? It's absolutely the same thing.. oh wait it's not Even if my grandpa was killed by the nazis during the episode tumba was referring to? I'm not going to argue with someone that has zero sense of humor whatsoever. Just for the record, I'm half french and half greek. Guess what? Tumba's joke did not offend me at all since I've heard it so many times. I'm also half greek as i said. Go ahead and make fun of me, you will not be the first one and I still won't be offended
You 'll understand at some point in your life I guess...
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On January 30 2012 22:35 Guidji wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:33 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:28 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:26 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:21 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:15 Tarotis wrote:On January 30 2012 22:13 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:01 MrBitter wrote:On January 30 2012 21:59 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 21:09 leo23 wrote: [quote] Truly disgusting. I will refrain from watching ONOG events. ONOG has nothing to do with what bitter said, what I will do is refrain from watching everything with Bitter involved. And should ONOG not hire him again, I see no problem looking at their tournament ! Makes me sad to read stuff like this, but it's also the best way to get your point across. Actually, I did not look at the stream, being french and the events happening too late. I think insulting a whole nation citizens is far worse and way more immature than forfeiting a video game. But there are comments pointing that you did not say those words so maybe i will give you the benefit of doubt. My point was mainly that the caster who said such words should not go unpunished but that an event is not responsible for the behaviour of a stupid person ! Like someone else said before: If you cant take jokes, leave the internet. I don't think that comparing all germans to nazis is a funny joke, should i quit being on the internet? It's absolutely the same thing.. oh wait it's not Even if my grandpa was killed by the nazis during the episode tumba was referring to? I'm not going to argue with someone that has zero sense of humor whatsoever. Just for the record, I'm half french and half greek. Guess what? Tumba's joke did not offend me at all since I've heard it so many times. I'm also half greek as i said. Go ahead and make fun of me, you will not be the first one and I still won't be offended You 'll understand at some point in your life I guess...
Yes, wise old man...
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In terms of the Stephano situation, it is sad to see so much hate towards casters and a tournament who were just trying their best to create content out of a bad situation. They could have just played the 3rd place match and called it a night, but instead they stuck it out for another five games to create content for the viewers, and then get it all thrown in their faces.
Sure it might not have been the right decision but I think the amount of hate is over the top.
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On January 30 2012 22:33 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:28 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:26 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:21 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:15 Tarotis wrote:On January 30 2012 22:13 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:01 MrBitter wrote:On January 30 2012 21:59 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 21:09 leo23 wrote:On January 30 2012 19:26 Agathon wrote: [quote]
"stephano the french pride - french doing what the french do best and surrender, keeping the record in surrendering" Truly disgusting. I will refrain from watching ONOG events. ONOG has nothing to do with what bitter said, what I will do is refrain from watching everything with Bitter involved. And should ONOG not hire him again, I see no problem looking at their tournament ! Makes me sad to read stuff like this, but it's also the best way to get your point across. Actually, I did not look at the stream, being french and the events happening too late. I think insulting a whole nation citizens is far worse and way more immature than forfeiting a video game. But there are comments pointing that you did not say those words so maybe i will give you the benefit of doubt. My point was mainly that the caster who said such words should not go unpunished but that an event is not responsible for the behaviour of a stupid person ! Like someone else said before: If you cant take jokes, leave the internet. I don't think that comparing all germans to nazis is a funny joke, should i quit being on the internet? It's absolutely the same thing.. oh wait it's not Even if my grandpa was killed by the nazis during the episode tumba was referring to? I'm not going to argue with someone that has zero sense of humor whatsoever. Just for the record, I'm half french and half greek. Guess what? Tumba's joke did not offend me at all since I've heard it so many times. I'm also half greek as i said. Go ahead and make fun of me, you will not be the first one and I still won't be offended
Now that's nothing strong of an argument here?
"I don't care, so you shouldn't, too?"
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On January 30 2012 22:05 IMStyle wrote: it is sad that esports isn't taken seriously by the players. This is the only "professional" sport where someone forfeits a finals match. This obviously causes lower ratings, less viewers, less money..... Its sad that fans don't take it seriously either. Keep supporting stephano and those who openly throw away games in televised matchup.. See where this sport goes.
Cincinnati masters this season, Djokovic retires during the final with a stadium full of paying fans sitting watching. He could have stood there and let his opponent serve aces past him, while serving underarm himself and finish the match, but that would have been a total waste of everyones time. Why are people always trying to trash e-sports by making false comparisons?
As for this issue I think having Illusion and Stephano split the second/third place money evenly between them would have been the fairest outcome, but the organisers could hardly be blamed for coming up with a quick solution to make sure the fans were entertained, and with Stephano apparently ok to drop to fourth to make up for the inconvenience he's caused the tournament surely that should be the end of it?
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On January 30 2012 22:41 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:33 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:28 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:26 Linwelin wrote:On January 30 2012 22:21 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:15 Tarotis wrote:On January 30 2012 22:13 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 22:01 MrBitter wrote:On January 30 2012 21:59 Guidji wrote:On January 30 2012 21:09 leo23 wrote: [quote] Truly disgusting. I will refrain from watching ONOG events. ONOG has nothing to do with what bitter said, what I will do is refrain from watching everything with Bitter involved. And should ONOG not hire him again, I see no problem looking at their tournament ! Makes me sad to read stuff like this, but it's also the best way to get your point across. Actually, I did not look at the stream, being french and the events happening too late. I think insulting a whole nation citizens is far worse and way more immature than forfeiting a video game. But there are comments pointing that you did not say those words so maybe i will give you the benefit of doubt. My point was mainly that the caster who said such words should not go unpunished but that an event is not responsible for the behaviour of a stupid person ! Like someone else said before: If you cant take jokes, leave the internet. I don't think that comparing all germans to nazis is a funny joke, should i quit being on the internet? It's absolutely the same thing.. oh wait it's not Even if my grandpa was killed by the nazis during the episode tumba was referring to? I'm not going to argue with someone that has zero sense of humor whatsoever. Just for the record, I'm half french and half greek. Guess what? Tumba's joke did not offend me at all since I've heard it so many times. I'm also half greek as i said. Go ahead and make fun of me, you will not be the first one and I still won't be offended Now that's nothing strong of an argument here? "I don't care, so you shouldn't, too?"
If you would read my previous posts, that wasn't my argument. I just mentioned the "i don't care, so you shouldn't"
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THX Mr Bitter and all french haters.
Always a pleasure to be insulted when i watch a stream.
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Here's some icebreakers for you guys:
How do you get a French waiters attention in a busy restaurant?
Start ordering in German.
Another good one:
What is the first thing the French teach their kids at school?
How to say "We Surrender" in German!
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On January 30 2012 22:43 edjayz wrote: THX Mr Bitter and all french haters.
Always a pleasure to be insulted when i watch a stream. If you troll, please troll at least the right person, it was Tumba who made the joke
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@138Raptor the first www we rape you
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On January 30 2012 22:41 Purple Haze wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:05 IMStyle wrote: it is sad that esports isn't taken seriously by the players. This is the only "professional" sport where someone forfeits a finals match. This obviously causes lower ratings, less viewers, less money..... Its sad that fans don't take it seriously either. Keep supporting stephano and those who openly throw away games in televised matchup.. See where this sport goes. Cincinnati masters this season, Djokovic retires during the final with a stadium full of paying fans sitting watching. He could have stood there and let his opponent serve aces past him, while serving underarm himself and finish the match, but that would have been a total waste of everyones time. Why are people always trying to trash e-sports by making false comparisons? As for this issue I think having Illusion and Stephano split the second/third place money evenly between them would have been the fairest outcome, but the organisers could hardly be blamed for coming up with a quick solution to make sure the fans were entertained, and with Stephano apparently ok to drop to fourth to make up for the inconvenience he's caused the tournament surely that should be the end of it? Eh Djokovic quit because of his shoulder injury...
“I was quite exhausted playing many matches, but the exhaustion is not the reason. I just could not serve."
Who are the one making false comparisons again?
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I don't really get why this is creating so much fuzz, Stephano signed up/agreed to play in this tournament knowing very well when he'd have to play. ONOG already allowed him to play his game vs illusion later, him just going "let me play on a totally different day or I'm outta this" pretty much forces ONOG to put him 4th, cause it would have been unfair for catz and especially illusion if stephano would just getting 2nd place by forfeiting. I gained a lot of repect for onog (which I didn't even know of before this event) by making such a strong decision vs such a popular player. ONOG fighting!
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I'm not even German!
Why does Nike like the French Army? Because, in war time, they are the biggest buyers of running shoes.
What's the difference between a Frenchman and a trampoline? You take off your shoes before you jump on the trampoline.
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On January 30 2012 22:46 edjayz wrote:@138Raptor the first www we rape you 
lol
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On January 30 2012 22:46 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 22:41 Purple Haze wrote:On January 30 2012 22:05 IMStyle wrote: it is sad that esports isn't taken seriously by the players. This is the only "professional" sport where someone forfeits a finals match. This obviously causes lower ratings, less viewers, less money..... Its sad that fans don't take it seriously either. Keep supporting stephano and those who openly throw away games in televised matchup.. See where this sport goes. Cincinnati masters this season, Djokovic retires during the final with a stadium full of paying fans sitting watching. He could have stood there and let his opponent serve aces past him, while serving underarm himself and finish the match, but that would have been a total waste of everyones time. Why are people always trying to trash e-sports by making false comparisons? As for this issue I think having Illusion and Stephano split the second/third place money evenly between them would have been the fairest outcome, but the organisers could hardly be blamed for coming up with a quick solution to make sure the fans were entertained, and with Stephano apparently ok to drop to fourth to make up for the inconvenience he's caused the tournament surely that should be the end of it? Eh Djokovic quit because of his shoulder injury... Show nested quote +“I was quite exhausted playing many matches, but the exhaustion is not the reason. I just could not serve." Who are the one making false comparisons again?
He still withdrew from a finals match, something that apparently never happens in other sports. As I said, Djokovic could have served underarm, played left handed, finished the match somehow but it would have been pointless. Stephano felt he was unable to play, so those matches would have also been pointless, do you think he'd have given up a chance to win $1500 in a single series otherwise?
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@Caryc
And the second 50 years because of frustration. normal
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Now I've heard everything. The right to forfeit?! Next time you don't feel like going to school, or to a business meeting or finishing a deadline on a project, claim the right to forfeit. Then, go back the next day and see how welcome you are (hint, the result is proportional to how many people it affected). And in sports its made much worse because tournament organizers rely on players to compete for a tournament to take place and, worse, because forfeiting matches is closely connected to match-fixing, and we should all know how detrimental that can be to a sport both from Broodwar and from other sports like sumo. So, no, there isn't a right to forfeit. There are cases when a forfeit is inevitable (injuries, flights cancelled) but random forfeits should not be accepted as a norm by this community. And the result of a forfeit should always be the same, it's realistically the same as never attending the tournament. I'm surprised that a forfeit can make you any amount of money. I expect in the future there to be hefty fines in place to guarantee that players never forfeit.
P.S. And no, it would not be ok to just drone rush/6 pool all those games. That also cheats the organizers and fans out of real games.
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