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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3581
On January 10 2012 22:26 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:
I thought todays games were slightly underwhelming given the stacked lineup. the TvZ's were great but Supernova vs MC, ForGG vs MC and Leenock vs MC were quite poor series.

it's what happens when MC is playing. Very prone to all inning and short games.


Looks like someone's hating on kratoss...
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
nomatch353
Profile Joined January 2011
69 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3582
On January 10 2012 22:22 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:16 jkos86 wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:15 TheHova wrote:
Nobody uses FF better than MC. Great execution of the 7gate

this indeed


wasn't a great execution at all, he was super late. The window for leenock to have prepared better was huge, leenock just screwed up bigtime by not preparing properly.
Such a 7 gate attack should really come sooner with +1 attack only, +1 armor is utterly useless against roaches and mc should have had way less zealots. That was leenock's game to lose and he did so, a simple rush to burrow while delaying the push would have easily won him the game, it's really easy to abuse burrow against almost pure zealot/sentry like MC had.
Leenock played awful the entire series against MC as if he is somehow afraid of playing a proper game against protoss.



I have never seen a zerg having burrow at 8.30
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3583
GSL could have punish him financially,


Are you serious? There would have been a HUGE shitstorm if GSL fined him... Plus how would they even enforce a fine on him since I don't think things work like NBA, NFL where they can fine the players.
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3584
This thread went quickly from "hail the new best zerg/player of all time, ever" to a discussion about how "leenock is overrated"/"zerg is broken".

You can tell competitive gaming is getting there when the hyperbole around it perfectly mirrors that of athletic sports.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3585
On January 10 2012 22:29 bigbeau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:27 vndods wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:25 bigbeau wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:21 Biane wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:20 Ryncol wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:19 bigbeau wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:17 AnTiX wrote:
On January 10 2012 10:09 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 10 2012 09:39 AnTiX wrote:
[image loading]


If you seriously boycott the GSL for the Naniwa incident, you're an idiot cause he has himself admitted his fault and decided to not participate in this season by choice...


So for the record, I am not a Hardcore Naniwa fan. I respect him that's all.

I am not boycotting the all season of GSL just the first one. I am currently aware that Naniwa admitted his fault. I find myself his comportment childish but comprehensible. GSL could have punish him financially, because he embarrassed them on TV and show a lack of respect. But their decision to punish him in a sport manner is just wrong. By doing that I see a message "Hey we do what we want. This is our tournament, so behave yourself". I can't approve that.

This is not their tournament, this is our. Like Naniwa, GomTV owe us some respect. With their arbitrarily decision to revoke code S spot to Naniwa, without him breaking any rules, they disrespect the sport. We don't watch GSL because it's GSL. We watch GSL, because it's a sport competition with the best player. With their decision, they compromise the competition. I can't approve that.

By boycotting the first GSL of 2012 (and I hope I am not the only one), I remind GomTV they have to behave themselves. They have to respect the competition, it's not their tournament, it's our.


Yep. I am too, and for the same reason. I can't support a league that arbitrarily bans players for not even breaking an actual rule.


Naniwa wasn't banned, he could've qualified through Code A if he wanted to.


We don't need any more of these discussions but people saying that Naniwa was 'banned' just shows how ignorant of the whole situation they are.


I didn't mean banned like kicked out, but if you believe that they didn't rob him of his EARNED code S seed just because they fed some bullshit about how they hadn't chosen the seeds and the way they were going to give code S seeds magically changed for 2012 when MLG didnt even know about it yet... then idk what to tell you besides read between the lines. Also keeping up with the results doesn't support them so idc

that's nice, you're the one missing out anyways


From the amount of whining about cheese, it doesn't seem like it ;p. Although that's every tournament so who knows haha

lol, you've missed much already my friend. and cheese is mostly for MC games, which is expected.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3586
I feel bad about fin

People have been hyping him up way too much
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3587
On January 10 2012 22:27 Tulkas25 wrote:
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On January 10 2012 22:25 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:22 Tulkas25 wrote:
anyone as scared as i am for IMVP's TvZ for tommorow?? I mean one of the best Tvzers already in the world having to practice this single matchup for his group?Considering that the other players have to focus heavily on zvz which is already a bit random no matter how much u practice.Sorry if this is a bit off topic but it just struck me.


Scared? IMMvp's TvZ is so solid that he will still own even without practising a whole week for it. Completely confident that Mvp will come first in the group, given that he had 3 weeks to practise against Zergs.



Yeah by scared i mean that he will probably be terrifying for his opponents..I dont think that they will have a chance tommorow


Yeah, but Mvp's dominance is better for Idra since he can focus on ZvZ to make it out of the group (i.e 2nd place) whether he wins or loses against NesTea.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#3588
On January 10 2012 22:27 Tulkas25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:25 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:22 Tulkas25 wrote:
anyone as scared as i am for IMVP's TvZ for tommorow?? I mean one of the best Tvzers already in the world having to practice this single matchup for his group?Considering that the other players have to focus heavily on zvz which is already a bit random no matter how much u practice.Sorry if this is a bit off topic but it just struck me.


Scared? IMMvp's TvZ is so solid that he will still own even without practising a whole week for it. Completely confident that Mvp will come first in the group, given that he had 3 weeks to practise against Zergs.



Yeah by scared i mean that he will probably be terrifying for his opponents..I dont think that they will have a chance tommorow


The last couple times I saw MVP play his wrists seem to really be hurting him. It wouldn't surprise me at all if his opponents stood a chance tomorrow or even beat him.
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3589
On January 10 2012 22:29 weiliem wrote:
Lucky's gonna advance like Supernova today, stomping TLers by surprise.... start voting lucky....

My Liquibet says MVP and Lucky.
Lucky is super underrated, but we will see that tomorrow
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3590
On January 10 2012 22:30 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:26 vndods wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:24 Seraphone wrote:
I thought todays games were slightly underwhelming given the stacked lineup. the TvZ's were great but Supernova vs MC, ForGG vs MC and Leenock vs MC were quite poor series.

it's what happens when MC is playing. Very prone to all inning and short games.


Looks like someone's hating on kratoss...

do you deny this? o.O
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:32:12
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3591
On January 10 2012 22:27 rushian wrote:
Leenock has a pretty easy Code A bracket, July or Jjun, followed by Monster, Seed or Boxer


Oh, that's not bad at all. Game against seed would be interesting though.

ForGG gets cOre first round which will be interesting, don't think cOre is anything special but he might cause a few problems and I'm really not impressed by ForGG's TvP. Match with the winner of Losira vs TheStC in r2 would be crazy though.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:31:53
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3592
On January 10 2012 22:30 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
GSL could have punish him financially,


Are you serious? There would have been a HUGE shitstorm if GSL fined him... Plus how would they even enforce a fine on him since I don't think things work like NBA, NFL where they can fine the players.


I assume he meant that by punishing him financially, Gom just wouldn't give Naniwa the prize for his Blizzard Cup placing, since it 'didn't matter to him' when he decided to throw the game.
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3593
On January 10 2012 22:19 Deadlocked wrote:
feel bad for leenock. I dont know how he could of held that. FF so powerful early game

Quit w/ the whine. Borrow roaches is a useful skill toi have. Spine crawlers is a useful skill toi have.
MC for president
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3594
Why are people still ranting on that Naniwa issue?Go rant on some other threads.
The issue is already over man.Leave it be -.-
Play your best
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#3595
On January 10 2012 22:27 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:22 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:13 MorroW wrote:
tt1 u see what i talked about at nasl? this is the stuff you should do :p


cus zergs are so muta hungry these days, they dont expect p's to do newbie gate unit allins cus theyre so easy to hold so they dont get burrow and such

these type of builds are so easy to defend if scouted, its up to the defender to react and counter it accordingly and i dont like to depend on wat my opponent is doing, i would rather control my own fayth


Do you really think Leenock had time to get the burrow upgrade? lol ...

Seriously tell us how Leenock could have defended that? He got roaches/crawlers as soon as he saw the all in and it wasn't even close ...
Artosis also said that MC's all in won't work.


Lings didnt have speed. Leenock let MC plant several pylons close to his 3rd. He took forever to make Spine Crawlers.


He didn't even got (or needed) lings, at least not many. How would they help vs mass zealots/sentry?

From what you're saying, Leenock should have stopped at 35 drones, get a lot of early roaches to prevent the pylons and also crawlers? All that while not knowing if MC will all in.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
January 10 2012 13:32 GMT
#3596
so whys this boycotter here.. you fucking cheater looking at live report thats not a real boycott
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 10 2012 13:32 GMT
#3597
Well, noone could have expect MC to do so well less than 24h after going back in Korea. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
January 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#3598
On January 10 2012 22:23 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:20 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:13 MorroW wrote:
tt1 u see what i talked about at nasl? this is the stuff you should do :p


cus zergs are so muta hungry these days, they dont expect p's to do newbie gate unit allins cus theyre so easy to hold so they dont get burrow and such

these type of builds are so easy to defend if scouted, its up to the defender to react and counter it accordingly and i dont like to depend on wat my opponent is doing, i would rather control my own fayth

so u would rather choose the fate to die to mutalisks in midgame rather than stomping face with awesome 2base protoss playstyles? :D


i wanted to reply to this but every post i wrote came off as being a sick whine so i decided not to write anything LOL
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
January 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#3599
On January 10 2012 22:30 nomatch353 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:22 Markwerf wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:16 jkos86 wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:15 TheHova wrote:
Nobody uses FF better than MC. Great execution of the 7gate

this indeed


wasn't a great execution at all, he was super late. The window for leenock to have prepared better was huge, leenock just screwed up bigtime by not preparing properly.
Such a 7 gate attack should really come sooner with +1 attack only, +1 armor is utterly useless against roaches and mc should have had way less zealots. That was leenock's game to lose and he did so, a simple rush to burrow while delaying the push would have easily won him the game, it's really easy to abuse burrow against almost pure zealot/sentry like MC had.
Leenock played awful the entire series against MC as if he is somehow afraid of playing a proper game against protoss.



I have never seen a zerg having burrow at 8.30


Uh that push more came at like 10:00. +1 attack only push tends to be around 8:00 if it's just 4 gates, a 6 gate tends to hit around 9:00 and this 7 gate +1+1 was at least 10:00 probably 11:00
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:37:41
January 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#3600
On January 10 2012 22:17 AnTiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 10:09 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 10 2012 09:39 AnTiX wrote:
[image loading]


If you seriously boycott the GSL for the Naniwa incident, you're an idiot cause he has himself admitted his fault and decided to not participate in this season by choice...


So for the record, I am not a Hardcore Naniwa fan. I respect him that's all.

I am not boycotting the all season of GSL just the first one. I am currently aware that Naniwa admitted his fault. I find myself his comportment childish but comprehensible. GSL could have punish him financially, because he embarrassed them on TV and show a lack of respect. But their decision to punish him in a sport manner is just wrong. By doing that I see a message "Hey we do what we want. This is our tournament, so behave yourself". I can't approve that.

This is not their tournament, this is our. Like Naniwa, GomTV owe us some respect. With their arbitrarily decision to revoke code S spot to Naniwa, without him breaking any rules, they disrespect the sport. We don't watch GSL because it's GSL. We watch GSL, because it's a sport competition with the best player. With their decision, they compromise the competition. I can't approve that.

By boycotting the first GSL of 2012 (and I hope I am not the only one), I remind GomTV they have to behave themselves. They have to respect the competition, it's not their tournament, it's our.

You wouldn't be French if you didn't complain about something eh?

Let's overthrow those GomTV bourgeois! Viva la Révolution!

Go beat the fucking dead horse elsewhere fool.
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