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On January 08 2012 03:16 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:14 Jono7272 wrote:
HerO sporting a GB jacket.. does that mean I can claim him as an honorary brit?! Hero Bling and Demuslim! Dream team 
Exactly! :D
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On January 08 2012 03:18 Poisonblack wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:15 Shox85 wrote:
Who complains about MC vs. MKP just don't understand the Home Story Cup^^ indeed 
QFT
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On January 08 2012 03:18 Titorelli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:15 Fyzar wrote:
@Khaldor
Thomas Kilian
Going to cast Nerchio vs. Hero together with HasuObs later on. Not sure about the exact time and stream though...
Khaldor is there xd? What the fuck ;p. Yeah lol wtf?! Isnt he supposed to be in Korea??
He came home for the holidays, he's going back next week iirc
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On January 08 2012 03:16 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:15 krews wrote:On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
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Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent. a lot of people were entertained by the mkp vs mc games.. just because you weren't doesnt mean everyone wasn't But thye're job isn't to entertain you...>_> Players shouldn't be punished because they don't entertain the crowd.
you said no one wants to waste time seeing that, now you make a new argument. also, if there is no crowd there is no tourney..
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Grubby will advance if he beats Sound I think. He'll have the same mapscore and overall score if he beats him 2-1, and better mapscore if he beats him 2-0.
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HerO is so aggressive with just 1 stalker...
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On January 08 2012 03:12 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:[quote] The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent. I was entertained. Those two worked for the money.
The differences between the two situations are really obvious. MC and MKP decided to put on a show for the fans because the game didn't matter, whereas Naniwa decided not to play.
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They're job isn't to entertain you. They're competing in a tournament to win money. They're job is to win. Once that objective is achieve or unreachable, they gain nothing from playing additional games.
Have you been to the real world? Where do you think the money comes from? Why do you think people sponsor tournaments? Sure, players play to win but entertainment is part of it. Notice that Stephano also played Socke eventhough they were 0-2. When you join a tournament, you have an obligation to follow and rules and not just do things because you feel like it.
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On January 08 2012 03:19 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO is so aggressive with just 1 stalker...
he knows that theres probably a 1/1/1 in there, and marines aren't good vs stalkers )
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Two opportunities for Grubby to advance:
Grubby wins vs Sound, DIMAGA loses to Darkforce, Grubby advances in 2nd place 2-1. The other way is Grubby 2-0 over Sound, DIMAGA wins, Grubby advances in 2nd place via tiebreaker over Sound, as DIMAGA finishes first via map score.
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On January 08 2012 03:19 OKMarius wrote:
Grubby will advance if he beats Sound I think. He'll have the same mapscore and overall score if he beats him 2-1, and better mapscore if he beats him 2-0.
Yeah, you're correct afaik.
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On January 08 2012 03:16 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:15 krews wrote:On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
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Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent. a lot of people were entertained by the mkp vs mc games.. just because you weren't doesnt mean everyone wasn't But thye're job isn't to entertain you...>_> Players shouldn't be punished because they don't entertain the crowd.
Yes it is. Better entertaiment -> more viewers -> more money from streaming and sponsors
and in most of the sports top athletes get more from sponsorships than the actual tournaments/salaries.
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On January 08 2012 03:16 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:15 krews wrote:On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
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Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent. a lot of people were entertained by the mkp vs mc games.. just because you weren't doesnt mean everyone wasn't But thye're job isn't to entertain you...>_> Players shouldn't be punished because they don't entertain the crowd. To a certain extend for sure their job is to entertain the crowd.
When a tournement invites a player the idea of the tourney's runner is to get it's investors happy.
And this includes to have the public viewer happy.
Less happy viewers means less happy advertisers and less income in the end.
You point might be that the player is payed by it's team.
But as soon as there is tournament environment, this is no more true.
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seriously ppl shld just get over the naniwa fiasco
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On January 08 2012 03:20 Nosforit wrote:
Two opportunities for Grubby to advance:
Grubby wins vs Sound, DIMAGA loses to Darkforce, Grubby advances in 2nd place 2-1. The other way is Grubby 2-0 over Sound, DIMAGA wins, Grubby advances in 2nd place via tiebreaker over Sound, as DIMAGA finishes first via map score.
How does this happen xd? If Dima loses he's 1-2, with Grubby & Sound @ 2-1, and because Grubby won he'll be n1.
I think ;p.
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Damn Namma building a raven vs My love for Hero
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On January 08 2012 03:21 deathzz wrote:
seriously ppl shld just get over the naniwa fiasco
the asshole who brought up the issue on this thread should get banned...
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On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent.
most retarded comment. Fake game? Anyone on ladder who macro up to 200/200 must be playing fake game. Get a real life.
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On January 08 2012 03:20 aviator116 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:19 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO is so aggressive with just 1 stalker... he knows that theres probably a 1/1/1 in there, and marines aren't good vs stalkers )
so what do you call this now? 1/1/1 on 2 base?
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Naniwa should take a lesson from Coca and just not comment on such things at all.
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