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Yea, I'm not suggesting that it be open to anyone at all, like NASL has done, but something along the lines of what they advertised in their original post - i.e., open to actually real teams with grandmaster/high masters level players. That would provide good games, not complete stops (or any more of a stomp than NSHS vs some of the teams there), and would give more of a chance to lesser known teams.
Another concern, which has been said, is that the selection process seems very random. No offense to any of the teams, but NrG (who hasn't competed in anything in a while), ANZAC, CN, etc seem like really odd choices.
Lastly, Perhaps maybe the biggest concern in my eyes, is letting teams repeat participation in the 2nd qualifier. This means that there aren't even going to be many new teams in the 2nd one at all, meaning that there are probably going to be a total of 18 teams period through 2 qualifiers. Seems like they already got their chance and should move on. Maybe the 2 semifinalists who didn't advance should get in, but I don't know about more than that.
Thanks to IPL for addressing the concerns though!
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United States2300 Posts
"NrG has Luckyfool."
AHAHAHAHA
that made me lol, im not going to lie
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Seems like you just arbitrarily chose teams based on name value.
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On January 07 2012 22:14 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 16:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:On January 07 2012 15:32 Bagration wrote:On January 07 2012 15:09 bnYToraBora wrote:
I agree that the qualification selection process seems a bit ridiculous. It's essentially just an invite tournament disguised as semi-open qualifiers. And then letting each team play in the 2nd qualifier if they already played in the first? Better to just call it an invite tournament, don't see the point in trying to mask it as something else. It would be nice to have any team with 5 players to just sign up, but there are time constraints I believe. For the IPL 3 qualifiers, there was a $20 entry fee to weed out people who would not take the games seriously. However, that was Bo3. This qualifier will be Bo9. From watching the Team Arena, a Bo9 between most teams could last 2 to 3 hours. With the sheer magnitude of matches, letting just any team with 5 players participate will not be feasible. It is basically a semi-open qualifier, in the sense that there is a barrier for unknown teams. It's a pity, but letting any team just sign up would take too much time. The problem I have, is that the selection criteria seems VERY random. You have CyberNation, who to be honest, has nobody other than SarenS (who hasn't shown much in the past months) You have Dream Team Gaming who, while I love JM and what he's doing, is essentially a lesser developed version of my team. You have ANZAC who I literally can't find a shred of information about (though from what I gather it's an Aussie/NZ team) You have LighT who is the newest team on the block (well, it's essentially KiwiClones, so that's pretty justified) NrG has Luckyfool. mTw, NSHoSeo, Incredible Miracle, ZeNEX, x6, It'sGosu, Infinity Seven and ROX.KIS and eSahara all speak for themselves. Out of those teams you mentioned i would put ANZAC and LighT as the two clear strongest with ANZAC slightly ahead perhaps.....also forgive my lack of knowledge but what team do you run and who are the players??
I don't have any problem with LighT being chosen, as Kiwiclones was a very strong team.
ANZAC, however, I literally cannot find any information on them whatsoever.
Nothing comes up no matter where I look, except that the name is a common acronym for Aussie/NewZealander Communities.
For the record, I work with Team Clash.
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On January 08 2012 04:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 22:14 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:On January 07 2012 16:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:On January 07 2012 15:32 Bagration wrote:On January 07 2012 15:09 bnYToraBora wrote:
I agree that the qualification selection process seems a bit ridiculous. It's essentially just an invite tournament disguised as semi-open qualifiers. And then letting each team play in the 2nd qualifier if they already played in the first? Better to just call it an invite tournament, don't see the point in trying to mask it as something else. It would be nice to have any team with 5 players to just sign up, but there are time constraints I believe. For the IPL 3 qualifiers, there was a $20 entry fee to weed out people who would not take the games seriously. However, that was Bo3. This qualifier will be Bo9. From watching the Team Arena, a Bo9 between most teams could last 2 to 3 hours. With the sheer magnitude of matches, letting just any team with 5 players participate will not be feasible. It is basically a semi-open qualifier, in the sense that there is a barrier for unknown teams. It's a pity, but letting any team just sign up would take too much time. The problem I have, is that the selection criteria seems VERY random. You have CyberNation, who to be honest, has nobody other than SarenS (who hasn't shown much in the past months) You have Dream Team Gaming who, while I love JM and what he's doing, is essentially a lesser developed version of my team. You have ANZAC who I literally can't find a shred of information about (though from what I gather it's an Aussie/NZ team) You have LighT who is the newest team on the block (well, it's essentially KiwiClones, so that's pretty justified) NrG has Luckyfool. mTw, NSHoSeo, Incredible Miracle, ZeNEX, x6, It'sGosu, Infinity Seven and ROX.KIS and eSahara all speak for themselves. Out of those teams you mentioned i would put ANZAC and LighT as the two clear strongest with ANZAC slightly ahead perhaps.....also forgive my lack of knowledge but what team do you run and who are the players?? I don't have any problem with LighT being chosen, as Kiwiclones was a very strong team. ANZAC, however, I literally cannot find any information on them whatsoever. Nothing comes up no matter where I look, except that the name is a common acronym for Aussie/NewZealander Communities. For the record, I work with Team Clash.
I don't have the exact roster in front of me, but ANZAC is the SEA Dream Team including Moonglade, Targa, YoonYJ, JazBas, iaguz, and basically all of the best players from the SEA server. To keep them out would basically snub an entire region, and they have some great players.
Edit: Added imba.FXO, as they were accidentally left off of the accepted teams for the qualifier. My mistake!
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On January 08 2012 08:34 Joshy.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 04:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:On January 07 2012 22:14 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:On January 07 2012 16:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:On January 07 2012 15:32 Bagration wrote:On January 07 2012 15:09 bnYToraBora wrote:
I agree that the qualification selection process seems a bit ridiculous. It's essentially just an invite tournament disguised as semi-open qualifiers. And then letting each team play in the 2nd qualifier if they already played in the first? Better to just call it an invite tournament, don't see the point in trying to mask it as something else. It would be nice to have any team with 5 players to just sign up, but there are time constraints I believe. For the IPL 3 qualifiers, there was a $20 entry fee to weed out people who would not take the games seriously. However, that was Bo3. This qualifier will be Bo9. From watching the Team Arena, a Bo9 between most teams could last 2 to 3 hours. With the sheer magnitude of matches, letting just any team with 5 players participate will not be feasible. It is basically a semi-open qualifier, in the sense that there is a barrier for unknown teams. It's a pity, but letting any team just sign up would take too much time. The problem I have, is that the selection criteria seems VERY random. You have CyberNation, who to be honest, has nobody other than SarenS (who hasn't shown much in the past months) You have Dream Team Gaming who, while I love JM and what he's doing, is essentially a lesser developed version of my team. You have ANZAC who I literally can't find a shred of information about (though from what I gather it's an Aussie/NZ team) You have LighT who is the newest team on the block (well, it's essentially KiwiClones, so that's pretty justified) NrG has Luckyfool. mTw, NSHoSeo, Incredible Miracle, ZeNEX, x6, It'sGosu, Infinity Seven and ROX.KIS and eSahara all speak for themselves. Out of those teams you mentioned i would put ANZAC and LighT as the two clear strongest with ANZAC slightly ahead perhaps.....also forgive my lack of knowledge but what team do you run and who are the players?? I don't have any problem with LighT being chosen, as Kiwiclones was a very strong team. ANZAC, however, I literally cannot find any information on them whatsoever. Nothing comes up no matter where I look, except that the name is a common acronym for Aussie/NewZealander Communities. For the record, I work with Team Clash. I don't have the exact roster in front of me, but ANZAC is the SEA Dream Team including Moonglade, Targa, YoonYJ, JazBas, iaguz, and basically all of the best players from the SEA server. To keep them out would basically snub an entire region, and they have some great players. Edit: Added imba.FXO, as they were accidentally left off of the accepted teams for the qualifier. My mistake!
I wasn't aware they had all come together like that, as far as I knew iaguz and YoonYJ are on aLt and Targa is on infi right?
Anyway, it makes a lot more sense now, but I just couldn't find anything even close to a roster, thanks for the info.
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On January 07 2012 16:27 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Hoping for It's GoSu to make a good showing. Realistically, no one has a chance against IM or NSHoSeo, though.
Our guys have been training super hard, and we by no means can look past Light, but we are really working to make some upsets happen this qualifier.
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as long as there is turnover for the second qualifier i'll be happy. its fine including perhaps the semifinalists/teams that did well vs koreans but after that you should give some other people a chance.
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On January 08 2012 15:02 RuMCaKe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 16:27 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Hoping for It's GoSu to make a good showing. Realistically, no one has a chance against IM or NSHoSeo, though. Our guys have been training super hard, and we by no means can look past Light, but we are really working to make some upsets happen this qualifier.
how hard can they be training if your guys lost to iP.
j/k  haha good luck
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On January 08 2012 03:37 SacredSystem wrote:
"NrG has Luckyfool."
AHAHAHAHA
that made me lol, im not going to lie
don't forget we also have mihai, and mrding 
Excited for this, why did we have to vs IM round 1 though...
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On January 08 2012 15:47 KoDo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 15:02 RuMCaKe wrote:On January 07 2012 16:27 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Hoping for It's GoSu to make a good showing. Realistically, no one has a chance against IM or NSHoSeo, though. Our guys have been training super hard, and we by no means can look past Light, but we are really working to make some upsets happen this qualifier. how hard can they be training if your guys lost to iP. j/k haha good luck
ya we played a few other teams a few weeks before that to though. The iP stuff and drama I'd really rather be kept out of this thread, its moved into like 10. I've even been "called out" on forums which I find funny, but all in all its not worth continuing to banter about.
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For the next qualifier can I suggest accepting some different lesser known teams, and perhaps some more from the EU server?
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Update on the qualifier -
It starts in 30 minutes.
There was a problem with IM and CyberNation playing this week, so they have been replaced by two more teams that applied.
Team Clash and inFerno eSports are replacing them respectively and are taking their spots in the bracket.
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Is there any specific channel you'd like teams to meet up in?
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In the OP it says : Sunday, January 14th - Finals
Is this supposed to be Saturday the 14th or Sunday the 15th ? =\
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Can anyone from IPL update the scores or post live result thread plz, thx
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On January 09 2012 04:09 StimilantE wrote:
Can anyone from IPL update the scores or post live result thread plz, thx
They're saving it until after they broadcast the matches later this week.
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Wow, with IM gone teams on the top side of the bracket now have a decent chance again.
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United States530 Posts
On January 09 2012 03:52 blahz0r wrote:
In the OP it says : Sunday, January 14th - Finals
Is this supposed to be Saturday the 14th or Sunday the 15th ? =\
Fixed, thank you. It was supposed to be Sunday the 15th. Also noted the IM/CN change to Clash/inFerno.
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