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Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 06 2012 14:49 GMT
#961
On January 06 2012 23:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Enjoying cloud's casting, dunno what reddit was on about yesterday
It's Reddit, what did you honestly expect?
#freeshauni
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 06 2012 14:49 GMT
#962
On January 06 2012 23:44 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:43 KDrake wrote:
Tanks continue to be bad against Protoss sadly. =(

How was that bad? He crushed Hero's first army with that push.

They don't work, you have to go mostly marines for support, otherwise zealots rape the tanks and any sort of tech destroys marines, it's been quite a while(months) since I saw a protoss losing to siege tanks.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
MESeidel
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany326 Posts
January 06 2012 14:50 GMT
#963
On January 06 2012 23:48 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:46 MESeidel wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:42 shr0ud wrote:
I wonder if Battlecruiser transition would be good.
BC need high number to be good.
The Thing is you can't kill them with HT.
Storm is not good and feedback doesn't snipe them completely just weakens them (not even thinking about self emp).
If there are only a few BC Toss can warp in enough Stalkers to snipe them.
But if they are enough in number it takes a lot of Stalkers (or void) that can't be there suddenly.


That is only valid if you play PvT though. If you TvT in the late game with tanks and you only have ONE battlecruiser, it can tourn-around the game or win you the game pretty easily. Doing mass battlecruisers is often times the the reason why you lose a game and not win it.
yes ofc should'a added that I mean TvP onyl ;o)
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 06 2012 14:50 GMT
#964
On January 06 2012 23:48 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:46 MESeidel wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:42 shr0ud wrote:
I wonder if Battlecruiser transition would be good.
BC need high number to be good.
The Thing is you can't kill them with HT.
Storm is not good and feedback doesn't snipe them completely just weakens them (not even thinking about self emp).
If there are only a few BC Toss can warp in enough Stalkers to snipe them.
But if they are enough in number it takes a lot of Stalkers (or void) that can't be there suddenly.


That is only valid if you play PvT though. If you TvT in the late game with tanks and you only have ONE battlecruiser, it can tourn-around the game or win you the game pretty easily. Doing mass battlecruisers is often times the the reason why you lose a game and not win it.


Agreed, in TvT. But in TvP, stalkers are pretty good, and Hts will take a great chunk out of their health
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 06 2012 14:50 GMT
#965
On January 06 2012 23:48 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:46 MESeidel wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:42 shr0ud wrote:
I wonder if Battlecruiser transition would be good.
BC need high number to be good.
The Thing is you can't kill them with HT.
Storm is not good and feedback doesn't snipe them completely just weakens them (not even thinking about self emp).
If there are only a few BC Toss can warp in enough Stalkers to snipe them.
But if they are enough in number it takes a lot of Stalkers (or void) that can't be there suddenly.


That is only valid if you play PvT though. If you TvT in the late game with tanks and you only have ONE battlecruiser, it can tourn-around the game or win you the game pretty easily. Doing mass battlecruisers is often times the the reason why you lose a game and not win it.


That's why he was talking about PvT >.> Ryung's been doing it lately, after getting +3 weapons for colossus centric comps
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2012 14:50 GMT
#966
1-1-1 from naama?
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 06 2012 14:51 GMT
#967
On January 06 2012 23:50 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:48 iSunrise wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:46 MESeidel wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:42 shr0ud wrote:
I wonder if Battlecruiser transition would be good.
BC need high number to be good.
The Thing is you can't kill them with HT.
Storm is not good and feedback doesn't snipe them completely just weakens them (not even thinking about self emp).
If there are only a few BC Toss can warp in enough Stalkers to snipe them.
But if they are enough in number it takes a lot of Stalkers (or void) that can't be there suddenly.


That is only valid if you play PvT though. If you TvT in the late game with tanks and you only have ONE battlecruiser, it can tourn-around the game or win you the game pretty easily. Doing mass battlecruisers is often times the the reason why you lose a game and not win it.


Agreed, in TvT. But in TvP, stalkers are pretty good, and Hts will take a great chunk out of their health


They actually have enough health that FB doesn't take out too much health, even then you can just EMP them and be fine, if you're truly worried.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
January 06 2012 14:51 GMT
#968
On January 06 2012 23:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Enjoying cloud's casting, dunno what reddit was on about yesterday

It's because r/starcraft is basically r/tmz, they love that drama.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 06 2012 14:52 GMT
#969
On January 06 2012 23:49 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:48 Mouzone wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:45 Tobberoth wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:45 silverstyle wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:44 Mouzone wrote:
Who's the guy to the left of Inc? Sat here thinking I heard Stephano the whole time, sounds just like him.


Thorzain i believe.

It's Thorzain indeed. Not saying much.


Nah, Thorzain's to the right, Cloud on the left someone said.


Cloud, Inc, Thorzain from L to R.

From our point of view. From inc's point of view, to his left is Thorzain.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 06 2012 14:52 GMT
#970
Warp prism?

SEND EVERY SCV!

Naama
twitch.tv/medrea
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 06 2012 14:53 GMT
#971
On January 06 2012 23:49 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 23:48 Mouzone wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:45 Tobberoth wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:45 silverstyle wrote:
On January 06 2012 23:44 Mouzone wrote:
Who's the guy to the left of Inc? Sat here thinking I heard Stephano the whole time, sounds just like him.


Thorzain i believe.

It's Thorzain indeed. Not saying much.


Nah, Thorzain's to the right, Cloud on the left someone said.


Cloud, Inc, Thorzain from L to R.

Thanks for that. I always get Thorzain and Incontrol mixed up.
$♥$
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 06 2012 14:53 GMT
#972
i concider a lategame army consisting of:
Tank, Marine, Viking, Hellion, GHOST
stronger than any bio/ghost/viking composition against protoss.

the problem is:
- Its hurts more to lose half of your mecharmy then losing your WHOLE bio-army.
- The bio-army is mobile, mech is therefore not only harder to play, but also naturally more vulnerable to specific things.
- Earlygame is very hard to survive

Saying "tanks are generally bad vs protoss" doesnt cut it.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#973
Stream 1
(P)HerO vs (T)Naama
Game 2 on Antiga Shipyard just ended.
Casted by: (P)iNcontroL, (T)ClouD, (T)ThorZaIN
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1 Winner] +
(P)HerO

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2 Winner] +
(P)HerO


Stream 2
(Z)HayprO vs (T)KawaiiRice
Game 2 on Antiga Shipyard in progress.
Casted by: MrBitter, (Z)DIMAGA
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1 Winner] +
(T)KawaiiRice
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#974
Hero is so flashy when he plays. i like it
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TL+ Member
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#975
On January 06 2012 23:52 Medrea wrote:
Warp prism?

SEND EVERY SCV!

Naama


He hadn't yet scouting HerO's build, and if he went for a 3 or 4 gate immortal prism allin, the ONLY way to hold is to pull scv to deter warpins. So yeah he did.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#976
lol damn!!!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Moriarty
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom286 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#977
I hope HerO drops out pretty quickly, not keen on him much to be honest.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#978
Wooo HerO so good!
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#979
that was so nicely done
chanseyy
Profile Joined November 2010
224 Posts
January 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#980
Oh wow, I just got sick from HerO's play. Holy shit that was good.
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