EPT[GSL] January Up&Downs Day 3 - Page 122
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On December 21 2011 22:23 caradoc wrote: This thread is shocking, seriously. The lack of respect.... Accusing a TL member in their first high profile match with their new team of match fixing with a friend without any evidence other than a (admittedly large/obvious facepalmy) mistake is just I-can't-believe-I'm-reading-this bad.... at the very very least people should give the benefit of the doubt to the players before discussing it. It's not matchfixing and I see people blaming Inca not Zenio. Zenio just did a build that, once scouted so early, made it VERY difficult for inca to lose but he still managed it. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
On December 21 2011 23:08 Scarecrow wrote: It's not matchfixing and I see people blaming Inca not Zenio. Zenio just did a build that, once scouted so early, made it VERY difficult for inca to lose but he still managed it. To be fair to Inca, he's a pretty bad player and hence it's not hard to imagine him doing facepalmingly bad. I'm raging that he's in Code S - I hope he falls straight to Code B next year! | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On December 21 2011 22:52 figq wrote: To respond to MrCon's remark in the other thread:I only like to point out that the most important factor is not team affiliation, but the fact that a player can "choose" future potential opponents. Even if these two never were teammates, it could be that player A prefers B to advance than players C and D, just because he thinks he has better potential vs B. Then in such situation, he would have to act against his own personal interest, if he wins the game and allows C and D to have a shot and continuing further instead. Yep, on this I agree this shouldn't happen. -- Poor inca, people are unfair, he got better since his finals vs Nestea  In fact, today is the first time I saw him made DT since quite a longtime. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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sopas
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On December 21 2011 22:52 Markwerf wrote: There is practically always doubt when it comes to issues like these, why would you ever want to prohibit discussion about it?? Accusing someone on one fluke alone is bad but censoring any discussion about it is even worse, regardless of that player being member of this site's team or not. Last month should have given enough proof that pool play is simply not suited for starcraft. There are too many things that can go wrong when the match is not important for one or both players. Compare that with the fact that BO1 is regarded stupid by many even when it's multiple Bo1's against one Bo3 then it should be clear for GSL that ridding their format of pools is just best. Simply play forms of double or single elimination, it's much more elegant and all matches will always be important for each player. The only disadvantage perhaps is that you get to see the players that win often duke it out less but having a fairer system overall is worth it. There are simply too many connections between players (clans, friends, etc.) to have pool play decide matters like this. I'm not suggesting talking about it should be prohibited, that would be silly. I'm simply saying that the starting point shouldn't be the assumption that it happened, which, for many here, it seems to be. Serious accusations should have serious evidence. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On December 21 2011 22:54 Maenander wrote: Everyone feels it's hard to kick a friend out of an important tournament when nothing is on the line for yourself. (Many people expressed that view in this thread.) Hence, when blunders like this one happen, it leaves a bad aftertaste in the mouth. You can't really blame people for being suspicious, in a way it's human nature. (just to corroborate why situations like this one should be avoided) winning against friends isn't always easy: ![[image loading]](http://boxerforever.com/images/img_memorable1.jpg) | ||
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Swap
Sweden144 Posts
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ma70
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On December 21 2011 23:25 Swap wrote: I didnt see the matches. But one more Toss in Code S is enough for me to start celebrating! Them tears will come when you see him get raped in code S. I prefer no rape then heavy rape. | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
damn more inca cheese in code s | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 22 2011 00:01 Moralez wrote: noooooooo polt and loosira damn more inca cheese in code s Lol. but when all terrans did 1/1/1 to turn GomTV into GomTvT it was fine? :D I think InCa deserved it obviously, everyone knew his go to unit is DTs yet they lost. | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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