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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1561
On December 20 2011 20:02 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?


It was Huk, but he used fake VRs


I like the cut of your jib.

(on an unrelated topic WTF is a jib?)
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iiomega
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania94 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1562
Lol guys, still talking about MorroW?

This double Stargate build is perfectly viable and is becoming popular on EU ladder as well because it allows you to deal with mutas and stupid roach all-ins. It's what the PvZ meta-game is shifting to, deal with it.
For the night is dark and full of Terrans!
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1563
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.


So why dont you switch to Protoss and get your code s already?
I've got moves like Jagger
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1564
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?

neither it was one of the IM protosses when they first added crevasse to the GSTL.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1565
On December 20 2011 20:01 rushian wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:58 Sc2Null wrote:
based on today's play..gumiho/morrow seems to be the only code S level

not sure what bomber's done wrong so far


Well he hasn't attacked more than once in the whole of todays games. Maybe people forgot about him.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1566
On December 20 2011 20:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Killer looks like he's been figured out.


More like everything about his play has gotten worse since leaving TSL, I think.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1567
On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.

edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope.


From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost.

Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches.


Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol

Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub.


You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it.

If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:04:58
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1568
On December 20 2011 20:03 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?

guineapig

IMYounghwa, GSTL

when did younghwa do it? guineapig did it in open season 3 i believe
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:05:24
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1569
On December 20 2011 20:03 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?


It was Huk, but he used fake VRs


I like the cut of your jib.

(on an unrelated topic WTF is a jib?)

It's dry wall. So i guess it just means that's a nice piece of wall you got there.

actually apparently its something to do with boats lol
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Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1570
On December 20 2011 20:01 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.


There are a bunch of terran all-ins in TvP which are pretty hard to predict/scout as well.


If we're going down this path, then let me tell you that Protoss has about three times the 1/2 base all-ins in PvT that terran has, and they are also difficult to scout because you can proxy them anywhere on the map.

Also please let's focus on the games instead of the usual whining.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1571
On December 20 2011 20:02 Andr3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote:
All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars

How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd...


Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin..

You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ?


Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ...


Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage.

There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done...

Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build).



So your point is... that it wasn't all in?

My point is that definitions of certain builds depend on the player's skill, at least now that SC2 isn't developed much.


But doesn't HerO still have to do "some" damage with 2 Stargate, and if he doesn't he's behind?
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:05:52
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1572
On December 20 2011 20:01 Hassybaby wrote:
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On December 20 2011 20:00 Dommk wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:58 TheDwf wrote:
Scouts Lab Factory yet goes Colossi anyway...

wtf, how do you beat that without Colossus lol?

I've tried Chargelot Archon on ladder but I've fallen flat on my face every time, if you have some sort of replays/vods then hook me up because I like going Templar but I don't know how to beat this without Colossus >_>


Adding a few immortals would have been better imo

IMO Immortals are good when the push comes quicker, but when there is a lot more Bio and meat to the push they die really fast. Colossus also need a crtical number, just enough where they can start to wipe out bio in a few hits, having two colossus + Immortals is worse than 4 Colossus and no immos because you end up leaving a ton of shit with red life and not being able to kill anything
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1573
On December 20 2011 20:03 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:54 rushian wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:49 TT1 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:43 MrCon wrote:
Double stargate is good, good build by Tassadar, especially the 2nd stargate after the single one was scouted.


its an allinish build because if u dont do any damage then ur pretty much fucked afterwards cus u cant tech into anything which makes taking your 3rd/harassing the z very hard so you cant prevent them from droning up T_T

his build was allinish but his execution was good, his execution showed me that he wouldnt have a problem playing in a macro game

but isn't there a range of damage that can be done? from killing overlords/forcing spores to killing drones, queens and even killing a hatch.. At what point is Tassadar ahead / safe-ish to take a third?


thats hard to say because if its very situational, if your playing vs a solid zerg then killing queens/forcing 3-4 spores per base isnt enought to justify the 2 stargates, u have to kill a base or catch the z off guard so u can kill alot of drones and force ALOT of spores on a base just so u can justify the tech, its a luck based build thats why im not too fond of it.. that being said u should always have these type of builds in ur arsenal because theyre needed if ur playing someone in a long series, i dont agree with using this type of build in a bo1 tho


Well, what build should he have used? Dual Sight is not exactly Protoss-friendly.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1574
On December 20 2011 20:03 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.


So why dont you switch to Protoss and get your code s already?


Seriously, a terran complaining about a different race being able to hide their allins >_>
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1575
On December 20 2011 20:02 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?


It was Huk, but he used fake VRs


lol, not even close. It was GuineaPig in Season 3.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
LeopoldStotch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States158 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1576
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.


If Tassadar was Zerg I'm sure he'd stand a good chance vs Morrow since he's too cowardly to play ZvZ.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1577
btw guys, if you didn't notice the way the six player format works out, if you lose 3 games, it's 100% impossible to advance

so the next two games
(T)Ryung <Calm Before the Storm> (P)Tassadar
Match 8
(Z)MorroW <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (P)SangHo
are actually super critical

if ryung loses, he's out
if killer loses, he's out as well
aaaaa
BlingRush
Profile Joined December 2011
84 Posts
December 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#1578
On December 20 2011 20:03 Ribbon wrote:
If Morrow doesn't advance, does he fall to Code A next season like everyone else, or is it a special case cause he was invited?

I think he'll go to code A because the code A match ups are all planned out already
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 20 2011 11:05 GMT
#1579
On December 20 2011 20:03 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?


It was Huk, but he used fake VRs


I like the cut of your jib.

(on an unrelated topic WTF is a jib?)


Slang for teeth in prisons? There's a lot of meaning for it, but that's the one I think is associated with that phrase. Still makes no sense
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 20 2011 11:05 GMT
#1580
On December 20 2011 20:02 Noremack.cm wrote:
Why is Tal'Darim Altar still in the map pool. The stats show its heavily favored towards T.

That being said Gumiho played that really well.


Protoss is 48% on this map. Both korean and international.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/448_Tal'Darim_Altar_LE
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