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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1521
On December 20 2011 19:59 iiomega wrote:
Are colossi even good vs T anymore? :-S


Not if you don't protect them properly no.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1522
Killer has horrible army control. The first engagement he didn't even use guardian shield.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1523
On December 20 2011 19:58 RPR_Tempest wrote:
GuMiho and Bomber are both 2-0 and are MorroW's biggest threats. Uh oh.


Good thing he still has to play them both!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1524
On December 20 2011 19:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:58 Tantaburs wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:57 TheBB wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:54 Tantaburs wrote:
aren't there 3 units that outrange 9 range collo

tanks are 13

BLs are9.5?

thors are 10? (9.5?)


Thor's 10 range is only for air remember

Well they can still hit colossi with that.


thors will never use there AtA attack vs collo

...which is a bit weird when you think about it

It's logical, they use the highest dps attack.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1525
On December 20 2011 19:57 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:54 Tantaburs wrote:
aren't there 3 units that outrange 9 range collo

tanks are 13

BLs are9.5?

thors are 10? (9.5?)


Thor's 10 range is only for air remember

Well they can still hit colossi with that.


Pretty certain they can't.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1526
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.


Thats cause it's different races and difference races require different playstyles.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1527
On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.

edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope.


From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost.

Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches.


Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol

Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub.


You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it.
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
December 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1528
On December 20 2011 19:58 TheDwf wrote:
Scouts Lab Factory yet goes Colossi anyway...

wtf, how do you beat that without Colossus lol?

I've tried Chargelot Archon on ladder but I've fallen flat on my face every time, if you have some sort of replays/vods then hook me up because I like going Templar but I don't know how to beat this without Colossus >_>
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1529
On December 20 2011 19:59 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:58 Hassybaby wrote:
Do they hit collo with air? I've never actually paid that much attention to Thor v Collo battles but my memory thought that fired their ground attack

No, they use the ground attack against Colossi. Queens use their anti-air, though.


units with 2 attacks use the one with the higher DPS
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1530
Tanks are great as long as you can keep the Protoss small and/or you get into a fortified position. If ever have to move on open field with them OR the Protoss gets most of his tech they suck. .
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1531
On December 20 2011 19:59 Odoakar wrote:
A wild Naniwa appears

That's Cytoplasm, not Naniwa
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1532
On December 20 2011 20:00 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:58 RPR_Tempest wrote:
GuMiho and Bomber are both 2-0 and are MorroW's biggest threats. Uh oh.


Good thing he still has to play them both!

Yeah. If he beats at least one of them, he'll be in a pretty good position.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1533
GuMiHo just played so smart that game. Killer didn't necessarily play bad.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1534
On December 20 2011 20:00 Dommk wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:58 TheDwf wrote:
Scouts Lab Factory yet goes Colossi anyway...

wtf, how do you beat that without Colossus lol?

I've tried Chargelot Archon on ladder but I've fallen flat on my face every time, if you have some sort of replays/vods then hook me up because I like going Templar but I don't know how to beat this without Colossus >_>


Adding a few immortals would have been better imo
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1535
On December 20 2011 19:58 Haydin wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:57 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:57 Sambobly wrote:
God I LOVE this sort of TvP. Siege tanks are the best


Yeah, and viable too when you are 50 supply ahead.


The contain was HOW he got such a massive lead.


Well I would give some of the credit to another player.
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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1536
First engagement before Charge.

Second engagement with Charge but still terrible Zealot control, first charging them in then chickening out and walking to retreat and losing half of them doing nothing.

Didn't build a Warp Prism to warp some Zealots outside and flank. Didn't split his army up.

Just fucking 1-a'd his army time and time again down the same ramp like an insane person.

No Protoss tears, please. Killer played so bad.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1537
Now Morrow have to win vs Gumibear, so he's tied with the head to head advantage. Then Morrow beats Killer, Gumi lose to Bomber and/or Ryung, and Morrow advances :p
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1538
On December 20 2011 19:58 Sc2Null wrote:
based on today's play..gumiho/morrow seems to be the only code S level

not sure what bomber's done wrong so far
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1539
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.


There are a bunch of terran all-ins in TvP which are pretty hard to predict/scout as well.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1540
On December 20 2011 19:59 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:57 itungle wrote:
Damn Tassadar won.. GG
It might be a cheesy build but it is a tournament u cant expect every players play straight up.
@Cloud dont tell me u never use a cheesy/all ins in tournaments.

Using all in in tournaments is fine, it's just ridicolous how many different all ins protoss can perform and at the same time make the opponent oblivious of what's going on. Trust me if Tassadar was Zerg or Terran and he would have played the same way vs Morrow he would have never won that game.

I'd expect better than this from a pro, you sound like every other balance whining scrub.
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