On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote:
So your point is... that it wasn't all in?
So your point is... that it wasn't all in?
My point is that definitions of certain builds depend on the player's skill, at least now that SC2 isn't developed much.
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Andre
Slovenia3516 Posts
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote: On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote: On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote: On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote: All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd... Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin.. You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ? Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ... Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage. There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done... Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build). So your point is... that it wasn't all in? My point is that definitions of certain builds depend on the player's skill, at least now that SC2 isn't developed much. | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:00 Dommk wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 19:58 TheDwf wrote: Scouts Lab Factory yet goes Colossi anyway... wtf, how do you beat that without Colossus lol? Immortals are better to get rid of Tanks near the cliff. | ||
Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 20 2011 19:43 Troublesome wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote: On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote: All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd... Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin.. Double stargate isn't completely all-in, but it has to do some pretty serious damage to not leave you at a huge disadvantage. isn't it the case of pretty much any timing push ? I've never been able to understand what definition of all-in you have here but anyway... | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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United States476 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote: was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg? guineapig | ||
weiliem
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:01 labbe wrote: That's Cytoplasm, not Naniwa I thought NaNiwa was in the Startale house, he seems to be talking in Destiny's stream. | ||
AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote: On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote: On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote: On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote: All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd... Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin.. You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ? Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ... Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage. There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done... Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build). So your point is... that it wasn't all in? Any PvZ build needs to do damage by early-mid midgame or else you're screwed. So you can call anything an allin. | ||
Noremack.cm
Australia91 Posts
That being said Gumiho played that really well. | ||
Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote: was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg? guineapig TY i get them confused all the time | ||
Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote: was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg? It was Huk, but he used fake VRs | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:01 how2TL wrote: First engagement before Charge. ... and without any Sentry use. He used Guardian Shield very late, did not try to forcefield away Marines, etc. | ||
TT1
Canada9990 Posts
On December 20 2011 19:54 rushian wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 19:49 TT1 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:43 MrCon wrote: Double stargate is good, good build by Tassadar, especially the 2nd stargate after the single one was scouted. its an allinish build because if u dont do any damage then ur pretty much fucked afterwards cus u cant tech into anything which makes taking your 3rd/harassing the z very hard so you cant prevent them from droning up T_T his build was allinish but his execution was good, his execution showed me that he wouldnt have a problem playing in a macro game but isn't there a range of damage that can be done? from killing overlords/forcing spores to killing drones, queens and even killing a hatch.. At what point is Tassadar ahead / safe-ish to take a third? thats hard to say because if its very situational, if your playing vs a solid zerg then killing queens/forcing 3-4 spores per base isnt enought to justify the 2 stargates, u have to kill a base or catch the z off guard so u can kill alot of drones and force ALOT of spores(once u catch them by surprise they have to overcompensate on the spores because your obv killing them while theyre building) just so u can justify the tech, its a luck based build thats why im not too fond of it.. that being said u should always have these type of builds in ur arsenal because theyre needed if ur playing someone in a long series, i dont agree with using this type of build in a bo1 tho | ||
andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote: was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg? guineapig IMYounghwa, GSTL | ||
Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote: On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote: On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote: On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote: On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote: All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd... Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin.. You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ? Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ... Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage. There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done... Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build). So your point is... that it wasn't all in? It wasn't so much the build but the fact that it was tassadar - he's a known alliner - the only variable is what kind of allin | ||
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