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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1541
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote:
All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars

How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd...


Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin..

You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ?


Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ...


Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage.

There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done...

Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build).



So your point is... that it wasn't all in?

My point is that definitions of certain builds depend on the player's skill, at least now that SC2 isn't developed much.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1542
On December 20 2011 20:00 Dommk wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:58 TheDwf wrote:
Scouts Lab Factory yet goes Colossi anyway...

wtf, how do you beat that without Colossus lol?

Immortals are better to get rid of Tanks near the cliff.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1543
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1544
On December 20 2011 19:43 Troublesome wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote:
All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars

How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd...


Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin..

Double stargate isn't completely all-in, but it has to do some pretty serious damage to not leave you at a huge disadvantage.

isn't it the case of pretty much any timing push ? I've never been able to understand what definition of all-in you have here but anyway...
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1545
Killer looks like he's been figured out.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1546
Killer too indecisive there. Kept suiciding some units to half-halfheartedly kill some tanks while losing colossi. Not a good trade. Should have gotten watchtower control so he could stop the contain before it got to his base. Or turtle up and build some immortals/zealots to flank from the otherside or something.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:02:36
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1547
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?

guineapig
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2070 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1548
Thats just so sad for killer.... =( is colossus really btr than ht tech?? y does every protoss seem to be switching back to colossi tech after the few weeks domination with the ht archon tech rush??
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1549
On December 20 2011 20:01 labbe wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:59 Odoakar wrote:
A wild Naniwa appears

That's Cytoplasm, not Naniwa


I thought NaNiwa was in the Startale house, he seems to be talking in Destiny's stream.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1550
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote:
All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars

How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd...


Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin..

You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ?


Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ...


Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage.

There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done...

Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build).



So your point is... that it wasn't all in?


Any PvZ build needs to do damage by early-mid midgame or else you're screwed. So you can call anything an allin.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Noremack.cm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia91 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1551
Why is Tal'Darim Altar still in the map pool. The stats show its heavily favored towards T.

That being said Gumiho played that really well.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1552
On December 20 2011 20:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?

guineapig



TY i get them confused all the time
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1553
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?


It was Huk, but he used fake VRs
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1554
On December 20 2011 20:01 how2TL wrote:
First engagement before Charge.

... and without any Sentry use. He used Guardian Shield very late, did not try to forcefield away Marines, etc.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:04:34
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1555
On December 20 2011 19:54 rushian wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:49 TT1 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:43 MrCon wrote:
Double stargate is good, good build by Tassadar, especially the 2nd stargate after the single one was scouted.


its an allinish build because if u dont do any damage then ur pretty much fucked afterwards cus u cant tech into anything which makes taking your 3rd/harassing the z very hard so you cant prevent them from droning up T_T

his build was allinish but his execution was good, his execution showed me that he wouldnt have a problem playing in a macro game

but isn't there a range of damage that can be done? from killing overlords/forcing spores to killing drones, queens and even killing a hatch.. At what point is Tassadar ahead / safe-ish to take a third?


thats hard to say because if its very situational, if your playing vs a solid zerg then killing queens/forcing 3-4 spores per base isnt enought to justify the 2 stargates, u have to kill a base or catch the z off guard so u can kill alot of drones and force ALOT of spores(once u catch them by surprise they have to overcompensate on the spores because your obv killing them while theyre building) just so u can justify the tech, its a luck based build thats why im not too fond of it.. that being said u should always have these type of builds in ur arsenal because theyre needed if ur playing someone in a long series, i dont agree with using this type of build in a bo1 tho
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:03:33
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1556
On December 20 2011 20:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg?

guineapig

IMYounghwa, GSTL
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1557
If Morrow doesn't advance, does he fall to Code A next season like everyone else, or is it a special case cause he was invited?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1558
On December 20 2011 19:59 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:57 Andr3 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:51 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:43 Gevna wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:42 SkullZ9 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:40 Logros wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:39 RPR_Tempest wrote:
All-inning foreigners seems to be a hobby of Tassadars

How was that all-in? The huge attack he did was after he took a 3rd...


Double stargate when you hide 5 void rays + phoenixes is an allin..

You're embarassing yourself. Watch the game ffs, where was it an all-in ?


Ahah, Cloud and TT1 are also embarassing themselves so, cause they also say that's allinish play ...


Do tons of damage or lose the game, isn't that the definition of all-in, Killer just managed to do the needed damage.

There's a difference between a build that's allin and a build that requires dmg to be done...

Hero plays 2stargate a lot, because most people(pros) suck at multitasking it's seen as a bad/cheesy build. Watch Hero do it and it looks totally different. You get lots of scouting/harass and force your opponent to compete in multitasking(which is why hero is so good with this build).



So your point is... that it wasn't all in?

It wasn't so much the build but the fact that it was tassadar - he's a known alliner - the only variable is what kind of allin
BlingRush
Profile Joined December 2011
84 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1559
Next match Ryung vs Tassadar. Hope Ryung wins this one he's 0W 2L so far
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 20 2011 11:03 GMT
#1560
I don't understand the obsession with wanting to label every remotely non standard build an all in. Do you win a prize or something?
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