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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon | ||
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spree
United States86 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
if that's the case why are you there in the first place, whether or not you have a placement in the later stages of the tournament, you're doing something that you love, and just giving up because of your results is no way to behave, maybe thats just the type of person I am, but if I were in naniwa's position I'd be playing it till the end, like MC said about white-ra, it doesn't matter if he's going to get anywhere or not, he plays his games out, and never stops trying naniwa gave up, he gave up on himself, and he gave up on his fans and his team | ||
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OhSix
United States252 Posts
And personally, I don't really think it's that big of a deal, and it's getting blown WAYYY out proportion. But hey, that's just my opinion. | ||
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tyrless
United States485 Posts
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Mylkyjo
Australia110 Posts
Think about it this way, the two lowest ranked NBA teams are facing off with no chance of making the play-offs. Do you ever see one team go out there and shoot from halfway the entire game, because they don't want to "use their best strats"? No, you don't. They are playing because they are pros, they're paid to perform, they have contracts to uphold, they have sponsors to satisfy, and they take pride in what they do. If you want eSports to prosper, shit like this cannot be tolerated by teams, leagues, fans and sponsors. Naniwa and quantic gaming should be ashamed. | ||
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Hubris
United States113 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:15 MorroW wrote: because both were out of the tournament the game didnt matter. why do they even have the game in the first place? its kinda silly because both players have no reason to fight their hardest or show potential secret builds he probably wasnt allowed to give walkover so he just did whatever ended the game the quickest do you guys really wanna watch 2 guys play a casual game during GSL blizzard cup where neither of them cares about winning? im not saying what naniwa did was right or wrong, or manner or bad manner. im just saying i think the system should allow for walkovers if they players request it if the game has no meaning The meaning is for the fans, the viewers, and sponsors/tourny holders. I tune in to watch every game, I don't care who wins a tourny. I only care about watching SC2, and it's disappointing some pro gamers care more about winning than the joy of the game itself or providing entertainment to the growing community. It's selfish to deprive viewers of good games, especially considering they're paid to entertain in them. Edit: Some of my favorite players win sparse or no tournys. Being a entertainer and being a winner are two different things, and the latter is something I don't tune in for. | ||
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thragar
Canada450 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:15 MorroW wrote: because both were out of the tournament the game didnt matter. why do they even have the game in the first place? its kinda silly because both players have no reason to fight their hardest or show potential secret builds he probably wasnt allowed to give walkover so he just did whatever ended the game the quickest do you guys really wanna watch 2 guys play a casual game during GSL blizzard cup where neither of them cares about winning? im not saying what naniwa did was right or wrong, or manner or bad manner. im just saying i think the system should allow for walkovers if they players request it if the game has no meaning From all reports I've read, Nestea cared about winning, just that Naniwa didn't. How can a league exist profitably if players just give up as soon as it doesn't matter for them? Teams in the NFL, NHL, etc. don't stop playing just because neither team can make the playoffs, and it's reasonable to expect them to play - this was the agreed upon format as professionals and if he can't respect the format, then he should have not attended. | ||
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Spuick
Norway357 Posts
On December 14 2011 06:06 Mylkyjo wrote: I read some posts/tweets from other pros making excuses for Naniwa. Think about it this way, the two lowest ranked NBA teams are facing off with no chance of making the play-offs. Do you ever see one team go out there and shoot from halfway the entire game, because they don't want to "use their best strats"? No, you don't. They are playing because they are pros, they're paid to perform, they have contracts to uphold, they have sponsors to satisfy, and they take pride in what they do. If you want eSports to prosper, shit like this cannot be tolerated by teams, leagues, fans and sponsors. Naniwa and quantic gaming should be ashamed. You don't want your best strats to be figured out and be out there. Many korean progamers that stream now don't show their A-game because of that reason and it's the reason koreans in SC BW teams don't stream (I mean, they sure as hell would've liked to earn extra money on the side) Forgg dicks around and shows fun strats, dragon shows fun strats, bomber jokes around sometimes and so on. This point is in no way comparable to basketball. There's not some new basketball strat that will suddenly ruin the metagame in basketball for a good 4-5 months before people figure it out haha. | ||
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Spuick
Norway357 Posts
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:50 SafeAsCheese wrote: Absolutely awful micro from MMA and it doesn't matter because nani forgot pylons  Those thors got stuck on a pylon? Even I didn't think that pylon was in the way but thors are so massive that it's hard to tell what will get in their pathway. That's the ONLY reason why MMA gave Naniwa even a slimmer of hope of winning that game | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
We had epic games We had higher quality games than yesterday. We had MMA go 5-1, Leenock go 4-2, and Polt the underdog go 3-3.... And all anyone talks about is Naniwa's stunt :[.... Btw, LR is in the OP in case u guys missed the games. Cheers~! -Seeker | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:27 Baum wrote: They weren't sieged. MMA failing at micro again. I hope Polt advances MMA doesn't really deserve it today. MMA just played some of the most flawless TvZ games against the two best zergs in the world and you say he doesn't deserve it today? He ended up beating polt anyways, so your argument is kinda invalid | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
I don't get how ANYBODY can defend Naniwa. You never fucking give up. How can you be taken seriously as a competitor if you throw in the towl when shit gets bad? You know losing like a champion is just as important as winning gracefully (something nani can't do either). Grow. The. Fuck. Up. Play the game for the people allowing you to make a living playing a fucking video game ffs. On brighter news, Gratz to MMA and Leenock. True beasts. | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:18 Liquid`Jinro wrote: I respect him for being smart enough to play both sides of the best matchup in the game. Lol so true, TvZ is by far the most entertaining and most figured out | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282415 | ||
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Polox
Sweden115 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:01 GreyKnight wrote: heh okay. if you believe this then you're delusional Because? I can say the same to you. It's obvious like you never studied psychology and thusfar I really doubt you have anything of worth to say about this specific matter. | ||
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
On December 14 2011 06:06 Mylkyjo wrote: I read some posts/tweets from other pros making excuses for Naniwa. Think about it this way, the two lowest ranked NBA teams are facing off with no chance of making the play-offs. Do you ever see one team go out there and shoot from halfway the entire game, because they don't want to "use their best strats"? No, you don't. They are playing because they are pros, they're paid to perform, they have contracts to uphold, they have sponsors to satisfy, and they take pride in what they do. If you want eSports to prosper, shit like this cannot be tolerated by teams, leagues, fans and sponsors. Naniwa and quantic gaming should be ashamed. Well the Yankees sit more then half of their starting lineup down in the final few games since they already clinch the playoff spot. And there Desean Jackson play like zombie walking don't care shit about the team since they didn't give him a contract extension. Vince Carter in Raptors days play bad intentionally forcing the team to trade him. In two NASL season there are people won't even show up for the matches. I remember one of them is a korean pro the excuse is overslept. | ||
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Polox
Sweden115 Posts
On December 14 2011 06:04 tyrless wrote: naniwa hasn't a clue what it takes to be a champion, kid will be scrubbing it in code A for life Cool guy, bold statement. And apparently YOU know what it takes to be a champion. | ||
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Lavi
Bangladesh793 Posts
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PharaohLarry
Canada70 Posts
NaNi 화이팅! | ||
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