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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable. And as always: - No player bashing. - No caster bashing. - No balance whining. Enjoy the games. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
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vojnik
Macedonia923 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:08 darkest44 wrote: Lol yes, kick 2 players out of the tournament just to appease the Stephano fanboys with delusions that MC threw a hard fought game vs DRG. Such a joke. It was plenty balanced, the players who preformed the best advanced. Group play is a standard model used in many tournaments and only now whined about cause some Stephano fanboys are butt hurt he didn't get through. If MC won none of these kids would be whining. Never followed any sports event? Group stage is inherently unfair at times and causes whining. No need to flame. | ||
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Bromazepam
820 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:08 darkest44 wrote: Lol yes, kick 2 players out of the tournament just to appease the Stephano fanboys with delusions that MC threw a hard fought game vs DRG. Such a joke. It was plenty balanced, the players who preformed the best advanced. Group play is a standard model used in many tournaments and only now whined about cause some Stephano fanboys are butt hurt he didn't get through. If MC won none of these kids would be whining. If Stephano had won vs MC and they forced a rematch playoff then the same kids would be whining that that's unfair and "stephano already beat him". These kids will whine about whatever prevents their favorite player from advancing in any particular tournament. That's a very good point you're making there. Except that it's completely wrong since many people (me included) have stated that they didn't care whether DRG or Stephano got through. | ||
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:11 vojnik wrote: i am pretty sure if MC and Stephano were reversed positions and stephano advanced instead of MC there wouldn't be a single line of discussion about the "bad" tournament format, you should be ashamed of youselves That's untrue. Take your witty comment and leave the LR thread lol. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
Still amazing that MVP could win WCG and 24 hours later qualify through his group. Really articulates how much ahead he is of everyone in the world. | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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Bromazepam
820 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:11 masakenji wrote: stop crying bout stephano, hero was 0-4. CRY FOR HIM. if it was best of 3, hero would've won, DAMN THIS FORMAT... LOL I started crying for Hero when I saw him go Nexus first in PvP. By now the tears have dried out already. Oh wait... TT | ||
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quancer
Canada161 Posts
His point is that the results say M > S as well as S > D > M, which are completely contradictory. Why should we favour one over the other? Tournaments are strictly about overall performance in that a better score regardless of who you face determines how far you go. To suddenly dispense of this in the case of ties makes absolutely no sense, especially when your choice is essentially arbitrary. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
And I like how many people are complaining about the format but wouldn't have if MC won the game vs drg | ||
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Edko
France20 Posts
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Mbenga
4 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:13 quancer wrote: His point is that the results say M > S as well as S > D > M, which are completely contradictory. Why should we favour one over the other? Tournaments are strictly about overall performance in that a better score regardless of who you face determines how far you go. To suddenly dispense of this in the case of ties makes absolutely no sense, especially when your choice is essentially arbitrary. oh ya in football at the end of the season if both teams are 8-8 and team a is 1-0 to team b, they have a playoff. oh wait! "first time i encounter this in sports" | ||
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:13 Bromazepam wrote: I started crying for Hero when I saw him go Nexus first in PvP. By now the tears have dried out already. Oh wait... TT for some reason, seeing a fellow sympathizer... easily tears me up T.T | ||
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:14 pPingu wrote: Just want to remind that on TL accusing players of match ficing without any proof is a good way to get banned And I like how many people are complaining about the format but wouldn't have if MC won the game vs drg Oh trust me there would have been people complaining. | ||
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Slike
Greece127 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:14 pPingu wrote: Just want to remind that on TL accusing players of match ficing without any proof is a good way to get banned And I like how many people are complaining about the format but wouldn't have if MC won the game vs drg Stop those ridiculous posts. You have no way to know if people would complain about the format if stephano went through and you cant know if everyone posting here complaining about the format is a stephano fanboy (which they arent - at least i know i am not) . The thing is this is a very arguable format and people are discussing about it. Fanboyism is as annoying as anti-fanboyism , you know. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:12 redviper wrote: How was MVP vs DRG? MVP went BFH harass, cancelled DRG B3 while DRG was going roach / mutas and actually kicked MVP's B3 right after. At the same time MVP was going meca with hellions / thors, killed a lot of mutas but got rolled by roaches (lack of tanks ?) and lost. Good game overall, it could have gone either way at some point but DRG macro, decision making and the mobility of his army made the difference. All in one, what can be remembered of the last 100 pages of this thread, BO1 SUCKS ! Why ? 1) Endless discussions of who's better, why X got eliminated with same score as Y, etc. Less likely to happen in BO3 2) Matches decided by cheeses, semi all-ins etc. Lack of macro games makes me a sad panda. 3) Best reason, 10 games between best players in the world <<<< 20+ games. And there was plenty of time to pull that off as there is a full day per group. ====> GSL, next time, BO3 plx !!! | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:13 quancer wrote: His point is that the results say M > S as well as S > D > M, which are completely contradictory. Why should we favour one over the other? Tournaments are strictly about overall performance in that a better score regardless of who you face determines how far you go. To suddenly dispense of this in the case of ties makes absolutely no sense, especially when your choice is essentially arbitrary. Tournaments are most certainly NOT about overall performance. Otherwise they would have a fully connected graph. There is an inherent localization in tournaments and this is clearly an evidence of that. MC beat Stephano is more localized than Stephano beat DRG beat MC. Its quite obvious and that is why everyone uses tie breakers. | ||
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