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ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
December 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#1621
Can Stalkers blink over into the corner?
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 18 2011 21:04 GMT
#1622
On December 19 2011 06:02 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 05:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:26 wklbishop wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.


The idea is that foreign teams have more money than Korean teams which is true (except maybe Slayers).

Whether you disagree with that thought process is your own decision and note I do not give an opinion, just want to point out the thought process.

On December 19 2011 05:25 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:22 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.



no because kawaiirice has a team at his back which usually send thier players to international tournaments. korean teams usually cant send thier players because they dont have that much money so they have to be very selective about which foreign tournaments they gonna attend to.


I dunno I'm against giving special treatment to people. And also, seems pretty weird that you assume the financial situation of some teams / players. Just because KawaiiRice is in Fnatic doesn't mean that it's any easier to send him to an event.

In either case, if TaKe is paying for 2 koreans to attend, he should also offer to pay for the 2nd place finisher in the NA / EU qualifier. That would be the most fair...

I'm not really bitter or angry, but I just don't personally agree with giving someone special treatment because they are more popular / better / not in a team that has money, or whatever reason. These things should be based on merit IMO, it's the most fair way.

Either way the tournament will be amazing, I'm just stating my opinion. TaKe is a great dude and I'm sure there are reasons for why he does everything.


But by that logic, you can also argue that KR, Attero, and Violet got in because they were playing from an easier server rather than any tournament based on merit. Actually, going by merit, the tournament should be mostly Korean....

Just so we're clear, I think it's great KR qualified and I understand where you're coming from, but I just don't agree with the argument you're making because I feel like it's flawed.


That merit argument doesn't work. The fact that he separated qualifier by region means that he wanted NA , EU , and KR representatives. So... Violet, Attero, and KawaiiRice earned spots based on merit regionally. Just because Korea is better doesn't make qualifying from NA less valid, if there is a specific NA qualifier.


Wait so why did the merit argument work when NASL offered to pay for Korean's trips to NASL finals?


We DIDNT do that, which is why they didn't play in Season 2. We gave every player the same deal O_O


But you said you offered to pay part of it, Take said he would pay a little bit if it was in his budget so what's the difference? Besides the fact that the Koreans didn't pull out.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 18 2011 21:06 GMT
#1623
Seriously, Beasty had two units, two cloaked banshees, total and lost them both. So incredibly sloppy, he had that game won.
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
December 18 2011 21:07 GMT
#1624
On December 19 2011 06:06 Longshank wrote:
Seriously, Beasty had two units, two cloaked banshees, total and lost them both. So incredibly sloppy, he had that game won.


hasu had that won if he would have made a stargate instead of a robo -_-
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
December 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#1625
On December 19 2011 06:07 DailYLeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:06 Longshank wrote:
Seriously, Beasty had two units, two cloaked banshees, total and lost them both. So incredibly sloppy, he had that game won.


hasu had that won if he would have made a stargate instead of a robo -_-

He only had 270 minerals, not enough for a phoenix
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#1626
On December 19 2011 06:04 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:02 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:26 wklbishop wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.


The idea is that foreign teams have more money than Korean teams which is true (except maybe Slayers).

Whether you disagree with that thought process is your own decision and note I do not give an opinion, just want to point out the thought process.

On December 19 2011 05:25 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:22 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.



no because kawaiirice has a team at his back which usually send thier players to international tournaments. korean teams usually cant send thier players because they dont have that much money so they have to be very selective about which foreign tournaments they gonna attend to.


I dunno I'm against giving special treatment to people. And also, seems pretty weird that you assume the financial situation of some teams / players. Just because KawaiiRice is in Fnatic doesn't mean that it's any easier to send him to an event.

In either case, if TaKe is paying for 2 koreans to attend, he should also offer to pay for the 2nd place finisher in the NA / EU qualifier. That would be the most fair...

I'm not really bitter or angry, but I just don't personally agree with giving someone special treatment because they are more popular / better / not in a team that has money, or whatever reason. These things should be based on merit IMO, it's the most fair way.

Either way the tournament will be amazing, I'm just stating my opinion. TaKe is a great dude and I'm sure there are reasons for why he does everything.


But by that logic, you can also argue that KR, Attero, and Violet got in because they were playing from an easier server rather than any tournament based on merit. Actually, going by merit, the tournament should be mostly Korean....

Just so we're clear, I think it's great KR qualified and I understand where you're coming from, but I just don't agree with the argument you're making because I feel like it's flawed.


That merit argument doesn't work. The fact that he separated qualifier by region means that he wanted NA , EU , and KR representatives. So... Violet, Attero, and KawaiiRice earned spots based on merit regionally. Just because Korea is better doesn't make qualifying from NA less valid, if there is a specific NA qualifier.


Wait so why did the merit argument work when NASL offered to pay for Korean's trips to NASL finals?


We DIDNT do that, which is why they didn't play in Season 2. We gave every player the same deal O_O


But you said you offered to pay part of it, Take said he would pay a little bit if it was in his budget so what's the difference? Besides the fact that the Koreans didn't pull out.


What he's getting at is that NASL offered all players, including the Europeans, the same deal iirc. They didn't give special treatment to the Koreans, which was sort of the issue they had.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 21:15:13
December 18 2011 21:14 GMT
#1627
On December 19 2011 05:35 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 05:34 Bobster wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.

Korea only gets 2 spots instead of 3, but in exchange they both get paid the travel instead of just one. Seems like a fair deal to me.

If it were completely equal across regions, you'd only have 2 spots in the NA qualifier. What place did Kawaii get again? :p


That'd be totally cool if both spots were paid.. oo:

You and KawaiiRice knew when signing up for the qualifier that only first spot gets his flight paid.

The fact that Take decided to pay maybe additionally a second flight for Koreans doesnt bring any disadvantage to you. Would you prefer if Take would only pay for one korean? What would you gain from that? You would still have to pay the flight for KawaiiRice.

Dont be that envious and dont grudge that Korean his trip.
Off-season = best season
Namenlos
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany96 Posts
December 18 2011 21:17 GMT
#1628
Lets face it for koreans 3 spots one paid flight would result in more money for korea than 2 spots 2 flights
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 18 2011 21:19 GMT
#1629
On December 19 2011 06:04 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:02 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:26 wklbishop wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.


The idea is that foreign teams have more money than Korean teams which is true (except maybe Slayers).

Whether you disagree with that thought process is your own decision and note I do not give an opinion, just want to point out the thought process.

On December 19 2011 05:25 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:22 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.



no because kawaiirice has a team at his back which usually send thier players to international tournaments. korean teams usually cant send thier players because they dont have that much money so they have to be very selective about which foreign tournaments they gonna attend to.


I dunno I'm against giving special treatment to people. And also, seems pretty weird that you assume the financial situation of some teams / players. Just because KawaiiRice is in Fnatic doesn't mean that it's any easier to send him to an event.

In either case, if TaKe is paying for 2 koreans to attend, he should also offer to pay for the 2nd place finisher in the NA / EU qualifier. That would be the most fair...

I'm not really bitter or angry, but I just don't personally agree with giving someone special treatment because they are more popular / better / not in a team that has money, or whatever reason. These things should be based on merit IMO, it's the most fair way.

Either way the tournament will be amazing, I'm just stating my opinion. TaKe is a great dude and I'm sure there are reasons for why he does everything.


But by that logic, you can also argue that KR, Attero, and Violet got in because they were playing from an easier server rather than any tournament based on merit. Actually, going by merit, the tournament should be mostly Korean....

Just so we're clear, I think it's great KR qualified and I understand where you're coming from, but I just don't agree with the argument you're making because I feel like it's flawed.


That merit argument doesn't work. The fact that he separated qualifier by region means that he wanted NA , EU , and KR representatives. So... Violet, Attero, and KawaiiRice earned spots based on merit regionally. Just because Korea is better doesn't make qualifying from NA less valid, if there is a specific NA qualifier.


Wait so why did the merit argument work when NASL offered to pay for Korean's trips to NASL finals?


We DIDNT do that, which is why they didn't play in Season 2. We gave every player the same deal O_O


But you said you offered to pay part of it, Take said he would pay a little bit if it was in his budget so what's the difference? Besides the fact that the Koreans didn't pull out.


The difference is EVERYONE got the same offer... How can you not understand that?

Here, 2 Koreans are getting their trips paid... but only 1 from the other regional qualifiers are getting paid. It's a very clear distinction.
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haflo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
140 Posts
December 18 2011 21:19 GMT
#1630
Why do u2 get more money to join a festival then Alabama best banjo players , not fair!

Korean's are pretty good , and they add to the tournament level which attract more viewers which worth money .
need a chart ?

but really this conversation better go in another thread ,
loved the qualifier take , can't wait for HSC4 , absolutely loved HSC3.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 18 2011 21:22 GMT
#1631
On December 19 2011 06:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 05:35 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:34 Bobster wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.

Korea only gets 2 spots instead of 3, but in exchange they both get paid the travel instead of just one. Seems like a fair deal to me.

If it were completely equal across regions, you'd only have 2 spots in the NA qualifier. What place did Kawaii get again? :p


That'd be totally cool if both spots were paid.. oo:

You and KawaiiRice knew when signing up for the qualifier that only first spot gets his flight paid.

The fact that Take decided to pay maybe additionally a second flight for Koreans doesnt bring any disadvantage to you. Would you prefer if Take would only pay for one korean? What would you gain from that? You would still have to pay the flight for KawaiiRice.

Dont be that envious and dont grudge that Korean his trip.


I'm not grudging or envious ... and I know that only 1st got the flight paid. I'm not even arguing that KawaiiRice should have his trip paid. I'm just saying that I don't agree with different policies for different regions. Everyone should get the same treatment. I.E. if 2 koreans are getting their flight paid, then the top 2 from the other regions should get paid too. Just looking for equality.

Anyway that's all I'll say about it.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 18 2011 21:23 GMT
#1632
On December 19 2011 06:13 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:04 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 06:02 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:26 wklbishop wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.


The idea is that foreign teams have more money than Korean teams which is true (except maybe Slayers).

Whether you disagree with that thought process is your own decision and note I do not give an opinion, just want to point out the thought process.

On December 19 2011 05:25 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:22 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
[quote]


just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.



no because kawaiirice has a team at his back which usually send thier players to international tournaments. korean teams usually cant send thier players because they dont have that much money so they have to be very selective about which foreign tournaments they gonna attend to.


I dunno I'm against giving special treatment to people. And also, seems pretty weird that you assume the financial situation of some teams / players. Just because KawaiiRice is in Fnatic doesn't mean that it's any easier to send him to an event.

In either case, if TaKe is paying for 2 koreans to attend, he should also offer to pay for the 2nd place finisher in the NA / EU qualifier. That would be the most fair...

I'm not really bitter or angry, but I just don't personally agree with giving someone special treatment because they are more popular / better / not in a team that has money, or whatever reason. These things should be based on merit IMO, it's the most fair way.

Either way the tournament will be amazing, I'm just stating my opinion. TaKe is a great dude and I'm sure there are reasons for why he does everything.


But by that logic, you can also argue that KR, Attero, and Violet got in because they were playing from an easier server rather than any tournament based on merit. Actually, going by merit, the tournament should be mostly Korean....

Just so we're clear, I think it's great KR qualified and I understand where you're coming from, but I just don't agree with the argument you're making because I feel like it's flawed.


That merit argument doesn't work. The fact that he separated qualifier by region means that he wanted NA , EU , and KR representatives. So... Violet, Attero, and KawaiiRice earned spots based on merit regionally. Just because Korea is better doesn't make qualifying from NA less valid, if there is a specific NA qualifier.


Wait so why did the merit argument work when NASL offered to pay for Korean's trips to NASL finals?


We DIDNT do that, which is why they didn't play in Season 2. We gave every player the same deal O_O


But you said you offered to pay part of it, Take said he would pay a little bit if it was in his budget so what's the difference? Besides the fact that the Koreans didn't pull out.


What he's getting at is that NASL offered all players, including the Europeans, the same deal iirc. They didn't give special treatment to the Koreans, which was sort of the issue they had.


Nah, NASL offered more of a stipend to the Korean players when they threatened to backout, so they did get special treatment. All I'm getting at is that you should just take the argument up with the management instead of blast shit all over forums trying to sway someone to get your way. If SC2 is going to continue to evolve as an Esport this shit has to stop, it's not professional and it's not fair to the tournament organizer, you knew only 1st place would get a trip, then your player should have won first.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 21:34:48
December 18 2011 21:24 GMT
#1633
take said sth like

"i have to check the budget first [...] maybe we can offer the 2nd place a free flight".

Koreans bring the skills, we pay their bills :D
I mean, no1 forces any1 to come, it would just be a sweet "add" for 1 korean player. dno how ppl can go crazy about it, when revival doesnt get paid, it wouldnt help kawaii either??


€:
MLG does almost everything for koreans, and till now almost NOTHING for europeans.
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Takuna
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany332 Posts
December 18 2011 21:35 GMT
#1634
lol @ beasty......
The spirits move me.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 21:39:16
December 18 2011 21:38 GMT
#1635
On December 19 2011 06:19 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:04 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 06:02 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:36 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:26 wklbishop wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:02 Xeris wrote:
Why do more Koreans get their flights paid ? o_O



just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.


The idea is that foreign teams have more money than Korean teams which is true (except maybe Slayers).

Whether you disagree with that thought process is your own decision and note I do not give an opinion, just want to point out the thought process.

On December 19 2011 05:25 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:22 arkedos wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:16 Xeris wrote:
On December 19 2011 05:06 arkedos wrote:
[quote]


just to make sure they will come, because the korean teams are not that willing to pay the whole trip.


What if I'm not willing to pay for KawaiiRice, will TaKe pay for his flight too?

That seems kinda unfair if he won't offer the same for all regions.



no because kawaiirice has a team at his back which usually send thier players to international tournaments. korean teams usually cant send thier players because they dont have that much money so they have to be very selective about which foreign tournaments they gonna attend to.


I dunno I'm against giving special treatment to people. And also, seems pretty weird that you assume the financial situation of some teams / players. Just because KawaiiRice is in Fnatic doesn't mean that it's any easier to send him to an event.

In either case, if TaKe is paying for 2 koreans to attend, he should also offer to pay for the 2nd place finisher in the NA / EU qualifier. That would be the most fair...

I'm not really bitter or angry, but I just don't personally agree with giving someone special treatment because they are more popular / better / not in a team that has money, or whatever reason. These things should be based on merit IMO, it's the most fair way.

Either way the tournament will be amazing, I'm just stating my opinion. TaKe is a great dude and I'm sure there are reasons for why he does everything.


But by that logic, you can also argue that KR, Attero, and Violet got in because they were playing from an easier server rather than any tournament based on merit. Actually, going by merit, the tournament should be mostly Korean....

Just so we're clear, I think it's great KR qualified and I understand where you're coming from, but I just don't agree with the argument you're making because I feel like it's flawed.


That merit argument doesn't work. The fact that he separated qualifier by region means that he wanted NA , EU , and KR representatives. So... Violet, Attero, and KawaiiRice earned spots based on merit regionally. Just because Korea is better doesn't make qualifying from NA less valid, if there is a specific NA qualifier.


Wait so why did the merit argument work when NASL offered to pay for Korean's trips to NASL finals?


We DIDNT do that, which is why they didn't play in Season 2. We gave every player the same deal O_O


But you said you offered to pay part of it, Take said he would pay a little bit if it was in his budget so what's the difference? Besides the fact that the Koreans didn't pull out.


The difference is EVERYONE got the same offer... How can you not understand that?

Here, 2 Koreans are getting their trips paid... but only 1 from the other regional qualifiers are getting paid. It's a very clear distinction.

I totally understand that it feels unfair to you. And it is unfair, big tournaments shouldn't treat participants differently like this.

However, your average big tournament would have just been without the second Korean. Take is more awesome than that and goes along exceeding his budget to pay his trip. No other tournament would do that. See it as a bonus to the fans and community. It's no secret certain Korean teams are struggling financially and would never afford to send a player to this.

In the end, two Koreans are better than one. Take gets two where other tournaments would have gotten one, which means Take is awesome and life is unfair.
SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
December 18 2011 21:40 GMT
#1636
Man those games are boring and awesome at the same time, they have so much patience but wonder if that is because they lack the hability to play any cooler
Trance music makes the fairys dance
Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
December 18 2011 21:53 GMT
#1637
http://memegenerator.net/instance/12398233

Check that link out, :D

This is epic.
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FaCeful
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
December 18 2011 21:57 GMT
#1638
[url=http://imgur.com/4Vaex][img]http://i.imgur.com/OEhg1.png[/url][/img]



my thoughts on the senery we saw in the break before dimaga vs feast.
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
December 18 2011 21:58 GMT
#1639
best players in the world. lol.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 18 2011 22:09 GMT
#1640
So can Attero's flight be paid for then?
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