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On December 03 2011 20:25 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:24 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 1ManArmy wrote:On December 03 2011 20:11 DoubleDouble wrote:
korean terrans are on an entirely different level than foreign terrans. i dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing but it's depressing to me. The only foreign terrans that could change this in my opinion are guys like Thorzain,Demuslim and Jinro. At the other side, we have some sick foreign protosses and zergs  Maybe Thorzain but he's not particularly consistent and seems to really struggle with Z. Jinro's stuck in the Code B wilderness and given the amount of stupidly good players there are still kicking around there I'm not sure if he'll be able to break back through. Demuslim is definitely not close. Foreign Terrans just don't stack up for whatever reason, our toss and zerg are much closer to their KR counterparts. I don't think thorzain can do it. He did pretty well in his time in korea but his record wasn't anything close to code S standard. I think he will be a code A player in korea if he stayed there.
the sad thing is, he's the perfect player to get to the finals. his preparation is un fucking real
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On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D
Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good.
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On December 03 2011 20:21 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:19 1ManArmy wrote:On December 03 2011 20:11 DoubleDouble wrote:
korean terrans are on an entirely different level than foreign terrans. i dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing but it's depressing to me. The only foreign terrans that could change this in my opinion are guys like Thorzain,Demuslim and Jinro. At the other side, we have some sick foreign protosses and zergs Jinro's been in Korea for over a year now. Why the hell hasn't he gotten back into Code A yet.
Because he was not playing good at all.
But i'm talking about the longhaul. Those guys could actually become really good foreign terrans who can make a splash versus koreans. And i'm sure that there will show up some new players in 2012 who could surprise us all
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I know a Terran is awesome when they make me root for them over their Zerg opponent.
MVP has done it, MMA has done it, and now Jjakji has done it. He was just so fucking on the ball with damn near everything. Really inspiring play.
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Just remembered something neat related to this game; Jjakji all-killed FXO in the team league earlier this year.
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On December 03 2011 20:26 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good.
He said that? Got a link?
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Is there a link to the VODS?
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On December 03 2011 20:31 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:26 poorcloud wrote:On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good. He said that? Got a link?
It was after he beat Mana 3-0 in NASL lol
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On December 03 2011 20:31 Scribble wrote:
Just remembered something neat related to this game; Jjakji all-killed FXO in the team league earlier this year.
Wasn't it Sage ? With the epic game 1 on tal'darim, phoenix zealot style.
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New Star HoSeo fightning!!
Jjakji fightning!
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On December 03 2011 20:33 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:31 Scribble wrote:
Just remembered something neat related to this game; Jjakji all-killed FXO in the team league earlier this year. Wasn't it Sage ? With the epic game 1 on tal'darim, phoenix zealot style.
Jjakji all killed FXO
Sage all killed fOu
they were seperate entities at the time
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On December 03 2011 20:31 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:26 poorcloud wrote:On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good. He said that? Got a link?
Haha yeah, I don't have a link but he said he wasn't getting any better, he was just getting depressed because it was impossible to beat Sage
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On December 03 2011 20:33 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:31 Scribble wrote:
Just remembered something neat related to this game; Jjakji all-killed FXO in the team league earlier this year. Wasn't it Sage ? With the epic game 1 on tal'darim, phoenix zealot style.
Jjakji also had an all-kill. vs FXO.
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On December 03 2011 20:31 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:26 poorcloud wrote:On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good. He said that? Got a link?
Yeah I saw it live too, his interview after his nasl ro16 vs mana. He said Sage is impossible to beat (well, imo it's like Naniwa saying Lucky or check is better than Nestea, but that means something still)
He said Sage always 2 base time attack him and it's super hard to defend, so he was confident against that but Mana didn't dplay like that.
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On December 03 2011 20:34 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:33 MrCon wrote:On December 03 2011 20:31 Scribble wrote:
Just remembered something neat related to this game; Jjakji all-killed FXO in the team league earlier this year. Wasn't it Sage ? With the epic game 1 on tal'darim, phoenix zealot style. Jjakji all killed FXO Sage all killed fOu they were seperate entities at the time
On December 03 2011 20:34 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:33 MrCon wrote:On December 03 2011 20:31 Scribble wrote:
Just remembered something neat related to this game; Jjakji all-killed FXO in the team league earlier this year. Wasn't it Sage ? With the epic game 1 on tal'darim, phoenix zealot style. Jjakji also had an all-kill. vs FXO.
Oh, true yes, thanks =)
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No he all killed FXO, I think Hack also all killed them for Zenex but not sure.
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On December 03 2011 20:35 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:31 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:26 poorcloud wrote:On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good. He said that? Got a link? Yeah I saw it live too, his interview after his nasl ro16 vs mana. He said Sage is impossible to beat (well, imo it's like Naniwa saying Lucky or check is better than Nestea, but that means something still) He said Sage always 2 base time attack him and it's super hard to defend, so he was confident against that but Mana didn't dplay like that.
Sage has always been known for his godly PvZ, average PvT and out of this world terrible PvP though. Check and Lucky were just the people nani got to play, they're not known for anything.
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On December 03 2011 20:37 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:35 MrCon wrote:On December 03 2011 20:31 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:26 poorcloud wrote:On December 03 2011 20:25 Poopi wrote:On December 03 2011 20:20 mordk wrote:On December 03 2011 20:19 pdd wrote:On December 03 2011 20:17 niteReloaded wrote:On December 03 2011 20:14 tomwizz wrote:
I hope one day we will have a foreigner go to kiss that trophy on stage.
that will be legend. With 12 GSL titles a year, (seriously way too much) I would be disappointed if a foreigner didn't win a single title in 2012. With Naniwa, Idra, Huk, Sase, Demuslim(?) and Morrow competing, I'm expecting that title. There are less than 12 GSLs. They take breaks. This one is GSL #7 for 2011. If you count WC and Super Tournament, there were only 9 GSLs this year. I think a foreigner will NEVER win the GSL. Koreans with preparation time are too godly. This is why foreigners look competitive on MLGs and such tournaments, but when koreans are prepared foreigners just can't beat them. Foreigners look competitive in MLG because most of the top koreans are in the open bracket honestly. We will see with the format change. And I don't see how a foreigner could win a GSL since there are twice as more koreans who are as good or better than the foreign ones in the GSL :s. But I think that a foreigner in ro4 is very possible, in the final it may but winning it I don't think so. MorroW looks scary tho, I didn't see the games between him and MaNa but 3-0ing him is not easy task, he should be a total monster after being in korea for several months :D Well morrow says its impossible to beat sage in practice. So hes certainly very far back right now but practicing with guys like sage will only do him good. He said that? Got a link? Yeah I saw it live too, his interview after his nasl ro16 vs mana. He said Sage is impossible to beat (well, imo it's like Naniwa saying Lucky or check is better than Nestea, but that means something still) He said Sage always 2 base time attack him and it's super hard to defend, so he was confident against that but Mana didn't dplay like that. Sage has always been known for his godly PvZ, average PvT and out of this world terrible PvP though. Check and Lucky were just the people nani got to play, they're not known for anything.
Yea Checks entire ZvP for the last 8 months has been "Oops I got the wrong comp, guess Ill go counter attack."
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whoaaaaaaaaa what? I thought Leenock had this for sure ._______.
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Wow so Sage and Jjakji, both from NsHs, dismantled the two teams which formed modern day FXO.
That's something.
FXO is really quite a fascinating story. Woah, i had no idea Wolf's name was actually Wolf. Herp.
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