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Dalnor
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia68 Posts
December 04 2011 08:15 GMT
#4201
Congrats Jjakji . I name him 'The Overlord Hunter'
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
December 04 2011 08:56 GMT
#4202
God I'm already addicted to thoses games, it's hard to stand TvZ without OV hunt and baneling mines :'(
I hope I will see some before the next GSL season...
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 04 2011 09:06 GMT
#4203
It seems like despite being the best finals to date (in my opinion) it's had one of the shortest GSL final threads
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
December 04 2011 09:23 GMT
#4204
In terms of the quality of the games, this has really been the best GSL finals so far. But what disappointed me about it was that it didn't seem to capture that electric feeling of a full and totally stoked audience. I felt like MMA vs MVP caught something of that "live sports" feeling that this finals didn't. I don't know if that's all there was to it, but to me that finals really felt like something special. By comparison, this one felt like a really good series of games and that's all.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
December 04 2011 09:41 GMT
#4205
On December 04 2011 05:28 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 05:15 chenchen wrote:
The way that Jjaki moves his army, times his attacks and expands, pulls away small groups of units (not just a medivac with 8 marines) to deny expansions, controls space with bunkers and depots, and has singular marines all over the map to spot counter attacks and mutas makes him a stronger TvZ player than either MVP or MMA right now.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here ... he's had one absolutely phenomenal showing against Leenock, but that's pretty much it so far as far as high-end tournaments go.

Nevertheless, I hope to see him catapult into Top 5 Terran status at least. (And I hope to see his overlord-hunting technique become a standard in the game.) I haven't been so impressed with someone's play like this since boxer's years and years and years ago.

fyp!
ineq
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden376 Posts
December 04 2011 11:14 GMT
#4206
On December 04 2011 18:23 neutralrobot wrote:
In terms of the quality of the games, this has really been the best GSL finals so far. But what disappointed me about it was that it didn't seem to capture that electric feeling of a full and totally stoked audience. I felt like MMA vs MVP caught something of that "live sports" feeling that this finals didn't. I don't know if that's all there was to it, but to me that finals really felt like something special. By comparison, this one felt like a really good series of games and that's all.



MMA vs. MVP took place during blizzcon, at blizzcon. Can't compare.
HerO - iNcontroL - DeMusliM - TaeJa - JaeDong
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
December 04 2011 11:28 GMT
#4207
On December 04 2011 18:23 neutralrobot wrote:
In terms of the quality of the games, this has really been the best GSL finals so far. But what disappointed me about it was that it didn't seem to capture that electric feeling of a full and totally stoked audience. I felt like MMA vs MVP caught something of that "live sports" feeling that this finals didn't. I don't know if that's all there was to it, but to me that finals really felt like something special. By comparison, this one felt like a really good series of games and that's all.

As the above poster said the last finals took place during Blizzcon which is a huge event.
Since this finals didn't have one of the huge fan-favorites(Mvp, NesTea, MMA, MC) in it I don't think people looked forward to it as much. There wasn't any Kpop pre-game show, the audience seemed smaller(although that might be wrong?) and the LR thread on TL is much shorter than the other finals. The LR thread of the last season's finals was almost a hundred pages longer, which to me shows that people were less interested in this finals.

Oh well... It's their loss. Leenock vs Jjakji was freaking awesome anyways.
What a player
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 04 2011 11:30 GMT
#4208
On December 04 2011 20:14 ineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 18:23 neutralrobot wrote:
In terms of the quality of the games, this has really been the best GSL finals so far. But what disappointed me about it was that it didn't seem to capture that electric feeling of a full and totally stoked audience. I felt like MMA vs MVP caught something of that "live sports" feeling that this finals didn't. I don't know if that's all there was to it, but to me that finals really felt like something special. By comparison, this one felt like a really good series of games and that's all.



MMA vs. MVP took place during blizzcon, at blizzcon. Can't compare.


Its like comparing a super bowl half-time show to a show at a large theater.
Never make a hydralisk.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
December 04 2011 11:42 GMT
#4209
It's possible that one of these players may one day become dominant - those watching the GSL at this moment may one day recall this series with fondness!
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
December 04 2011 13:04 GMT
#4210
Just watched the entire series. By far the most impressive GSL Finals since MKP vs. Nestea in GSL Finals Season 2, but the games being overall more complex and sophisticated. The atmosphere of the stage was mediocre compared to the GSL FInals October, but this November finals the one I would recommend over any other finals.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
December 04 2011 13:52 GMT
#4211
The subterranian zerg. I love that nickname for leenock.

Best GSL finals ever (not exactly a difficult thing to accomplish but still, awesome)
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 04 2011 17:09 GMT
#4212
People citing MKP/Nestea as a good series really I think have their blinders on. 1 game was over 20 minutes and 6 games were 12-13 minutes. Time is not a good measure of a great game, but EVERY game was a 2rax cheese (which would start the 2rax heydey in season 3) or a roach/bane all-in by Nestea. Only decent game to even re-watch in that is Steppes of War (maybe Lost Temple).

It was only a good final because of really the major moments of emotion from MKP (and the fact that, by numbers, it was a 4-3). MMA vs MVP was a much better series in terms of actual skill.

That being said. Wow, for Leenock and Jjakji, easily best series for a gsl final ever.
the farm ends here
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
December 04 2011 17:35 GMT
#4213
On December 05 2011 02:09 PartyBiscuit wrote:
People citing MKP/Nestea as a good series really I think have their blinders on. 1 game was over 20 minutes and 6 games were 12-13 minutes. Time is not a good measure of a great game, but EVERY game was a 2rax cheese (which would start the 2rax heydey in season 3) or a roach/bane all-in by Nestea. Only decent game to even re-watch in that is Steppes of War (maybe Lost Temple).

It was only a good final because of really the major moments of emotion from MKP (and the fact that, by numbers, it was a 4-3). MMA vs MVP was a much better series in terms of actual skill.

That being said. Wow, for Leenock and Jjakji, easily best series for a gsl final ever.


You probably didn't watch them live at the time.
It's about relative to skill at the time it was played, and it was a fantastic series
SooYoung-Noona!
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 04 2011 22:24 GMT
#4214
On December 05 2011 02:35 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 02:09 PartyBiscuit wrote:
People citing MKP/Nestea as a good series really I think have their blinders on. 1 game was over 20 minutes and 6 games were 12-13 minutes. Time is not a good measure of a great game, but EVERY game was a 2rax cheese (which would start the 2rax heydey in season 3) or a roach/bane all-in by Nestea. Only decent game to even re-watch in that is Steppes of War (maybe Lost Temple).

It was only a good final because of really the major moments of emotion from MKP (and the fact that, by numbers, it was a 4-3). MMA vs MVP was a much better series in terms of actual skill.

That being said. Wow, for Leenock and Jjakji, easily best series for a gsl final ever.


You probably didn't watch them live at the time.
It's about relative to skill at the time it was played, and it was a fantastic series

Only going to reply once in this so it doesn't get derailed anymore but it's pretty presumptuous to say I never watched it live since my whole comment implies that I obviously did...almost my whole set of 4k posts are in LR threads from Sept to the early this summer. Regarding 'relative skill' at the time, the series before it with Kyrix in the quarters and MVP/Zenio were actual demonstrations in skill at the time since it changed TvZ meta with splits. The finals only introduced 2rax to the masses (and Rain) - and you can go read the LR thread for GSL 2 to read the heavy whines about the finals.
the farm ends here
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
December 05 2011 15:54 GMT
#4215
Just finished watching the series, this really is the best GSL final ever.
+ Show Spoiler +
Leenock fighting, u are the winner in my heart, my favorite zerg
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 07 2011 08:49 GMT
#4216
got a pass just to watch vods of these finals ... god, finally a finals that was worth every penny!
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
December 07 2011 18:36 GMT
#4217
On December 05 2011 07:24 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 02:35 ffadicted wrote:
On December 05 2011 02:09 PartyBiscuit wrote:
People citing MKP/Nestea as a good series really I think have their blinders on. 1 game was over 20 minutes and 6 games were 12-13 minutes. Time is not a good measure of a great game, but EVERY game was a 2rax cheese (which would start the 2rax heydey in season 3) or a roach/bane all-in by Nestea. Only decent game to even re-watch in that is Steppes of War (maybe Lost Temple).

It was only a good final because of really the major moments of emotion from MKP (and the fact that, by numbers, it was a 4-3). MMA vs MVP was a much better series in terms of actual skill.

That being said. Wow, for Leenock and Jjakji, easily best series for a gsl final ever.


You probably didn't watch them live at the time.
It's about relative to skill at the time it was played, and it was a fantastic series

Only going to reply once in this so it doesn't get derailed anymore but it's pretty presumptuous to say I never watched it live since my whole comment implies that I obviously did...almost my whole set of 4k posts are in LR threads from Sept to the early this summer. Regarding 'relative skill' at the time, the series before it with Kyrix in the quarters and MVP/Zenio were actual demonstrations in skill at the time since it changed TvZ meta with splits. The finals only introduced 2rax to the masses (and Rain) - and you can go read the LR thread for GSL 2 to read the heavy whines about the finals.

Total stop fighting people :D
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13017 Posts
December 07 2011 18:41 GMT
#4218
On December 05 2011 02:09 PartyBiscuit wrote:
People citing MKP/Nestea as a good series really I think have their blinders on. 1 game was over 20 minutes and 6 games were 12-13 minutes. Time is not a good measure of a great game, but EVERY game was a 2rax cheese (which would start the 2rax heydey in season 3) or a roach/bane all-in by Nestea. Only decent game to even re-watch in that is Steppes of War (maybe Lost Temple).

It was only a good final because of really the major moments of emotion from MKP (and the fact that, by numbers, it was a 4-3). MMA vs MVP was a much better series in terms of actual skill.

That being said. Wow, for Leenock and Jjakji, easily best series for a gsl final ever.

I think that with the maps available and the fact that the game was so young, MKP vs NesTea was still a very good final for its time. Nothing comparable to recent series in terms of skill of course, but it was still a good final
WriterMaru
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