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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 28 2011 12:57 GMT
#3541
On November 28 2011 21:53 GhostFall wrote:
So with MMA we got the Terran Prince, or Little emporer

Would Leenock then be the Demigod of War?

Doesn't quite have a ring to it.


Prince of War.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 28 2011 12:57 GMT
#3542
On November 28 2011 21:54 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:50 Dodgin wrote:
Let's come back down to earth guys, the series was a 3-2 not a 3-0 and it could have gone either way. Leenock is obviously great but it takes time and consistancy to be labeled " the best " MVP is the best because he has been placing well in every tournament he has entered in recent time.


MVP only won those 2 games not because hes better than Leenock but because Leenock let him win..

MVP's first win was because Leenock lost to many infestors to single thor, he was very ahead in that game and he let MVP back in the game with that.. and MVP's other win was because Leenock decided he wanted to finish the series and tried to do a roach baneling all in which didn't work. In a standard game on a standard map, Leenock will win everytime.. His MLG run was not a fluke, he didn't fluke against Boxer, MMA, Idra, Huk, DRG, MVP and Naniwa.


That's great, I am not dissagreeing with your reasoning or that he is a good player. I could make up excuses as to why MVP lost his games too. He's not " the best player " yet, sorry. I have no problem letting him be the best player if he is capable of placing well for months.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 28 2011 12:57 GMT
#3543
Wow, wtf, jjiajki and Leenock, really ? Leenock, not that big of an upset, but still I thought Mvp got this, but Jjiajki ? Really ? Who would have bet a penny on this guy before Ro32 ? If he wins it all, it would be the biggest upset in GSL history
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
November 28 2011 12:57 GMT
#3544
On November 28 2011 21:54 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:50 Dodgin wrote:
Let's come back down to earth guys, the series was a 3-2 not a 3-0 and it could have gone either way. Leenock is obviously great but it takes time and consistancy to be labeled " the best " MVP is the best because he has been placing well in every tournament he has entered in recent time.


MVP only won those 2 games not because hes better than Leenock but because Leenock let him win..

MVP's first win was because Leenock lost to many infestors to single thor, he was very ahead in that game and he let MVP back in the game with that.. and MVP's other win was because Leenock decided he wanted to finish the series and tried to do a roach baneling all in which didn't work. In a standard game on a standard map, Leenock will win everytime.. His MLG run was not a fluke, he didn't fluke against Boxer, MMA, Idra, Huk, DRG, MVP and Naniwa.


the fact of the matter is, he still won and the series was close

mvp has way more consistent results, so until leenock does the same he can't be on the same platform

idk why you're trying to push your opinion so hard, you have your opinion, just stay with it. wide majority of people recognize mvp as #1, you're not gonna convince them otherwise until either he falls off his consistency, or someone else catches up. neither of which seems to be coming any time soon.
IMMvp #1 :)
Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
November 28 2011 12:58 GMT
#3545
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...

Ooooooor the broodwar diehards could just stop getting so pissy and accept that it means something else in a different game.
Lose its good, after will be win.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
November 28 2011 12:59 GMT
#3546
In mma or boxing if you lose to someone you lose your rank to them.. MVP has lost twice now to Leenock but he doesn't lose his rank as #1? I think most of you are in denial right now.. MVP was outplayed by Leenock in MLG and GSL.. lets face it.
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
November 28 2011 12:59 GMT
#3547
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...


At providence they asked Leenock if he thinks him winning the tournament at the age of 16 could be compared to flash doing something similar at that age. He said he shouldn't be compared to flash at this point (or ever?). So I think if he heard someone say "bonjwa!" in the same sentence as his name he would respond the same way.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 28 2011 12:59 GMT
#3548
Leenock = First SC2 Bonjour
Replice
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 13:02:04
November 28 2011 12:59 GMT
#3549
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...


No they havent, they only want it to mean what it actully does.

A player how has been dominant over a long period of time, 1 year or longer. Up until now the only players who has been close to that is mvp, mc or nestea, and those still have a long time to go for it.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 28 2011 13:01 GMT
#3550
On November 28 2011 21:59 Beren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...


At providence they asked Leenock if he thinks him winning the tournament at the age of 16 could be compared to flash doing something similar at that age. He said he shouldn't be compared to flash at this point (or ever?). So I think if he heard someone say "bonjwa!" in the same sentence as his name he would respond the same way.


It is not right to compare me to Flash,” said Leenock. “He has dominated for so long and I have just started.”

“If I try hard, I will probably do what Flash has done.”
Play your best
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 28 2011 13:02 GMT
#3551
On November 28 2011 21:59 SuperFanBoy wrote:
In mma or boxing if you lose to someone you lose your rank to them.. MVP has lost twice now to Leenock but he doesn't lose his rank as #1? I think most of you are in denial right now.. MVP was outplayed by Leenock in MLG and GSL.. lets face it.


I'll be sure to stop by the Broodwar forums next time Flash loses a game, and say that he is no longer God and the best BW player of all time.

That is what you're suggesting.
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
November 28 2011 13:02 GMT
#3552
On November 28 2011 21:58 Jesushooves wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...

Ooooooor the broodwar diehards could just stop getting so pissy and accept that it means something else in a different game.


That's so much bullshit. I didn't even play Brood War but it's so obvious that people like you that are relatively new to starcraft have no clue wtf you're talking about. It's a different game, okay. What the fuck does that have to do with overusing and misusing a word? It's still the same culture of gaming. There's a history to starcraft and people overusing the word bonjwa are ruining it.

A word doesn't just change meaning because it's a new game, but it does change when people say it so much in the wrong context to the point that it has no meaning whatsoever. Leenock is a bonjwa!? Lol....there's nothing wrong with getting 'pissy' over stupidity.
Cramsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1100 Posts
November 28 2011 13:02 GMT
#3553
On November 28 2011 21:59 SuperFanBoy wrote:
In mma or boxing if you lose to someone you lose your rank to them.. MVP has lost twice now to Leenock but he doesn't lose his rank as #1? I think most of you are in denial right now.. MVP was outplayed by Leenock in MLG and GSL.. lets face it.


Alright, after Leenock wins more than 3 GSL's without MVP getting anywhere near it, then I'll 'face it'


"give me 20 minutes and I'll make them quiet" - MVP
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 28 2011 13:03 GMT
#3554
SuperFanBoy is such a troll, rofl
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
November 28 2011 13:03 GMT
#3555
On November 28 2011 21:59 SuperFanBoy wrote:
In mma or boxing if you lose to someone you lose your rank to them.. MVP has lost twice now to Leenock but he doesn't lose his rank as #1? I think most of you are in denial right now.. MVP was outplayed by Leenock in MLG and GSL.. lets face it.


You get the title, you don't get to surpass them in number of titles. Just because his came last doesn't make it worth 10 titles. Besides, this isn't MMA or boxing, which are two of the most corrupt sports anyway.

If Mark Sanchez wins two games against Tom Brady, does he suddenly become the best of all time? It comes from being consistent and beating a variety of people.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 28 2011 13:03 GMT
#3556
On November 28 2011 22:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:59 SuperFanBoy wrote:
In mma or boxing if you lose to someone you lose your rank to them.. MVP has lost twice now to Leenock but he doesn't lose his rank as #1? I think most of you are in denial right now.. MVP was outplayed by Leenock in MLG and GSL.. lets face it.


I'll be sure to stop by the Broodwar forums next time Flash loses a game, and say that he is no longer God and the best BW player of all time.

That is what you're suggesting.


You won't make it back if you try that
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 28 2011 13:03 GMT
#3557
Why the hell did MVP lowered those supply depots?
Was he trying to retreat his army?
moo...for DRG
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
November 28 2011 13:03 GMT
#3558
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...

I know it's only a joke, but I really like the feel of Banjo :p
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 28 2011 13:04 GMT
#3559
On November 28 2011 21:58 Jesushooves wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 21:54 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:52 Jesushooves wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:51 bittman wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:42 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:38 zaii wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:35 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Leenock is #1 in the world! Leenock will win this GSL, and the next 2 GSL's and claim bonjwa status!


don't you fucking dare to say the b word bro.


bonjwa, ?


THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

my god people know what the damn word means.


wanna explain it to me?


it means "shut the fuck up it will take you years to dethrone me"

Eg:(Z)sAviOr the only true Bonjwa

Flash is different,he is god.


We need a shorter term for "best player in the world currently" because way too much status has been put in a word that means nothing to anyone except Brood War diehards.

Taking alternative word suggestions here on Team Liquid =P

Bonjwa has a nice ring to it.


It does, but Brood War fans get up in arms everysingletimeitcomesupinatopic because they've raised the term to a height that's actually unachievable anymore.

So to stop wasteful posts of "bonjwa! / omg you dont know what the word means" which happens in every. single. goddam. thread....we need a new word...

Ooooooor the broodwar diehards could just stop getting so pissy and accept that it means something else in a different game.


Uh... It doesn't mean anything else. What else does it mean? Should it be applied to anyone who looks like he's about to win two events in a row? No. If you misuse such a word, BW fans will call you out on it.

That said, some BW fans do put too much weight into the word Bonjwa. In Korea, it's not really widely used, and only really applied retrospectively to savior and a few other people.
memes are a dish best served dank
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 28 2011 13:05 GMT
#3560
Why Leenock why? This is starting to feel like when Flash rose to cockblock JD. T_T
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