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Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2361
On November 26 2011 23:25 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 23:18 deathzz wrote:
well to be fair to puma(even though i dont rly like his style), let's decide whether he is a top 5 or not a top 5 terran after he gets in the gsl since he got a seeding together with idra right? as of now comparing gsl accomplishments with mlg/hsc/dh/wadever wun cut it.


What's funny is that people say that GSL > foreign tournaments because they involve a lot of player specific preparation, yet bash a player because he can't get into Code A. Do people realize what kind of tournament the Code A qualifier is...?

There is a big difference between saying PuMa is not top 3/5 Terran and saying he is bad for qualifying for code A. Personally I think both groups of people who say that are idiots. Right now I can probably name 15+ Terrans who I strongly think are better than PuMa and maybe another 10 who I think are probably better, but I haven't seen PuMa play against players of their level to be sure. The thing about PuMa is he is better than almost all foreigners, but he mostly loses to the top Koreans. Sure he can take a game off most players, but that doesn't make him better, and until we see him play against code A and bottom code S players we can't be sure where he lies in the gap between 'better than most white people' and 'worse than best players'.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2362
Poor Seiplo, played a great game, but you just can't play without observers in any matchup really.
It appears I have been chosen.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2363
GG!!! LiquidHerO fighting!!!
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2364

@TeamLiquidLIVE
TL Live Report
Nerchio made roaches, Ret made mutas, Nerchio killed the third, Ret killed the main. 1-0 for Ret.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2365
That's not lucky. That's the other player playing risky.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2366
how can you not have a robo at that stage
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 26 2011 14:30 GMT
#2367
Too greedy by Seiplo ~~ I knew it'd bite him in the ass eventually.
#freeshauni
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2368
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/dreamhackTV2
Ret vs Nerchio
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2369
Seiplo's PvP does look quite impressive, but got greedy without even a forge. Well read from HerO.
Nick3
Profile Joined March 2011
513 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2370
Outplaying Hero and losing because of stupid decision to not get any detection. Why does so many toss fail with that?
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2371
Now, you will pay for your lack of vision!
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2372
Hell yes Her0 good composure, lets go game 2 :D
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2373
THANK YOU SOO MUCH FOR THE SOLO CASTING TLO! THANK YOU!! RET FIGHTING!@!
C r u m b l i n g
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2374
Such PvP are really fun to watch I must admit.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2375
I wish Z had DT

It's like a free win 10% of the time when you are losing if your opponent is being greedy.
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2376
can't bs a bs'er. cant dt a dt'er :D
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2377
How can seiplo be said to outplay hero if hero outsmarted and outcontrolled him?
I think day9 is being too favoured towards seiplo here.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 14:32:08
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2378
On November 26 2011 23:22 StarStruck wrote:
Quintum it's called being realistic.

He's very good, but I wouldn't consider him one of the top pro's yet. There is a lot of division between the players.

PuMa finishes just outside that top group.


I quote an earlier post


On November 26 2011 23:05 BronzeKnee wrote:

He beat Losira then Bomber last MLG and ended up losing to Idra last MLG. In Orlando he took out Polt. At Guangzhou, he took out JYP before losing to Idra. At Raleigh he beat Nada in Pool Play. And he knocked out Alive and Clide in NASL Open, before beating Squirtle, July and MC in the finals, and also beat MC in the finals of Cologne.

He beats a lot of good Koreans in foreign tournaments.


Ya that is very lackuster set of names he beat right there >.>, while i am not saying he is better then some of those names mentioned sans MVP and MMA they have done nothing definitive to put them ahead of puma. So i stand by my point that puma is up there with the pack.
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Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2379
TLO + Sheth casting Nerchio vs Ret ? wat
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2380
TLO and Sheth casting Ret vs Nerchio !!!

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/dreamhackTV2
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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