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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3601
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches


he's german
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3602
On November 26 2011 03:25 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:25 hifriend wrote:
protoss air is fucking pathetic t_t


after that early game anything is pathetic

I know he was dead, but seeing roughly the same supply corruptors against voidray/phoenix which never happens reminded me of just how bad protoss air really is.
imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3603
On November 26 2011 03:27 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:22 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:20 oogieogie wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:17 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:14 oogieogie wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:11 Logros wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

It's the reason why so many players are just doing 2 base all-ins lately in PvZ.

and mostly winning from those 2 base all-ins.


Got any stats for that little gem?

...Didn't think so.

MLG? The only time i can even remember a 2 base protoss all in not work vs a zerg was DRG when it was like super late. MLG games.


Ah. So, no stats at all. Just "i can even remember" anecdotal evidence. The best kind of evidence.

Wow, Sase and Day[9] both seem to be dying on stream...

you said name some stats i went with MLG providence basically because of how many games there were protoss 2 base all ins vs zerg.


you know what a stat is ?
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3604
If Sase and Select both win their next game with 2-1 we will have a 3-way tie with equal scores.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3605
On November 26 2011 03:25 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:22 Mythito wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:21 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:21 Mythito wrote:
wish casters would stop saying literally :'(


it's literally annoying!


right after i say that they say it 4 times.. i lose a little respect for day9 every single time


lose respect? really?


Don't take things so literally
actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3606
anyone else getting a black screen on the apollo TB stream? Occasionally i will get a frozen picture, then back to black. Sometimes i can hear then for a second too. Dont know what wrong with it. Reloading does not fix it, nore pausing and starting again. Comercials still happen> My day9 mr.bitter and tastosis stream working great on 720. i have my TB one at 480, nothin. Anyone have a fix? or has it been doin this for awhile now?
It rained today inside my head...
Exactable
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia263 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3607
If Select > Nerchio and Sase > DaBoo it's going to be wierd.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3608
On November 26 2011 03:27 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:22 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:20 oogieogie wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:17 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:14 oogieogie wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:11 Logros wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

It's the reason why so many players are just doing 2 base all-ins lately in PvZ.

and mostly winning from those 2 base all-ins.


Got any stats for that little gem?

...Didn't think so.

MLG? The only time i can even remember a 2 base protoss all in not work vs a zerg was DRG when it was like super late. MLG games.


Ah. So, no stats at all. Just "i can even remember" anecdotal evidence. The best kind of evidence.

Wow, Sase and Day[9] both seem to be dying on stream...

you said name some stats i went with MLG providence basically because of how many games there were protoss 2 base all ins vs zerg.

He asked you to cite stats, not tournament names. Basically he wants you to have numbers in your post.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 25 2011 18:28 GMT
#3609
On November 26 2011 03:27 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches

I pray to god this was a joke.


you shall never know
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
November 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#3610
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches

<3


SaSe fail with the forcefield costs him the game
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:29:40
November 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#3611
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches


who is french?mondi?and if you meant nerchio then it failed as well or i didnt get the joke
lol
mondragon is german and nerchio polish
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:29:50
November 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#3612
edit im wrong
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
November 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#3613
On November 26 2011 03:28 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:27 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches

I pray to god this was a joke.


you shall never know


isnt Nerchio from US team?
oh in the sun sun having fun
imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
November 25 2011 18:30 GMT
#3614
On November 26 2011 03:29 mijagi182 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:28 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:27 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches

I pray to god this was a joke.


you shall never know


isnt Nerchio from US team?


next year maybe :D
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#3615
On November 26 2011 03:27 oogieogie wrote:
you said name some stats i went with MLG providence basically because of how many games there were protoss 2 base all ins vs zerg.


Except you didn't even give statistics. You just said "at MLG providence I saw lots of 2base all-ins in PvZ succeed." That sentence does not qualify as a statistic, unfortunately. If you want to believe that 2base all-ins are really successful in PvZ in tournament play then fine, but don't pretend to have statistics when you really just have anecdotal evidence.

Anyway, I'm pretty disappointed in both Hero vs DRG and Sase vs Nerchio. I expected close matches in both, but they were both one-sided and depressing.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#3616
On November 26 2011 03:28 actionbastrd wrote:
anyone else getting a black screen on the apollo TB stream? Occasionally i will get a frozen picture, then back to black. Sometimes i can hear then for a second too. Dont know what wrong with it. Reloading does not fix it, nore pausing and starting again. Comercials still happen> My day9 mr.bitter and tastosis stream working great on 720. i have my TB one at 480, nothin. Anyone have a fix? or has it been doin this for awhile now?


same problem...
The Real Power~
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
November 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#3617
Anyone else surprised about elfi going 0-2? I know his opponents are great, but I was expecting him to take a game at the least. Haven't seen the games myself, where they close or is he just not good enough today?
PallasAthena
Profile Joined September 2010
114 Posts
November 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#3618
Hmm...
Carmac was right. The casters are becoming bigger stars than the players themselves. It's definitely not good for the scene.

Do they really have to introduce who they are everytime they cut out/in from commercial?

"I'M DAY9, I'M MR BITTER!, I'M ARTOSIS, I'M TASTELESS!"

We know who you are man. We have been following you since broodwar/GSL/MLG/etc. every tournament. We know who you are and what you look like. You do not need to remind us every chance you get.

On top of that the camera is always on them. Yes it is nice to see them when they have something to say but I feel they need to split that camera time 50/50 with the players. I'm sorry I'm more interested in what Nerchio looks/sounds like. I don't know anything about the guy besides that he's a beast.

This is not a hate post, if anything it's just a rant from a person who loves to watch starcraft (guess what, I don't even play this game. I play League of Legends but would rather see a Starcraft II tournament over LoL tournament ANY DAY).


P.S. This is why Homestory Cup will be the greatest tournament ever until they adopt their style of player and viewer interaction.
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
November 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#3619
after the next matches tune in to some great Quake Live Duel action since sc2 is on break
http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackql
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#3620
On November 26 2011 03:30 imr.e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:29 mijagi182 wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:28 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:27 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:27 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:25 SmoKim wrote:
Nerchio learned from Mondragon

Roaches > Air


those french zergs and their roaches

I pray to god this was a joke.


you shall never know


isnt Nerchio from US team?


next year maybe :D

And then he will suddenly be acknowledged as being one of the best zergs.
Off-season = best season
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