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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 25 2011 18:12 GMT
#3521
On November 26 2011 03:09 mataxp wrote:
and mass mutas wins the game... again...


Because mass blink stalkers or mass marines have never won a game
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 25 2011 18:12 GMT
#3522
crowds so small
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3523
On November 26 2011 03:10 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:09 mataxp wrote:
and mass mutas wins the game... again...

You seem to be surprised ;>.

Doubt anyone who has played PvZ during the last month or two would be surprised
mataxp
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Chile538 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:13:16
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3524
On November 26 2011 03:10 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:09 mataxp wrote:
and mass mutas wins the game... again...

You seem to be surprised ;>.


so many bad memories fighting againts mass mutas... it seems that 9/10 of my pvz's are like that, thats because 6 gate all in seems to work quite well atm
Liquid.Hero Startale.Bomber MVP.Dongraegu
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3525
On November 26 2011 03:11 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

It's the reason why so many players are just doing 2 base all-ins lately in PvZ.


You mean since months?
No Protoss, probably besides Hero, feels comfortable going into a Macro game against Zerg.
Bit sad D:
wat
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3526
On November 26 2011 03:12 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:09 mataxp wrote:
and mass mutas wins the game... again...


Because mass blink stalkers or mass marines have never won a game


When was the last time mass marine won a game? GSL open season 2 with MKP?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3527
wow line em up select
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3528
On November 26 2011 03:11 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

It's the reason why so many players are just doing 2 base all-ins lately in PvZ.

Exactly this. A well timed gate/robo or pure gate timing will destroy spire play, but once the zerg has popped those 10 mutas you're out of options. Especially if you've given them opportunity to use a lot of larva on lings.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3529
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

Timing push and punish them just like terran does when zerg is going muta. Once muta's are up and running it gets seriously difficult. That or just forge fe into phoenix play.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3530
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

State of the Game-brotoss consensus this week seemed to be: Scout the spire? Attack before he can use them (reference: nani vs nestea)
imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3531
On November 26 2011 03:13 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:12 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:09 mataxp wrote:
and mass mutas wins the game... again...


Because mass blink stalkers or mass marines have never won a game


When was the last time mass marine won a game? GSL open season 2 with MKP?


bomber playing against a foreigner Z (sheth I think)
FrozenFrog
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore133 Posts
November 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#3532
Day9 sounds worn out
d(-.-)b
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 25 2011 18:14 GMT
#3533
On November 26 2011 03:13 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:11 Logros wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

It's the reason why so many players are just doing 2 base all-ins lately in PvZ.


You mean since months?
No Protoss, probably besides Hero, feels comfortable going into a Macro game against Zerg.
Bit sad D:

Well it kinda died down but since muta's became so popular again it's used a lot more.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
November 25 2011 18:14 GMT
#3534
I want see WhiteRa! >.<
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 25 2011 18:14 GMT
#3535
On November 26 2011 03:11 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:10 sealpuncher wrote:
This is exactly what's making my zvp record terrible since I hit masters. Not a balance complaint I just don't know what you're supposed to do against this.

It's the reason why so many players are just doing 2 base all-ins lately in PvZ.

and mostly winning from those 2 base all-ins.
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
November 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#3536
On November 26 2011 03:13 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:12 Kira__ wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:09 mataxp wrote:
and mass mutas wins the game... again...


Because mass blink stalkers or mass marines have never won a game


When was the last time mass marine won a game? GSL open season 2 with MKP?


one of gumiho's tvz during wcg korea
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
November 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#3537
On November 26 2011 03:14 Welmu wrote:
I want see WhiteRa! >.<


gz on joining empire!
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#3538
noooo -.-
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
November 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#3539
Just found out that today is Kas birthday, he is 23 now.
Happy Bithday
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
November 25 2011 18:15 GMT
#3540
lol sase lost 2 probes hahaha.
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