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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 25 2011 17:35 GMT
#3341
On November 26 2011 02:30 mijagi182 wrote:
so many games were played at the event and im yet to so see Nerchio or MaNas game, even there are 3 streams available something is wrong seriously...


MaNa hasn't played yet and Nerchio was playing a rather unknown player last match, and with the cast time going to 2 groups and group F being very stacked, it's understandable that he doesn't get much air time unfortunately
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 25 2011 17:35 GMT
#3342
DRG with some sick micro
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
November 25 2011 17:35 GMT
#3343
On November 26 2011 02:29 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 02:25 doko100 wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:23 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:20 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:18 Cyro wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:17 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:15 Bro_Stone wrote:
Apparently 6g is not all in after all lol...


it would have been if select teched, but the reason 6g is considered allin is because of delaying tech, medivacs destroy protoss gateway without aoe support, but since both players delayed tech for larger armies sentry zealot crushed selects force



No, it wouldnt have been, because he threw down double forge and twilight council for charge before he attacked and then instant templar archives when it finished


and select had a factory and starport down with double ebays....whats youre point, it happened after the attack which happened after the 10min mark...when sase goes colossus or zealot archon he has his tech buildings in place anywhere from 8-10min and stays defensive to hold agression


I don't think it was double ebay for Select. If it was he was using them very stupidly; he only did one upgrade at a time. And also he got his single ebay way later than Sase's double forge. With chrono, he would barely be on 1-1 when Sase was on 2-2 (if the forges weren't sniped.)


but you can't know that, if you see a 6 gate attack outside your natural you can't just go double ebay because you need medivac tech, but if the protoss just decides to tech and not attack you are behind in either tech or upgrades. fake 6 gate is almost loss/loss for terran unless you get a perfect read on your opponent and find the right timing to punish him.


My point wasn't that Select should've done something differently. I was just stating that he wasn't doing double ebay as the post before me stated. He chose the greedy, mineralbased fast third approach and thus he had to be pretty assuming with his defense (pulling scv alot against a fake all-in isn't that good for you)


It's not even greedy since he built 4 bunkers. Playing against a 6 gate as terran is quite possibly just the hardest thing in the game, if you just get a slight misread on your opponent you outright lose the game. It really isn't that simple, the only way select could have won was fast medivac tech off 2 base with ghosts, but you can't know that.

If the protoss attacks you with 6 gate you die when you tech too much, if he doesn't and techs and you don't you are behind in tech, if he doesn't attack and goes double forge and you don't go double ebay you are behind in upgrades, if he gets a third and you stay on 2 base there's a chance hell get way ahead in economy... it's just extremely hard for terran to play against 6 gate because you don't know if it's an all-in or not and there are so many different things you can do wrong. It's pretty much loss/loss for terran, there is no way to confirm what exactly the protoss is up to. You have to guess and be lucky.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#3344
Nerchio vs SaSe coming up on Day9 + bitter's stram
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
alistarnl
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands144 Posts
November 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#3345
DaBo0 the black belt ji-jutsu european champion starcraft 2 player. Lets do thissssssssssss!
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
November 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#3346
On November 26 2011 02:31 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 02:29 Presidenten wrote:
Don't know if this has already been posted, but this is an interview with WHITE-RA's WIFE!

http://svtplay.se/v/2616899/hon_hanger_med_pa_spelturne

That's pretty cool, thanks for posting !


Someone playing Skyrim by the looks of it. Go to largest LAN event, loads of competitive games to watch and play and some dude loads up Skyrim lol.
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 25 2011 17:38 GMT
#3347
nothing but lings so far for DRG. Mutas where are thou?
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 17:39:52
November 25 2011 17:39 GMT
#3348
I'm worried for HerO here

On November 26 2011 02:38 WaSa wrote:
nothing but lings so far for DRG. Mutas where are thou?


12 being made now
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
November 25 2011 17:39 GMT
#3349
pretty wierd pvz
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
November 25 2011 17:39 GMT
#3350
What is hero doing >.<
MR KING
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden145 Posts
November 25 2011 17:39 GMT
#3351
PRODUCTION BARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Wherewolf
Profile Joined December 2010
United States353 Posts
November 25 2011 17:40 GMT
#3352
11:00
+1 Zealots and Phoenixes attacking DRG's 3rd, +1 armor finishes for DRG during the battle.
DRG cleans it up eventually.

12:00
Spire starts, DRG harassing HerO as he tries to kill the rocks the the third

13:30
HTs picked off as they warp in, DRG up 115 supply to 79.
HerO can't take his third, constant ling pressure.

14:30
Archon and zealots are up, but 12 mutas are on the way.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
November 25 2011 17:40 GMT
#3353
DRG owning it up right now.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
November 25 2011 17:40 GMT
#3354
TB and Apollo stream is black for me, anyone else got this problem?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 25 2011 17:40 GMT
#3355
On November 26 2011 02:35 doko100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 02:29 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:25 doko100 wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:23 Zzzapper wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:20 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:18 Cyro wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:17 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:15 Bro_Stone wrote:
Apparently 6g is not all in after all lol...


it would have been if select teched, but the reason 6g is considered allin is because of delaying tech, medivacs destroy protoss gateway without aoe support, but since both players delayed tech for larger armies sentry zealot crushed selects force



No, it wouldnt have been, because he threw down double forge and twilight council for charge before he attacked and then instant templar archives when it finished


and select had a factory and starport down with double ebays....whats youre point, it happened after the attack which happened after the 10min mark...when sase goes colossus or zealot archon he has his tech buildings in place anywhere from 8-10min and stays defensive to hold agression


I don't think it was double ebay for Select. If it was he was using them very stupidly; he only did one upgrade at a time. And also he got his single ebay way later than Sase's double forge. With chrono, he would barely be on 1-1 when Sase was on 2-2 (if the forges weren't sniped.)


but you can't know that, if you see a 6 gate attack outside your natural you can't just go double ebay because you need medivac tech, but if the protoss just decides to tech and not attack you are behind in either tech or upgrades. fake 6 gate is almost loss/loss for terran unless you get a perfect read on your opponent and find the right timing to punish him.


My point wasn't that Select should've done something differently. I was just stating that he wasn't doing double ebay as the post before me stated. He chose the greedy, mineralbased fast third approach and thus he had to be pretty assuming with his defense (pulling scv alot against a fake all-in isn't that good for you)


It's not even greedy since he built 4 bunkers. Playing against a 6 gate as terran is quite possibly just the hardest thing in the game, if you just get a slight misread on your opponent you outright lose the game. It really isn't that simple, the only way select could have won was fast medivac tech off 2 base with ghosts, but you can't know that.

If the protoss attacks you with 6 gate you die when you tech too much, if he doesn't and techs and you don't you are behind in tech, if he doesn't attack and goes double forge and you don't go double ebay you are behind in upgrades, if he gets a third and you stay on 2 base there's a chance hell get way ahead in economy... it's just extremely hard for terran to play against 6 gate because you don't know if it's an all-in or not and there are so many different things you can do wrong. It's pretty much loss/loss for terran, there is no way to confirm what exactly the protoss is up to. You have to guess and be lucky.


And you were saying earlier than only Protosses complain..
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 17:42:41
November 25 2011 17:41 GMT
#3356
On November 26 2011 02:36 Hierarch wrote:
Nerchio vs SaSe coming up on Day9 + bitter's stram


Finally! Come on Nerchio!

edit: You're in Europe now Day9 it's ok.
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
November 25 2011 17:41 GMT
#3357
On November 26 2011 02:35 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 02:30 mijagi182 wrote:
so many games were played at the event and im yet to so see Nerchio or MaNas game, even there are 3 streams available something is wrong seriously...


MaNa hasn't played yet and Nerchio was playing a rather unknown player last match, and with the cast time going to 2 groups and group F being very stacked, it's understandable that he doesn't get much air time unfortunately


that was the same for Day 1 - no MaNa or Nerchios game. Fortunately today Nerchio has to play swede so theres hope
oh in the sun sun having fun
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 25 2011 17:41 GMT
#3358
HerO's pretty dead.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 25 2011 17:42 GMT
#3359
BBQ doesnt describe the atrocity being committed on DH2
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 25 2011 17:42 GMT
#3360
Hero so annihilated Oo
The Real Power~
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