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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
In addition leave the usual out of this topic:
-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions
Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
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On November 26 2011 02:30 mijagi182 wrote:
so many games were played at the event and im yet to so see Nerchio or MaNas game, even there are 3 streams available something is wrong seriously...
MaNa hasn't played yet and Nerchio was playing a rather unknown player last match, and with the cast time going to 2 groups and group F being very stacked, it's understandable that he doesn't get much air time unfortunately
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On November 26 2011 02:29 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:25 doko100 wrote:On November 26 2011 02:23 Zzzapper wrote:On November 26 2011 02:20 Badfatpanda wrote:On November 26 2011 02:18 Cyro wrote:On November 26 2011 02:17 Badfatpanda wrote:On November 26 2011 02:15 Bro_Stone wrote:
Apparently 6g is not all in after all lol... it would have been if select teched, but the reason 6g is considered allin is because of delaying tech, medivacs destroy protoss gateway without aoe support, but since both players delayed tech for larger armies sentry zealot crushed selects force No, it wouldnt have been, because he threw down double forge and twilight council for charge before he attacked and then instant templar archives when it finished and select had a factory and starport down with double ebays....whats youre point, it happened after the attack which happened after the 10min mark...when sase goes colossus or zealot archon he has his tech buildings in place anywhere from 8-10min and stays defensive to hold agression I don't think it was double ebay for Select. If it was he was using them very stupidly; he only did one upgrade at a time. And also he got his single ebay way later than Sase's double forge. With chrono, he would barely be on 1-1 when Sase was on 2-2 (if the forges weren't sniped.) but you can't know that, if you see a 6 gate attack outside your natural you can't just go double ebay because you need medivac tech, but if the protoss just decides to tech and not attack you are behind in either tech or upgrades. fake 6 gate is almost loss/loss for terran unless you get a perfect read on your opponent and find the right timing to punish him. My point wasn't that Select should've done something differently. I was just stating that he wasn't doing double ebay as the post before me stated. He chose the greedy, mineralbased fast third approach and thus he had to be pretty assuming with his defense (pulling scv alot against a fake all-in isn't that good for you)
It's not even greedy since he built 4 bunkers. Playing against a 6 gate as terran is quite possibly just the hardest thing in the game, if you just get a slight misread on your opponent you outright lose the game. It really isn't that simple, the only way select could have won was fast medivac tech off 2 base with ghosts, but you can't know that.
If the protoss attacks you with 6 gate you die when you tech too much, if he doesn't and techs and you don't you are behind in tech, if he doesn't attack and goes double forge and you don't go double ebay you are behind in upgrades, if he gets a third and you stay on 2 base there's a chance hell get way ahead in economy... it's just extremely hard for terran to play against 6 gate because you don't know if it's an all-in or not and there are so many different things you can do wrong. It's pretty much loss/loss for terran, there is no way to confirm what exactly the protoss is up to. You have to guess and be lucky.
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Nerchio vs SaSe coming up on Day9 + bitter's stram
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DaBo0 the black belt ji-jutsu european champion starcraft 2 player. Lets do thissssssssssss! 
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On November 26 2011 02:31 Fyzar wrote:That's pretty cool, thanks for posting  !
Someone playing Skyrim by the looks of it. Go to largest LAN event, loads of competitive games to watch and play and some dude loads up Skyrim lol.
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nothing but lings so far for DRG. Mutas where are thou?
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I'm worried for HerO here 
On November 26 2011 02:38 WaSa wrote:
nothing but lings so far for DRG. Mutas where are thou?
12 being made now
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PRODUCTION BARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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11:00
+1 Zealots and Phoenixes attacking DRG's 3rd, +1 armor finishes for DRG during the battle.
DRG cleans it up eventually.
12:00
Spire starts, DRG harassing HerO as he tries to kill the rocks the the third
13:30
HTs picked off as they warp in, DRG up 115 supply to 79.
HerO can't take his third, constant ling pressure.
14:30
Archon and zealots are up, but 12 mutas are on the way.
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DRG owning it up right now.
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TB and Apollo stream is black for me, anyone else got this problem?
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On November 26 2011 02:35 doko100 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:29 Zzzapper wrote:On November 26 2011 02:25 doko100 wrote:On November 26 2011 02:23 Zzzapper wrote:On November 26 2011 02:20 Badfatpanda wrote:On November 26 2011 02:18 Cyro wrote:On November 26 2011 02:17 Badfatpanda wrote:On November 26 2011 02:15 Bro_Stone wrote:
Apparently 6g is not all in after all lol... it would have been if select teched, but the reason 6g is considered allin is because of delaying tech, medivacs destroy protoss gateway without aoe support, but since both players delayed tech for larger armies sentry zealot crushed selects force No, it wouldnt have been, because he threw down double forge and twilight council for charge before he attacked and then instant templar archives when it finished and select had a factory and starport down with double ebays....whats youre point, it happened after the attack which happened after the 10min mark...when sase goes colossus or zealot archon he has his tech buildings in place anywhere from 8-10min and stays defensive to hold agression I don't think it was double ebay for Select. If it was he was using them very stupidly; he only did one upgrade at a time. And also he got his single ebay way later than Sase's double forge. With chrono, he would barely be on 1-1 when Sase was on 2-2 (if the forges weren't sniped.) but you can't know that, if you see a 6 gate attack outside your natural you can't just go double ebay because you need medivac tech, but if the protoss just decides to tech and not attack you are behind in either tech or upgrades. fake 6 gate is almost loss/loss for terran unless you get a perfect read on your opponent and find the right timing to punish him. My point wasn't that Select should've done something differently. I was just stating that he wasn't doing double ebay as the post before me stated. He chose the greedy, mineralbased fast third approach and thus he had to be pretty assuming with his defense (pulling scv alot against a fake all-in isn't that good for you) It's not even greedy since he built 4 bunkers. Playing against a 6 gate as terran is quite possibly just the hardest thing in the game, if you just get a slight misread on your opponent you outright lose the game. It really isn't that simple, the only way select could have won was fast medivac tech off 2 base with ghosts, but you can't know that. If the protoss attacks you with 6 gate you die when you tech too much, if he doesn't and techs and you don't you are behind in tech, if he doesn't attack and goes double forge and you don't go double ebay you are behind in upgrades, if he gets a third and you stay on 2 base there's a chance hell get way ahead in economy... it's just extremely hard for terran to play against 6 gate because you don't know if it's an all-in or not and there are so many different things you can do wrong. It's pretty much loss/loss for terran, there is no way to confirm what exactly the protoss is up to. You have to guess and be lucky.
And you were saying earlier than only Protosses complain..
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On November 26 2011 02:36 Hierarch wrote:
Nerchio vs SaSe coming up on Day9 + bitter's stram
Finally! Come on Nerchio!
edit: You're in Europe now Day9 it's ok.
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On November 26 2011 02:35 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:30 mijagi182 wrote:
so many games were played at the event and im yet to so see Nerchio or MaNas game, even there are 3 streams available something is wrong seriously... MaNa hasn't played yet and Nerchio was playing a rather unknown player last match, and with the cast time going to 2 groups and group F being very stacked, it's understandable that he doesn't get much air time unfortunately
that was the same for Day 1 - no MaNa or Nerchios game. Fortunately today Nerchio has to play swede so theres hope
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BBQ doesnt describe the atrocity being committed on DH2
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EPT
