EPTDreamHack Winter 2011 Day 2 - Page 149
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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment. In addition leave the usual out of this topic: -Balance complaints -Map complaints -Stream complaints -Caster/player bashing -Off topic discussions Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage! | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:18 Poisonblack wrote: idra was kinda expected with Huk and Puma in the group This. Had IdrA been in any other group, he probably would've advanced. But he got thrown into group | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:19 Taktik wrote: Hi i just come back from work. Could someone tell me when the next games will be played and are games in group E has been already played? And wow IdrA, ThorZaIN and Stephano ( 1-6 wtf?! ) are out O_o Looks like Stephano is not the best zerg of Europe after all he lost to Goody in semis (Battle for Berlin) and now he is out in 2nd day... Schedule | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
Morrow with his IEM win -> downhill from there and ultimately switched to zerg. SjoW had an incredibly dominant period peaking with an IEM -> randomly falls out of tournaments to no name players at this point Jinro was considered one of the best terrans in the world, made top 4 in GSL twice (I think?), then suddenly started playing like shit and hasn't come close to his former play ever since. Thorzain steamrolled TSL like a motherfucking boss, but now he's hardly even a contender for good placements at big tournaments anymore. | ||
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shockaslim
United States1104 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:18 s3183529 wrote: why is everyone rooting against DRG and hero? I am gonna say its because they are Korean? | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:13 Coolhwip wrote: This is not a balance discussion thread. Take your whining elsewhere. this not a balance discussion its more like community whining the majority of the community is like "when protoss lose they whine until they get buffed when protoss win, its all about the skills" not really discussing FF imba, upgrade super cheap, gateway so strong, etc etc at least not yet to get there | ||
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Taktik
Poland680 Posts
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:18 AlternativeEgo wrote: And Select has a fierce TvP. It will - hopefully - be great.  im begging you to tell where will this be casted ? | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:20 shockaslim wrote: I am gonna say its because they are Korean? Americans did not go by that logic in the finals of MLG. And who is rooting against Hero? Show him to me cause we need to talk. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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gh0un
601 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:10 ceaRshaf wrote: But when protoss players said they were UP and terrans OP the community had facts to talk about and whine balance was with arguments. Now all I see from terrans or zergs is " force field OP"and i am like WTF? I dont see whats wrong with the "force field OP" whine. Forget race balance for a sec and just focus on force fields. The last few weeks we saw several players flat out lose to a warp prism sentry drop because a protoss manages to sneak that warp prism into the main base and forcefields the ramp. It happened to other protosses who didnt have blink yet, it happens to terrans, it happens to zergs. The least vulnerable race to that kind of bullshit is probably terran because they usually go for medivacs anyways, but all 3 races died to that bullshit in one way or another. Forcefield is a very strong spell, and i would never want to engage in an argument about whether they are imba or not, because you just cant estimate their strength properly, given that the enemy can choose to not engage, try to bait forcefields, try to get a better concave and whatnot. The enemy can do SOMETHING to lower their strength. Forcefielding the enemy ramp however just feels incredibly broken to me, given that the risk of it not working is losing a SINGLE warp prism full of units (or even as less as a single sentry), while the reward is having an infinite amount of units in your enemies main base due to warp in. If you succesfully get the forcefield on the ramp, warp in more sentries and lock the ramp down, badgame. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:20 Vertical wrote: this not a balance discussion its more like community whining the majority of the community is like "when protoss lose they whine until they get buffed when protoss win, its all about the skills" not really discussing FF imba, upgrade super cheap, gateway so strong, etc etc at least not yet to get there You're right, Protoss players are the only ones who complain... | ||
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Nick3
513 Posts
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s3183529
Australia707 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:19 Taktik wrote: Hi i just come back from work. Could someone tell me when the next games will be played and are games in group E has been already played? And wow IdrA, ThorZaIN and Stephano ( 1-6 wtf?! ) are out O_o Looks like Stephano is not the best zerg of Europe after all he lost to Goody in semis (Battle for Berlin) and now he is out in 2nd day... Why is it neccesary to choose the best players just by how they play 1/2 events?? >_> Overall people tend to focus way too much on power ranking players. Anyway, there's a break now as far as I recall they'll do the next games in like 30-45 minutes. | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:17 doko100 wrote: Protoss players never got banned for complaining, so if they now ban terran players for complaining it just proves my point that this community is bias towards protoss. Make up your mind, you either allow everyone to complain, or nobody at all. You can't just allow protoss players to constantly complain and ban everyone else. oh please...go to any live report from when protoss were slumping and I bet youll find just as many terran and zerg whinging. Yeh they made the sad zealot fanclub more to gather protoss and hope someone came along, that thread now has gone to hell and it is full of balance whines, but msot of them came from Zergs and Terrans coming in and stirring the pot looking for a reaction. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:20 hifriend wrote: Anyone else seeing a weird trend of swedish terrans owning it up then forever slumping? Morrow with his IEM win -> downhill from there and ultimately switched to zerg. SjoW had an incredibly dominant period peaking with an IEM -> randomly falls out of tournaments to no name players at this point Jinro was considered one of the best terrans in the world, made top 4 in GSL twice (I think?), then suddenly started playing like shit and hasn't come close to his former play ever since. Thorzain steamrolled TSL like a motherfucking boss, but now he's hardly even a contender for good placements at big tournaments anymore. Scary pattern. Our Protoss is looking good tho. Looking forward to see how Seiplo will develop. | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
Are VODS available? I'd love to watch them, willing to pay. If anyone could point me in the right direction, It would be much appreciated. | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:22 ceaRshaf wrote: Americans did not go by that logic in the finals of MLG. And who is rooting against Hero? Show him to me cause we need to talk. How can you root against leenock? He's soooo cuteeee. Anyways, looking forward to watching Send and Drg play. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On November 26 2011 01:19 Taktik wrote: Hi i just come back from work. Could someone tell me when the next games will be played and are games in group E has been already played? And wow IdrA, ThorZaIN and Stephano ( 1-6 wtf?! ) are out O_o Looks like Stephano is not the best zerg of Europe after all he lost to Goody in semis (Battle for Berlin) and now he is out in 2nd day... So Nerchio is the best ? ^^ Tis was really a bad day for Stephano, he maybe wasn't prepared but wtf vs Sheth he didn't cancel his hacherys two times !!!! I never saw him doing things like that, he maybe was asleep or/and slightly drunk by the party he had yersteday xD Btw if he keeps preparing tourneys by ladderind 2h every 2 days he won't go far, comon stehano you have such a great potential but you're so lazy TT | ||
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