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vse
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1 Post
November 16 2011 20:12 GMT
#1521
the outcome was different then what i expect
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
November 16 2011 20:45 GMT
#1522
can someome please tell me when we are going to see SC1 best active players come to SC2 and GSL?

The game really needs a boost , heart of the swarm will help and less terrans too . ( i play terran too! )

I really dont like to see favourites loosing so badly ( MKP , MC, Nestea, huk , happy ) , people expect them to win and play the semis or final and have a real chance of winning .. Sometimes looks like a gold league game...

Mvp is going to win again , he really is better than everyone and i doubt mma can win again .. Rarely panics (almost never) , knows every build possible , best micro / macro, very consistent , always prepared for his opponents , and the best of all other players are afraid of playing him ( play worse than they can really )
ja foste
parad0x
Profile Joined September 2008
United States52 Posts
November 16 2011 21:07 GMT
#1523
No more GSL til next week? What am I going to do with my nights????
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
November 16 2011 21:15 GMT
#1524
On November 17 2011 06:07 parad0x wrote:
No more GSL til next week? What am I going to do with my nights????


Play SC2 with me! :D
Sleeperz
Profile Joined October 2011
12 Posts
November 16 2011 21:22 GMT
#1525
On November 17 2011 03:19 Bandino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 02:44 FabledIntegral wrote:
LRs aren't linked properly

Also guys, Tasteless has NEVER been a good caster really, if you've heard him cast. He adds no analysis, and often when he tries to explain things, he extrapolates on his BW knowledge that often is not directly comparable to SC2. His commentary kills me. Just the other day he said "this player took the gold, which actually provides double the amount of minerals as blue patches, so expect his income to skyrocket."

WTF. There are just SO many wrong things he says, it ruins it for me. I've never liked Tasteless' casting, even since GSL season 1.

Whoever Day9 casted with 2 MLG's ago was the best combo I've heard, I don't remember who it was, maybe Husky. I'm bad with knowing their names.


Ya the K[9] combo of Husky and Day9 was incredible, I really think they are the best casting duo at this moment


I agree Day9 & Husky are an excellent casting combo, especially the mlg matches they have casted together. One thing that really stood out for me is what Husky does when he casts with Day9 when certain things are happening in the game. Like when players are starting to choose their tech, or player responses.. (just a couple of examples of something that could be happening)

He notices things like that he will commentate on what he(and the viewers) are seeing but will (sometimes) turn it into a question for Day9, who will then go on to explain why he thinks the player has decided to go that route/make that decision etc etc.

Brilliant... its like "well, I'm gonna be casting with someone who probably has a better understanding of the game than I do at present so I'm gonna approach things this way, and this way"

He really stepped up to live tournament casting. I also feel that Husky has a better understanding of the game now since he casted with Day9 and got that live experience.

They are also both very charismatic people who helps a bunch of course!
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
November 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#1526
Damnnnn, in MC vs Ganzi, it was definitely a poor choice for Ganzi to sack is army to kill MC's third, but holy shit did he have some of the sickest micro I've seen during the engagement.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#1527
On November 17 2011 02:31 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 02:19 Zeroxk wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:16 SeaSwift wrote:
So sad MC T_T

And I'm really sick of Tasteosis now. I'm sorry, but Tasteless' constant parroting and his obvious ignorance strikes me as shocking when he is supposed to be following the SC2 scene full-time. He couldn't name a single other Terran other than MVP/MMA, he always mimics Artosis and just doesn't add anything interesting to the casting. And Artosis has the good old problem of being heavily biased, which is fine if you have someone to play that off of (eg MrBitter and Rotterdam with Zerg vs Protoss) but if your co-caster just agrees with everything you say it is bad. I'm sorry Tasteosis, you were great in the early Seasons, but you just don't work for me any more.


Would you say they've...lost their pasion?


Oh come on, don´t be stupid. People can not like Tastosis. I really hate when people give criticism to the casters and people act as if it was a joke. This ¨lust their passion!!11!!¨ thing is now moronic, is tastosis now untouchable because of this stupid joke?

While I still like Tastosis one can´t deny that they (at least don´t show) don´t have much to say about the korean scene. compare it to the Coda A casters who before the match talk about the players, the metagame and stuff like that. Which is now rare with Tastosis.

I still like Tastosis, but they are not perfect lol.


Well you have to admit the code A casters got the better end of the deal. Not only do they cast earlier hours in korean time, but they also get the more entertaining games overall I feel.
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
November 16 2011 22:11 GMT
#1528
Glad to see sC is back in form after him being out for quite a while. Sad to see MC not make it though =/
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
November 16 2011 22:38 GMT
#1529
On November 17 2011 05:45 tapk69 wrote:
can someome please tell me when we are going to see SC1 best active players come to SC2 and GSL?

The game really needs a boost , heart of the swarm will help and less terrans too . ( i play terran too! )

I really dont like to see favourites loosing so badly ( MKP , MC, Nestea, huk , happy ) , people expect them to win and play the semis or final and have a real chance of winning .. Sometimes looks like a gold league game...

Mvp is going to win again , he really is better than everyone and i doubt mma can win again .. Rarely panics (almost never) , knows every build possible , best micro / macro, very consistent , always prepared for his opponents , and the best of all other players are afraid of playing him ( play worse than they can really )


The only guy you names people really expect do be a contender of those names was Nestea the others haven't exactly set themselves apart from the majority of the Koreans. And even MVP and Nestea have their weak moments from time to time. I doubt there will ever be a total dominant force. The purely alone won't win you games alone since most top players can at least kinda get close to the best players and there are just some Maps where certain MU's or buildorders will just straight up give an advantage to someone.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
November 16 2011 22:47 GMT
#1530
On November 17 2011 06:54 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 02:31 windsupernova wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:19 Zeroxk wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:16 SeaSwift wrote:
So sad MC T_T

And I'm really sick of Tasteosis now. I'm sorry, but Tasteless' constant parroting and his obvious ignorance strikes me as shocking when he is supposed to be following the SC2 scene full-time. He couldn't name a single other Terran other than MVP/MMA, he always mimics Artosis and just doesn't add anything interesting to the casting. And Artosis has the good old problem of being heavily biased, which is fine if you have someone to play that off of (eg MrBitter and Rotterdam with Zerg vs Protoss) but if your co-caster just agrees with everything you say it is bad. I'm sorry Tasteosis, you were great in the early Seasons, but you just don't work for me any more.


Would you say they've...lost their pasion?


Oh come on, don´t be stupid. People can not like Tastosis. I really hate when people give criticism to the casters and people act as if it was a joke. This ¨lust their passion!!11!!¨ thing is now moronic, is tastosis now untouchable because of this stupid joke?

While I still like Tastosis one can´t deny that they (at least don´t show) don´t have much to say about the korean scene. compare it to the Coda A casters who before the match talk about the players, the metagame and stuff like that. Which is now rare with Tastosis.

I still like Tastosis, but they are not perfect lol.


Well you have to admit the code A casters got the better end of the deal. Not only do they cast earlier hours in korean time, but they also get the more entertaining games overall I feel.


Well but tbh i feel the Code A guys overall know more about the scene in general. Artosis at least knows some of the newer players / strats outside of GSL . Tastless sadly most of the time doesn't contribute all that much of substance. I like Tasteless he's funny and has good chemestry wirth Artosis BUT he needs to work a big on his game knowledge , i mean it's his job .... Artosis doesn't know everything and makes plenty of mistakes it would be great if he could cover for that.
cold-
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada209 Posts
November 16 2011 23:00 GMT
#1531
On November 17 2011 07:47 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 06:54 Ysellian wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:31 windsupernova wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:19 Zeroxk wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:16 SeaSwift wrote:
So sad MC T_T

And I'm really sick of Tasteosis now. I'm sorry, but Tasteless' constant parroting and his obvious ignorance strikes me as shocking when he is supposed to be following the SC2 scene full-time. He couldn't name a single other Terran other than MVP/MMA, he always mimics Artosis and just doesn't add anything interesting to the casting. And Artosis has the good old problem of being heavily biased, which is fine if you have someone to play that off of (eg MrBitter and Rotterdam with Zerg vs Protoss) but if your co-caster just agrees with everything you say it is bad. I'm sorry Tasteosis, you were great in the early Seasons, but you just don't work for me any more.


Would you say they've...lost their pasion?


Oh come on, don´t be stupid. People can not like Tastosis. I really hate when people give criticism to the casters and people act as if it was a joke. This ¨lust their passion!!11!!¨ thing is now moronic, is tastosis now untouchable because of this stupid joke?

While I still like Tastosis one can´t deny that they (at least don´t show) don´t have much to say about the korean scene. compare it to the Coda A casters who before the match talk about the players, the metagame and stuff like that. Which is now rare with Tastosis.

I still like Tastosis, but they are not perfect lol.


Well you have to admit the code A casters got the better end of the deal. Not only do they cast earlier hours in korean time, but they also get the more entertaining games overall I feel.


Well but tbh i feel the Code A guys overall know more about the scene in general. Artosis at least knows some of the newer players / strats outside of GSL . Tastless sadly most of the time doesn't contribute all that much of substance. I like Tasteless he's funny and has good chemestry wirth Artosis BUT he needs to work a big on his game knowledge , i mean it's his job .... Artosis doesn't know everything and makes plenty of mistakes it would be great if he could cover for that.


so go to korea and do it. oh wait you can't? oh wait you don't want to? then sit tight and listen to tastosis
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 16 2011 23:16 GMT
#1532
On November 17 2011 03:12 Micket wrote:
It seems like balance patches do nothing to stop Terran dominance, but simply switch P and Z around in their respective matchups. Either that, or I'm completely dumb (the second one).

it's seems you look at the remaining races numbers to determine balance. GSL was so much terran heavy that it can't change in one season. You should watch winrates, the sample size is small, but it still inversed in regard of last seasons

Code S :
TvZ: 11-7 (61.1%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 3-3 (50%) [ Games ]
PvT: 12-5 (70.6%) [ Games ]

Code A :
TvZ: 3-4 (42.9%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 5-7 (41.7%) [ Games ]
PvT: 5-7 (41.7%) [ Games ]


s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
November 16 2011 23:29 GMT
#1533
On November 17 2011 08:00 cold- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:47 s3rp wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:54 Ysellian wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:31 windsupernova wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:19 Zeroxk wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:16 SeaSwift wrote:
So sad MC T_T

And I'm really sick of Tasteosis now. I'm sorry, but Tasteless' constant parroting and his obvious ignorance strikes me as shocking when he is supposed to be following the SC2 scene full-time. He couldn't name a single other Terran other than MVP/MMA, he always mimics Artosis and just doesn't add anything interesting to the casting. And Artosis has the good old problem of being heavily biased, which is fine if you have someone to play that off of (eg MrBitter and Rotterdam with Zerg vs Protoss) but if your co-caster just agrees with everything you say it is bad. I'm sorry Tasteosis, you were great in the early Seasons, but you just don't work for me any more.


Would you say they've...lost their pasion?


Oh come on, don´t be stupid. People can not like Tastosis. I really hate when people give criticism to the casters and people act as if it was a joke. This ¨lust their passion!!11!!¨ thing is now moronic, is tastosis now untouchable because of this stupid joke?

While I still like Tastosis one can´t deny that they (at least don´t show) don´t have much to say about the korean scene. compare it to the Coda A casters who before the match talk about the players, the metagame and stuff like that. Which is now rare with Tastosis.

I still like Tastosis, but they are not perfect lol.


Well you have to admit the code A casters got the better end of the deal. Not only do they cast earlier hours in korean time, but they also get the more entertaining games overall I feel.


Well but tbh i feel the Code A guys overall know more about the scene in general. Artosis at least knows some of the newer players / strats outside of GSL . Tastless sadly most of the time doesn't contribute all that much of substance. I like Tasteless he's funny and has good chemestry wirth Artosis BUT he needs to work a big on his game knowledge , i mean it's his job .... Artosis doesn't know everything and makes plenty of mistakes it would be great if he could cover for that.


so go to korea and do it. oh wait you can't? oh wait you don't want to? then sit tight and listen to tastosis


What kind of an argument is that ? I'm certainly not qualified to do so , i've rarely ever casted ( only 1-2 times and only in German ) and my spoken english wouldn't not be up to standards.

I just feel there's alot of room for improvement with Tastosis thats all and it would be nice see if they did .
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 16 2011 23:31 GMT
#1534
On November 17 2011 08:00 cold- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:47 s3rp wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:54 Ysellian wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:31 windsupernova wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:19 Zeroxk wrote:
On November 17 2011 02:16 SeaSwift wrote:
So sad MC T_T

And I'm really sick of Tasteosis now. I'm sorry, but Tasteless' constant parroting and his obvious ignorance strikes me as shocking when he is supposed to be following the SC2 scene full-time. He couldn't name a single other Terran other than MVP/MMA, he always mimics Artosis and just doesn't add anything interesting to the casting. And Artosis has the good old problem of being heavily biased, which is fine if you have someone to play that off of (eg MrBitter and Rotterdam with Zerg vs Protoss) but if your co-caster just agrees with everything you say it is bad. I'm sorry Tasteosis, you were great in the early Seasons, but you just don't work for me any more.


Would you say they've...lost their pasion?


Oh come on, don´t be stupid. People can not like Tastosis. I really hate when people give criticism to the casters and people act as if it was a joke. This ¨lust their passion!!11!!¨ thing is now moronic, is tastosis now untouchable because of this stupid joke?

While I still like Tastosis one can´t deny that they (at least don´t show) don´t have much to say about the korean scene. compare it to the Coda A casters who before the match talk about the players, the metagame and stuff like that. Which is now rare with Tastosis.

I still like Tastosis, but they are not perfect lol.


Well you have to admit the code A casters got the better end of the deal. Not only do they cast earlier hours in korean time, but they also get the more entertaining games overall I feel.


Well but tbh i feel the Code A guys overall know more about the scene in general. Artosis at least knows some of the newer players / strats outside of GSL . Tastless sadly most of the time doesn't contribute all that much of substance. I like Tasteless he's funny and has good chemestry wirth Artosis BUT he needs to work a big on his game knowledge , i mean it's his job .... Artosis doesn't know everything and makes plenty of mistakes it would be great if he could cover for that.


so go to korea and do it. oh wait you can't? oh wait you don't want to? then sit tight and listen to tastosis


Just because he can't do the same job doesn't revoke his right to criticize. You sound like my co-worker who can't handle her boss criticizing her poor work.
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
November 16 2011 23:39 GMT
#1535
I was really hoping to see GanZi vs. sC...

Meh. Maybe in MLG?
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
November 16 2011 23:43 GMT
#1536
On November 17 2011 04:32 noD wrote:
Wow mvp will win again ?

Puzzle taking this GSL with protoss buffs lol
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 16 2011 23:48 GMT
#1537
On November 17 2011 08:43 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 04:32 noD wrote:
Wow mvp will win again ?

Puzzle taking this GSL with protoss buffs lol

Oz !
He'll crush MMA, then the Jjakji or Puzzle semi will be a semi walkover, then he'll take his revenge against MVP for beating him 2-1 in the AOL.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
November 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#1538
If MVP can get his TvP down or the protoss just die off, he will easily win this final. I don't see any terran beating him with bio. Also, the few times he plays mech vs mech... He just understands it 10x better. Today he showed the power of PDD and more tank buffer in Mechanical vs Bio.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 17 2011 01:18 GMT
#1539
On November 17 2011 09:11 Razuik wrote:
If MVP can get his TvP down or the protoss just die off, he will easily win this final. I don't see any terran beating him with bio. Also, the few times he plays mech vs mech... He just understands it 10x better. Today he showed the power of PDD and more tank buffer in Mechanical vs Bio.


For once the stars are almost aligning to give us the same grand final in a row. MMA and MVP are respectively the scariest people in their side of the bracket, so we might see mech vs bio again in a grand final from the best Of the best
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
November 17 2011 01:22 GMT
#1540
So happy to see Puzzle and MVP advance, I'm hoping to see them play in the finals this season.
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