HuK replaces MC in ASUS ROG Stars Invite

On October 27 2011 08:03 headbus wrote:
Good news, more foreign presence in any tournament is good, especially when its the best foreigners we have to offer.

On October 27 2011 08:06 ThaZenith wrote:
EG 1/2

Ftw!

A little dissapointed there won't be another fated IdrA vs MC matchup, but I think I'll live if it means another awesome EG gets in.


MC was the only Korean.

On October 27 2011 08:21 exltus wrote:
OMG... i was looking for MC...not this lucker...

On October 27 2011 08:22 aderum wrote:


what lol? lucker, the man who just won MLG, beating MC? Stop trolling

On October 27 2011 08:46 iSometric wrote:
Aww. What a disappointment.

On October 27 2011 08:35 monXikk wrote:

You just described MC playstyle -_-

On October 27 2011 08:48 exltus wrote:

rofl...youre just fun as HUK than youre writinh this jokes, but you really dont know what about you are talking...watch some games and next you can say somethink...if willl huk against some player that havent got "clasic" playstile, but own tactic, uk will be in big problem...just w8 for turnament...you will see...I thik that HUK will end on Idra, because of mapcontrol...

On October 27 2011 08:48 exltus wrote:

rofl...youre just fun as HUK than youre writinh this jokes, but you really dont know what about you are talking...watch some games and next you can say somethink...if willl huk against some player that havent got "clasic" playstile, but own tactic, uk will be in big problem...just w8 for turnament...you will see...I thik that HUK will end on Idra, because of mapcontrol...

On October 27 2011 08:48 exltus wrote:

rofl...youre just fun as HUK than youre writinh this jokes, but you really dont know what about you are talking...watch some games and next you can say somethink...if willl huk against some player that havent got "clasic" playstile, but own tactic, uk will be in big problem...just w8 for turnament...you will see...I thik that HUK will end on Idra, because of mapcontrol...

On October 27 2011 08:53 Dodgin wrote:


I think you should learn english and you have no idea what you're talking about.

On October 27 2011 09:19 ZorBa.G wrote:


EXCUSE ME! How much of a low blow is that? He is from Czech Republic you idiot. What are you? 10 years old? GTFO you low life.

On October 27 2011 09:27 Odal wrote:


It's an English website and his post was almost unreadable.

On October 27 2011 09:02 iPho wrote:

I understood absolutely nothing you just said....
HuK ftw!

On October 27 2011 09:32 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
How exactly were ASUS planning to make a top foreigner tournament without inviting the most sucessful foreigner player?

On October 27 2011 09:47 msjakofsky wrote:


you mean stephano don't you ;> he can't be everywhere

On October 27 2011 09:51 Hall0wed wrote:
I don't know why HuK wasn't invited in the first place, should have been him over Elfi really.

Pretty sure HuK has more LAN wins than Stephano, plus HuK is in Code S and Stephano is not.

HuK is the most successful foreigner.

On October 27 2011 08:29 exltus wrote:

Y he played wery well but he is lucky in lot of games... he plays blindy...does not scout too mutch...he simple play that what he wanted at start and dont meather what is going for his oponent... but hes wining = he is lucky... may is it because he have op micro and game sence...but itill is it blindy...

On October 27 2011 10:18 msjakofsky wrote:


pretty sure Stephano won more money than Huk without even trying to enter the gsl in just 2 weeks, is 4-0 vs huk and has about as many tourney wins even if not all lan. but clearly huk is the most succesful foreigner.

or you're just biased huk fan. hmm i wonder which one is more true of the 2 statements

On October 27 2011 09:19 ZorBa.G wrote:


EXCUSE ME! How much of a low blow is that? He is from Czech Republic you idiot. What are you? 10 years old? GTFO you low life.

On October 27 2011 08:16 ImmortalTofu wrote:
Sad we wont get to see if mc's level truly is ready for code S, and wont get the traditional foreigner v Korea battle, but the invites all look awesome! Gl all!

On October 27 2011 10:18 msjakofsky wrote:


pretty sure Stephano won more money than Huk without even trying to enter the gsl in just 2 weeks, is 4-0 vs huk and has about as many tourney wins even if not all lan. but clearly huk is the most succesful foreigner.

or you're just biased huk fan. hmm i wonder which one is more true of the 2 statements

On October 27 2011 11:30 Skwid1g wrote:


Biased Huk fan? He is completely correct.

Huk is more successful. That is inarguable. You can say you think Stephano is better, but so far Huk has FAR more accomplishments.

On October 27 2011 11:42 msjakofsky wrote:
Sniper we don't know huk's or stephano's salaries and assumptions are not good arguments, that salary has not much to do with the debate either

On October 27 2011 11:45 Sniper937 wrote:


then neither does the tournament winnings.

unless you can somehow prove that tournament prize pool directly relates to higher tournament competition.

On October 27 2011 11:53 msjakofsky wrote:


what are you talking about? salary is not in direct immediate connection with performance. sponsors don't change salaries immediately after small periods. HuK would still earn well if he didn't win anything for 3 months, and Millenium recently outbid Col on Stephano so probably he earns well too...

the arguing was about who's more "succesful", and winnings is a way to determine that

not the only way, but certainly a way- that's why one shouldn't make statements like "huk's the most succesful". because there are more ways to decide.

On October 27 2011 11:58 Sniper937 wrote:


im using your logic. higher salary means sponsors want that player more. and they want that player more because he is better.


now please try to explain why you think higher tournament prize pool actually makes a player better, or more accomplished.

On October 27 2011 11:53 msjakofsky wrote:


what are you talking about? salary is not in direct immediate connection with performance. sponsors don't change salaries immediately after small periods. HuK would still earn well if he didn't win anything for 3 months, and Millenium recently outbid Col on Stephano so probably he earns well too...

the arguing was about who's more "succesful", and winnings is a way to determine that

not the only way, but certainly a way- that's why one shouldn't make statements like "huk's the most succesful". because there are more ways to decide.

On October 27 2011 11:59 Bullet wrote:
It's weird to say this, but this tournament got more difficult to win with a foreigner replacing a "top tier" korean. @_@ i like. ^^

On October 27 2011 12:06 red4ce wrote:


Winning$ is a terrible way to determine success because it scales horribly. Are you suggesting that Stephano's IPL win is equal to 6 MLG wins? I hope not. IPL3 and ESCW were huge wins for Stephano, but just because their prize money is bigger doesn't make them more prestigious than Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, etc.

On October 27 2011 12:08 double620 wrote:


I guess a lot of top players would tell you they prefer to playing huk, comparing to Mc.
List is long man. Players such as stephano, Idra, select, thorzain, sheth, Bomber, MVP (who says the game against Mc was the hardest game he had in the season even though he won and knocked Mc out Code S and said the games against Huk were easy to him), Sjow.

On October 27 2011 12:06 red4ce wrote:


Winning$ is a terrible way to determine success because it scales horribly. Are you suggesting that Stephano's IPL win is equal to 6 MLG wins? I hope not. IPL3 and ESCW were huge wins for Stephano, but just because their prize money is bigger doesn't make them more prestigious than Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, etc.

On October 27 2011 12:11 Sniper937 wrote:


dont bother trying to argue with him. he just doesnt get it.

On October 27 2011 12:13 msjakofsky wrote:


to me it seems you don't get what i'm saying, so really what's the point of stating this? you think if you agree with someone else you'll be right?

anyways, i'm off. good night

On October 27 2011 11:40 msjakofsky wrote:


Stephano's money won tells otherwise

it's a matter of view, prize money is a valid point of view, according to that, Stephano is more accomplished.

he said an absolute statement "huk is the most succesful foreigner" which is simply not true, not if you look at overall results, and not if you look at recent results either. i had a little trollish intent with the stephano argument but my point stands

On October 27 2011 10:18 msjakofsky wrote:


pretty sure Stephano won more money than Huk without even trying to enter the gsl in just 2 weeks, is 4-0 vs huk and has about as many tourney wins even if not all lan. but clearly huk is the most succesful foreigner.

or you're just biased huk fan. hmm i wonder which one is more true of the 2 statements

We apologize for removing one top-tier Protoss player and replacing him with the Protoss who beat him in the finals of the last MLG. We hope this doesn't affect the quality of the games.

On October 27 2011 10:18 msjakofsky wrote:


pretty sure Stephano won more money than Huk without even trying to enter the gsl in just 2 weeks, is 4-0 vs huk and has about as many tourney wins even if not all lan. but clearly huk is the most succesful foreigner.

or you're just biased huk fan. hmm i wonder which one is more true of the 2 statements

On October 27 2011 15:31 Jayrod wrote:
Korean flag next to HuK's name = no longer supporting this tournament. Good luck to the players though

On October 27 2011 07:59 Jehct wrote:
Kinda awesome actually. A lot of people in Korea think MC still hasn't stepped up his game to Code S level (notably Naniwa in Fuck Slasher) whereas Huk has really proved himself recently. <3 Huk! EG finals gogo.

On October 27 2011 07:57 StyLeD wrote:
Just as good!

On October 27 2011 12:04 msjakofsky wrote:


ok i'll try to explain.

if your mommy gives you 10 cents and you steal 5 cents from your kindergarten mates, you are a worse bully than your friend who gets 5 cents from his mommy but steals 10 cents. cuz the payoff of your performance is less. comprende?

to you EG paying a lot of money equals as succesful in starcraft? Machine probably gets more money from EG than Ret from TL and who's the more succesful player? Machine?

On October 27 2011 08:03 headbus wrote:
Good news, more foreign presence in any tournament is good, especially when its the best foreigners we have to offer.

On October 27 2011 19:14 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:


If you read the previous pages of the thread you're pretty much the only one defending this theory that Stephano has more major tournament wins than HuK. You want to believe that nice, but the way you're arguing and repeating yourself that leads me to believe you're just trying to troll.

Huk won DreamHack, HSC and MLG (wich was the most stacked one) all 3 of them stacked with top koreans , while Stephano won IPL (impressive win but according to most pros less stacked than MLG) plus ESWC (not a huge korean presence, only 2 and he only had to face one to get to the title). If yiou want to count the number of titles Stephano won lately (counting small online tournaments), yes Stephano won more while HuK is stuck on an easy tournament called GSL Code S.

Another similar example is MC vs MVP vs Nestea: Between those 3 MVP is the most sucessful in GSL runs, he also retains rank 1 on GSL rankings, however on money won in GSL it goes 1st Nestea 2nd MC 3rd MVP 4th Polt (because he won Super Tournament wich had the biggest prize pool)

And to add to the extras, HuK is interested in always improving to be the best sc2 player he can be while Stephano spend more of his "practice time" going to da bank!

On October 28 2011 00:27 Elean wrote:And since the players in the open bracket don't have a real chance in MLG, why would you count them ?

On October 28 2011 00:54 SeaSwift wrote:


This kind of undermines your post. TheStC came 3rd and came from the open bracket.

On October 27 2011 22:17 Mr Showtime wrote:


Not really so much when the push out the only Korean in it....... assuming you don't count select

On October 28 2011 01:17 Elean wrote:

Well, I thought theStc was the best proof of my point.
TheStC's run was way way way more impressive than Huk's, and yet he didn't win.

On October 27 2011 12:14 Sniper937 wrote:



oh, the irony.

On October 27 2011 12:22 Applesqt wrote:

Stephano has gotten 2 wins in 2 weeks, huk got 2 in 1 week against good players. Whenever Stephano played a code S player, except for huk he lost.