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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4521
On October 23 2011 09:11 GenesisX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:11 theBizness wrote:
Like anybody actually makes Ultras... what kind of question was that?


Dimaga

sen
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4522
is that the crackling upgrade for nestea? could be soo effective
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4523
well atleast nestea knows how to upgrade the zergling attack speed(cough idra)
Snusdosa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4524
Bad for any terran.


nope, just bad for terrans who aren't as good in macro games as their opponent
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4525
uhoh time for some ghosts. this is an epic game, makes up for everything
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4526
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
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On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
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On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:07 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

10:30


Nestea is finally able to leave his base by planting a spine on the low ground


11:30


turret of MVP finishes just in time because nestea parked outside MVP's main for a couple of seconds too long


12:10


Third and fourth base on the way for nestea

Contaminate on the third of MVP


13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones


16:00

MVP making two more command centres

Nestea getting burrow and an infestation pit


17:00


Nestea getting a hive and pathogen glands


17:40


100 drones for nestea


18:00


3/2 on the way for MVP

Nestea trying to deny the fourth of MVP


20:00


NESTEA IS GETTING ADRENAL GLANDS!

also greater spire and 3/2 upgrades
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4527
Nestea has sooooo much money banked. He's gonna transition to brood lords and transition HARD

There it is.
Daok
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany97 Posts
October 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#4528
On October 23 2011 09:11 GenesisX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:11 theBizness wrote:
Like anybody actually makes Ultras... what kind of question was that?


Dimaga


Who is this Dimaga, he doesnt sound like a smart guy.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4529
On October 23 2011 09:12 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:07 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

11:30


turret of MVP finishes just in time because nestea parked outside MVP's main for a couple of seconds too long


12:10


Third and fourth base on the way for nestea

Contaminate on the third of MVP


13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones


16:00

MVP making two more command centres

Nestea getting burrow and an infestation pit


17:00


Nestea getting a hive and pathogen glands


17:40


100 drones for nestea


18:00


3/2 on the way for MVP

Nestea trying to deny the fourth of MVP


20:00


NESTEA IS GETTING ADRENAL GLANDS!

also greater spire and 3/2 upgrades


20:30


Ghosts on the way for MVP
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4530
Mvp hasn't done any damage at all. He is gonna lose, terran has to damage zerg to have any chance at all in lategame
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4531
Ghosts coming up for MVP. Broodlords up for NesTea.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4532
On October 23 2011 09:12 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:11 GenesisX wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 theBizness wrote:
Like anybody actually makes Ultras... what kind of question was that?


Dimaga

sen


Sean?
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4533
On October 23 2011 09:12 Daok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:11 GenesisX wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 theBizness wrote:
Like anybody actually makes Ultras... what kind of question was that?


Dimaga


Who is this Dimaga, he doesnt sound like a smart guy.


dimaga, sen, stephano
For the swarm!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4534
On October 23 2011 09:13 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:12 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:07 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

12:10


Third and fourth base on the way for nestea

Contaminate on the third of MVP


13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones


16:00

MVP making two more command centres

Nestea getting burrow and an infestation pit


17:00


Nestea getting a hive and pathogen glands


17:40


100 drones for nestea


18:00


3/2 on the way for MVP

Nestea trying to deny the fourth of MVP


20:00


NESTEA IS GETTING ADRENAL GLANDS!

also greater spire and 3/2 upgrades


20:30


Ghosts on the way for MVP


21:00

Drop from MVP catches Nestea out of position
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4535
8 Ghosts autowin vs Zerg tier 2-3 in recent tournaments. Taking bets Sean?
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#4536
fucking medivac drops sean
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
October 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#4537
On October 23 2011 09:09 Medrea wrote:
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On October 23 2011 09:07 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:06 Medrea wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:04 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:58 Medrea wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:57 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:54 Juvant wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:54 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:53 Adreme wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:52 Femari wrote:
[quote]
Nestea 2-0'd Mvp in WBF
Mvp 2-0'd Nestea in the first Bo3
Nestea is up 1-0 in the second Bo3

Yes. It's a horrible format.


Its the standard format for double elimination tournaments that the guy from the losers bracket has to win 2 Bo3s.

Doesn't mean it's not horrible.





Should the person who didn't lose a single Bo3 not be rewarded somehow?

By punishing the player who has already been punished just to get to the finals?


Nestea lost a best of 3 to MVP at the end.

Therefore he goes to the loser's bracket. Who is in the loser's bracket? Thats right nobody.

Then he goes to the last championship round.

Make sense that way?

By winning the Winners Bracket he's no longer in the Winners Bracket. He's in the Championship Bracket. What happens when you lose in the Championship Bracket?


You go to the loser's bracket where you are the only person, then you are victorious. Make sense?

No when you're in the Championship Bracket and lose you're out.


Alright well i guess you are lost and I am sorry I can't help you. You'll have to look at hundreds, literally thousands of other tournaments that came before this one that uses double elimination.

So you're using popularity to determine that it's good? lol. Guess the best piece of fiction is Twilight then.

When you win the Winners Bracket you go to the Championship Bracket. Now in this case Nestea beat Mvp and Mvp went to the Losers Bracket FINALS. Both the Winners Bracket and Losers Brackets are done. That means you go to the single elimination bracket that is the Championship Bracket. You lose in that, it's over. This is a huge flaw in the system. If you want to reward the player for not losing yet, then put him 1 game up in a Bo7 finals. Don't put the person who has played more in such a ridiculous hole.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#4538
On October 23 2011 09:13 vojnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:12 Daok wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 GenesisX wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 theBizness wrote:
Like anybody actually makes Ultras... what kind of question was that?


Dimaga


Who is this Dimaga, he doesnt sound like a smart guy.


dimaga, sen, stephano


Ultras are like the bike in pokemon; There's a time and place for them, but not now!
memes are a dish best served dank
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#4539
On October 23 2011 09:13 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:13 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:12 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones


16:00

MVP making two more command centres

Nestea getting burrow and an infestation pit


17:00


Nestea getting a hive and pathogen glands


17:40


100 drones for nestea


18:00


3/2 on the way for MVP

Nestea trying to deny the fourth of MVP


20:00


NESTEA IS GETTING ADRENAL GLANDS!

also greater spire and 3/2 upgrades


20:30


Ghosts on the way for MVP


21:00

Drop from MVP catches Nestea out of position


22:00


Nestea attacks the third of MVP but his broodlords are left unprotected
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
October 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#4540
Day9 with shaky cam again
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