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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
October 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#4481
MVP playing such a SOLID game!
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4482
not sure MVP is even gonna take a 3rd, looks like he might try to just end the game
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4483
Nestea's missing baneling speed.... that could seriously hurt
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:09:41
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4484
Why isn't nestea upgrading baneling speed!?


Edit: Just when I wrote that :O
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4485
Jesus, how does he always have so many drones..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4486
Using Blizzard's ingenious SPM formula, I can safely say JP has an average of 3 Seans Per Minute, and in intense periods can peak as high as 5!
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4487
On October 23 2011 09:08 Drazerk wrote:
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6:40


Nestea kills the marines of MVP but all his lings go down to his hellions

Third base now on the way for MVP while Nestea gets lair


7:30


Stim on the way for MVP as he makes a second barracks


8:00


baneling nest and evo chamber for Nestea


8:40


MVP pushing with hellions

Nestea is getting Spire and a macro hatch


9:40


Siege tech on the way for MVP

Nestea getting a lot of banelings as his spire finishes


10:30


Nestea is finally able to leave his base by planting a spine on the low ground


11:30


turret of MVP finishes just in time because nestea parked outside MVP's main for a couple of seconds too long


12:10


Third and fourth base on the way for nestea

Contaminate on the third of MVP


13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4488
On October 23 2011 09:07 Femari wrote:
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On October 23 2011 08:57 Femari wrote:
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On October 23 2011 08:51 Hier wrote:
I don't get it, what's the score?
OP says 2:0 MVP
Liquipedia says 1:0 MVP
Stream says 1:0 Nestea

Nestea 2-0'd Mvp in WBF
Mvp 2-0'd Nestea in the first Bo3
Nestea is up 1-0 in the second Bo3

Yes. It's a horrible format.


Its the standard format for double elimination tournaments that the guy from the losers bracket has to win 2 Bo3s.

Doesn't mean it's not horrible.





Should the person who didn't lose a single Bo3 not be rewarded somehow?

By punishing the player who has already been punished just to get to the finals?


Nestea lost a best of 3 to MVP at the end.

Therefore he goes to the loser's bracket. Who is in the loser's bracket? Thats right nobody.

Then he goes to the last championship round.

Make sense that way?

By winning the Winners Bracket he's no longer in the Winners Bracket. He's in the Championship Bracket. What happens when you lose in the Championship Bracket?


You go to the loser's bracket where you are the only person, then you are victorious. Make sense?

No when you're in the Championship Bracket and lose you're out.


Alright well i guess you are lost and I am sorry I can't help you. You'll have to look at hundreds, literally thousands of other tournaments that came before this one that uses double elimination.
twitch.tv/medrea
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4489
omg such late baneling speed haha.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4490
I still think you're better not pulling your drones and letting them mine against hellions if you have lings incoming.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4491
17 drones in production...nestea..o man
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
October 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#4492
On October 23 2011 09:09 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Using Blizzard's ingenious SPM formula, I can safely say JP has an average of 3 Seans Per Minute, and in intense periods can peak as high as 5!


Yeah but come on dude, we all know that's when he spams. I bet his eSPM is around 1 or 2.

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"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4493
On October 23 2011 09:09 Drazerk wrote:
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7:30


Stim on the way for MVP as he makes a second barracks


8:00


baneling nest and evo chamber for Nestea


8:40


MVP pushing with hellions

Nestea is getting Spire and a macro hatch


9:40


Siege tech on the way for MVP

Nestea getting a lot of banelings as his spire finishes


10:30


Nestea is finally able to leave his base by planting a spine on the low ground


11:30


turret of MVP finishes just in time because nestea parked outside MVP's main for a couple of seconds too long


12:10


Third and fourth base on the way for nestea

Contaminate on the third of MVP


13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones


16:00

MVP making two more command centres

Nestea getting burrow and an infestation pit
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4494
honestly, I think idra has better zvt than nestea ;p
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4495
MVP really needs to move out before NesTea's econ gets out of hand.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4496
Nestea playing Idra, only a lot better
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4497
Can't see MVP winning from here. Once mutas start doing damage you gotta get tricky.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4498
On October 23 2011 09:10 Drazerk wrote:
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8:00


baneling nest and evo chamber for Nestea


8:40


MVP pushing with hellions

Nestea is getting Spire and a macro hatch


9:40


Siege tech on the way for MVP

Nestea getting a lot of banelings as his spire finishes


10:30


Nestea is finally able to leave his base by planting a spine on the low ground


11:30


turret of MVP finishes just in time because nestea parked outside MVP's main for a couple of seconds too long


12:10


Third and fourth base on the way for nestea

Contaminate on the third of MVP


13:20

armoury finishing for MVP as he gets a second factory


14:00

Thors now in production while getting 2/1 bio and +1 mech weapons


15:00


baneling speed and +2 on the way for Nestea

MVP gets into the third base of Nestra killing a few drones


16:00

MVP making two more command centres

Nestea getting burrow and an infestation pit


17:00


Nestea getting a hive and pathogen glands
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4499
On October 23 2011 09:08 babylon wrote:
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On October 23 2011 08:58 Krehlmar wrote:
I love clan IM and MVP/NesTea but I really REALLY hate how MVP playes against NesTea... always rushes, never macrogames. Always that kind of terran play that makes me go "yugh that's so godamn cheap" like mass marine/tanks early etc.


lol? MVP has crushed Nestea many many times in macro games. If you want to blame somebody then blame blizzard for shitty map selection.


Hellions into timing push doesnt = macro game. Ive never seen MVP win a macro game vs nestea.

Lol, did you watch like any of their GSL games?

macro games = stay inside your base no attack 20 minutes

It's like he wants to watch Bomber and IdrA slug it out all day and night.


Don't we all?

Only when the Zerg wins, apparently.

That series would not have been nearly as popular had Bomber won. We'd get so many pages of "TERRAN OP!" it wouldn't even be funny.


Idra vs Bomber were fairly long, back-and-forth macro games though. At least for me this game is million times better then the last 2 already.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#4500
omg 100 drones @_@
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
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