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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4441
On October 23 2011 09:04 Sina92 wrote:
any1 knows the reason for bisu / jaedongs visit btw?


they came to see sean
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4442
JP reminds me of this Alan Partridge scene:
Joe12
Profile Joined March 2010
183 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4443
On October 23 2011 09:02 Cain0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:01 Joe12 wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:58 Krehlmar wrote:
I love clan IM and MVP/NesTea but I really REALLY hate how MVP playes against NesTea... always rushes, never macrogames. Always that kind of terran play that makes me go "yugh that's so godamn cheap" like mass marine/tanks early etc.


lol? MVP has crushed Nestea many many times in macro games. If you want to blame somebody then blame blizzard for shitty map selection.


Hellions into timing push doesnt = macro game. Ive never seen MVP win a macro game vs nestea.


Err ok, do you even know how this matchup work? What do you want? MVP to sit passive while Nestea max out on 6 bases? If you're not aggressive against zerg then you lose this matchup.
Snusdosa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4444
On October 23 2011 09:04 tUUTZ wrote:
Has anyone counted JP's Sean per minute?


highest of all commentators, all though many complain that most of those SPMs are just spam
Manslayer
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile150 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4445
On October 23 2011 09:04 Grettin wrote:
this drinking game is starting to hurt. Too much "sean".


Yes.. imagine if you were drinking alcohol D:
No quote D:
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4446
On October 23 2011 09:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:04 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:03 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:03 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:01 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:00 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:00 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:59 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

1:40


barracks in production for MVP


2:10


hatch first from nestea

MVP getting his gas


3:00


Pool and gas on the way for nestea as MVP gets his orbital


4:00


Factory on the way for MVP as he places a bunker at the natural


4:50


MVP kills three zerglings in the middle of the map forcing another round to be made

Hellions are out for MVP and ling speed is starting


5:40


Nestea is making a lot of lings

MVP is expanding


6:40


Nestea kills the marines of MVP but all his lings go down to his hellions

Third base now on the way for MVP while Nestea gets lair


7:30


Stim on the way for MVP as he makes a second barracks


8:00


baneling nest and evo chamber for Nestea


8:40


MVP pushing with hellions

Nestea is getting Spire and a macro hatch


9:40


Siege tech on the way for MVP

Nestea getting a lot of banelings as his spire finishes
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4447
On October 23 2011 09:02 Daok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 08:59 Monocle wrote:
Day9 is so enthusiastic, it's awesome



idk if im the only one thinking this, but i think Day9 is a fake-person. (especially at this bcon)

sometimes it sounds awkward when he laughs, because his fake-laughing is extremely bad...
dont get me wrong, i really like Day9, but yea, he is absolutely NOT naturally.



I think the word isn't fake as much as it is...corny?

Day9 seems to go through weird phases where sometimes his enthusiasm sounds genuine, and other times it just sounds a bit cheesy or overexaggerated for dramatic effect.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#4448
On October 23 2011 09:04 ViperPL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:00 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Blizzcon worst SC2 tournament of 2011, agreed anyone?


Terran only MLG was worse. Although this one is not far behind.

wtf? that mlg had some amazing games. boxer vs mma was one of the best series i've ever seen.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4449
i wanna see a nydus so badly
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4450
On October 23 2011 09:05 Manslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:04 Grettin wrote:
this drinking game is starting to hurt. Too much "sean".


Yes.. imagine if you were drinking alcohol D:
I'm drinking milk, it's oozing out of my dick now.
I <3 Plexa.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4451
On October 23 2011 09:05 GenesisX wrote:
any reason why nestea always puts his macro hatch at his natural? he has much more space in the main it seems

To block Hellions
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4452
On October 23 2011 09:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:04 Zane wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Cain0 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:01 Joe12 wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:58 Krehlmar wrote:
I love clan IM and MVP/NesTea but I really REALLY hate how MVP playes against NesTea... always rushes, never macrogames. Always that kind of terran play that makes me go "yugh that's so godamn cheap" like mass marine/tanks early etc.


lol? MVP has crushed Nestea many many times in macro games. If you want to blame somebody then blame blizzard for shitty map selection.


Hellions into timing push doesnt = macro game. Ive never seen MVP win a macro game vs nestea.

Lol, did you watch like any of their GSL games?

macro games = stay inside your base no attack 20 minutes

It's like he wants to watch Bomber and IdrA slug it out all day and night.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4453
Them hellions. I'm calling seananigans!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4454
wow that huge variety of build orders / strategies from mvp -.-
<(^-^<) (>^-^)>
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4455
On October 23 2011 09:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:05 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:04 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:03 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:03 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:01 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:00 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:00 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:10


hatch first from nestea

MVP getting his gas


3:00


Pool and gas on the way for nestea as MVP gets his orbital


4:00


Factory on the way for MVP as he places a bunker at the natural


4:50


MVP kills three zerglings in the middle of the map forcing another round to be made

Hellions are out for MVP and ling speed is starting


5:40


Nestea is making a lot of lings

MVP is expanding


6:40


Nestea kills the marines of MVP but all his lings go down to his hellions

Third base now on the way for MVP while Nestea gets lair


7:30


Stim on the way for MVP as he makes a second barracks


8:00


baneling nest and evo chamber for Nestea


8:40


MVP pushing with hellions

Nestea is getting Spire and a macro hatch


9:40


Siege tech on the way for MVP

Nestea getting a lot of banelings as his spire finishes


10:30


Nestea is finally able to leave his base by planting a spine on the low ground
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4456
On October 23 2011 09:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:04 Zane wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Cain0 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:01 Joe12 wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:58 Krehlmar wrote:
I love clan IM and MVP/NesTea but I really REALLY hate how MVP playes against NesTea... always rushes, never macrogames. Always that kind of terran play that makes me go "yugh that's so godamn cheap" like mass marine/tanks early etc.


lol? MVP has crushed Nestea many many times in macro games. If you want to blame somebody then blame blizzard for shitty map selection.


Hellions into timing push doesnt = macro game. Ive never seen MVP win a macro game vs nestea.

Lol, did you watch like any of their GSL games?

macro games = stay inside your base no attack 20 minutes


Macro game doesnt = 8 minute siege outside opponents base that is unbreakable.
HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4457
On October 23 2011 09:05 Joe12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:02 Cain0 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:01 Joe12 wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:58 Krehlmar wrote:
I love clan IM and MVP/NesTea but I really REALLY hate how MVP playes against NesTea... always rushes, never macrogames. Always that kind of terran play that makes me go "yugh that's so godamn cheap" like mass marine/tanks early etc.


lol? MVP has crushed Nestea many many times in macro games. If you want to blame somebody then blame blizzard for shitty map selection.


Hellions into timing push doesnt = macro game. Ive never seen MVP win a macro game vs nestea.


Err ok, do you even know how this matchup work? What do you want? MVP to sit passive while Nestea max out on 6 bases? If you're not aggressive against zerg then you lose this matchup.

Any attacks by Terran before Zerg is maxed on 6 bases is cheesy abusive and overpowered according to Zerg players.
Snusdosa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4458
On October 23 2011 09:06 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Them hellions. I'm calling seananigans!


LOL
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4459
On October 23 2011 09:06 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:04 Zane wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:02 Cain0 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:01 Joe12 wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:58 Krehlmar wrote:
I love clan IM and MVP/NesTea but I really REALLY hate how MVP playes against NesTea... always rushes, never macrogames. Always that kind of terran play that makes me go "yugh that's so godamn cheap" like mass marine/tanks early etc.


lol? MVP has crushed Nestea many many times in macro games. If you want to blame somebody then blame blizzard for shitty map selection.


Hellions into timing push doesnt = macro game. Ive never seen MVP win a macro game vs nestea.

Lol, did you watch like any of their GSL games?

macro games = stay inside your base no attack 20 minutes

It's like he wants to watch Bomber and IdrA slug it out all day and night.


Don't we all?
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#4460
On October 23 2011 09:04 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 08:58 Medrea wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:57 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:54 Juvant wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:54 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:53 Adreme wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:52 Femari wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:51 Hier wrote:
I don't get it, what's the score?
OP says 2:0 MVP
Liquipedia says 1:0 MVP
Stream says 1:0 Nestea

Nestea 2-0'd Mvp in WBF
Mvp 2-0'd Nestea in the first Bo3
Nestea is up 1-0 in the second Bo3

Yes. It's a horrible format.


Its the standard format for double elimination tournaments that the guy from the losers bracket has to win 2 Bo3s.

Doesn't mean it's not horrible.



Should the person who didn't lose a single Bo3 not be rewarded somehow?

By punishing the player who has already been punished just to get to the finals?


Nestea lost a best of 3 to MVP at the end.

Therefore he goes to the loser's bracket. Who is in the loser's bracket? Thats right nobody.

Then he goes to the last championship round.

Make sense that way?

By winning the Winners Bracket he's no longer in the Winners Bracket. He's in the Championship Bracket. What happens when you lose in the Championship Bracket?


You go to the loser's bracket where you are the only person, then you are victorious. Make sense?
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