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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:59 thoradycus wrote: so that he can get banshees. His banshees were able to do so much damage because its impossible for MMA to get air control with that many vikings. But he saw that MMA wasn't building any antiair, just some marines, and he still kept producing vikings. I really think he overproduced them. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
MMA:....sure. ....wait why are you doing this? Nestea: Because....can't let that bastard get 4 GSL titles before me!! | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:56 Veldril wrote: I think they play against each other in 1. GSTL 1 game (1-0 MMA) 2. MLG Anaheim 1 Match (2-1 MVP) 3. Geforce Pro/Amateur Winner Round X (MMA 2-X can't really remember). 4. Geforce Pro/Amateur Final (MMA Wins) 5. GSL October (MMA 4-1) So if you include the online tournament, then MMA is winning head to head. Online tournaments hold very little water, and best of 1's hold no water. MMA outplayed MVP today, plain and simple. But one series does not let you supplant the best player at the moment. It must be consistency and excellence. Lest we forget MVP just went through the toughest GSL run last season and won. | ||
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Zannadar
Turkey294 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:46 qck wrote: For those of you who missed John's speech: Transcribed: "Well many of my friends or parents would say: "It's just a game John, quit it." But being here today, people from all over the world being together and sharing this moment is something that politics or money can't do, and it's a miracle. And it is so very easy for us, people like us, who is doing the productions to forget, that we just provide the tools, and it's actually the fans that make the e-sports. Thank you for reminding me of that, and if anyone ever doubts your passions towards e-sports, tell them you were here at 2011 Blizzcon and you watched the GSL finals. Thank you very much, I love you all." Love you John. You add so much to the scene.... | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
Great victory by MMA, but I feel that Mvp wasn't playing to his full potential, especially with the condition of his wrists. When Mvp gets his wrists fixed, I hope to see MMA and Mvp play each other again in the Code S finals in the next few seasons after, with MMA winning fair and square, and not due to extenuating circumstances regarding the other player. Great games overall though, probably the best finals in GSL history. Also, fact: When MMA was playing Polt in the Super Tournament, I voted for MMA and saw the horrific 4-0. So this time I voted for Mvp. Another fact: John the Translator is damn awesome. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
Also lol at the Champion Curse still being alive | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 22 2011 17:04 KanoCoke wrote: Also, fact: When MMA was playing Polt in the Super Tournament, I voted for MMA and saw the horrific 4-0. So this time I voted for Mvp. Another fact: John the Translator is damn awesome. Well I think it's clear now, MMA can beat anyone, on any map with any style... Except for polt :> | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
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Starcraft2Radio
United States132 Posts
Not just because the games were good, but because that crowd was absolutely incredible. If Starcraft 2 ever gets to like a major sport-level status here in the US, all of us will say "yeah, I saw the turning point.. it was the GSL Finals at Blizzcon". That crowd was simply enormous. If I was on stage casting that game and came out to see the energy and sheer size of the crowd, I'd have a hard time not just breaking out into tears of joy. Seriously. Amazing event. Glad I had a chance to watch. | ||
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ssg
United States1777 Posts
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SushilS
2115 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:46 qck wrote: For those of you who missed John's speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GlbSk_Dpk Transcribed: "Well many of my friends or parents would say: "It's just a game John, quit it." But being here today, people from all over the world being together and sharing this moment is something that politics or money can't do, and it's a miracle. And it is so very easy for us, people like us, who is doing the productions to forget, that we just provide the tools, and it's actually the fans that make the e-sports. Thank you for reminding me of that, and if anyone ever doubts your passions towards e-sports, tell them you were here at 2011 Blizzcon and you watched the GSL finals. Thank you very much, I love you all." T FRICKIN' T Jon how so baller!! | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:52 Iamyournoob wrote: I like MMA as a player, and as a person he also seems to be a cool guy. Overall I am OK to see him winning. However, saying that he is now a better player than MVP is imho a big exageration. His TvT seems to be pretty darn good, but I doubt his TvP or TvZ are as good as MVP's. There are more MUs than TvT that determine a player's overall skill as well as a look back in the past - and in the past MVP has been dominant. This dominance includes beating the arguably best Zerg player (Nestea) in two consecutive GSLs iirc, whereas MMA got 0-3'ed at IPL by some Zerg named "Lucky". Not to take anything away from MMA, but if he is better than the one, who is considered to be the best SC2-player by lot of people right now, he should under no circumstances lose to a code A Zerg in such a poor manner. (Not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to lose, but 0-3 is inacceptable) One player consistently beating the other dosen't mean that the player who wins is the better player for sure. Zenio has a good record against MVP, does that means he the better player? You have to take into consideration records against different players and different matchups as well. Some players always seem to get the better of 1 player. Like Polt vs MMA. Its just their styles + preparation clashing. | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4266 Posts
Too bad I missed it but I hope everyone enjoyed good games and that MMA won with style! | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 22 2011 17:04 KanoCoke wrote: I never saw the marine tank medivac 3/3 3/3 off of 4 base from quick double expand by Mvp that scares the hell out of me, and everyone else. The double carpal tunnel must have really hurt his gameplay and forced him to mech on almost every game. Mvp still had great banshee control when he wasn't suiciding them to marines though. Great victory by MMA, but I feel that Mvp wasn't playing to his full potential, especially with the condition of his wrists. When Mvp gets his wrists fixed, I hope to see MMA and Mvp play each other again in the Code S finals in the next few seasons after, with MMA winning fair and square, and not due to extenuating circumstances regarding the other player. Great games overall though, probably the best finals in GSL history. Also, fact: When MMA was playing Polt in the Super Tournament, I voted for MMA and saw the horrific 4-0. So this time I voted for Mvp. Another fact: John the Translator is damn awesome. I don't think his wrists affected him in the game. With that amount of adrenaline pumping through your body, you won't really register wrist pain, and MVP did say he was in the best condition possible for the match. It feels more like he didn't prepare and assumed he'd smash MMA after seeing MMA's previous games against Happy or something, whereas MMA went all out and probably practiced with Ryung until Ryung wanted to punch his face in. Especially seeing as how MVP went mech on DS, which isn't a very mech-friendly map at all. He tried to do a one-size-fits-all strategy, while MMA poured his soul into those games and really put a lot of thought into how he was going to play. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
wtf is wrong with some people ? | ||
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s3183529
Australia707 Posts
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
On October 22 2011 17:13 s3183529 wrote: I'm a noob, but I think MVP should have built his defense and just macro when he broke MMA contain? Will it work? No only because when MVP broke the contains MMA had taken the map and was up by 2 or more bases. | ||
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eleaf
526 Posts
On October 22 2011 17:12 farnham wrote: sooo i browsed the gomtv.com (korean site) and people are bashing john for giving his epic speech wtf is wrong with some people ? Koreans seems doesnt like John .... so weird | ||
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