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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
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ImperialTea
France187 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:44 _Nova_ wrote: .. Are you completely retarded?.. I said over their past FIVE MATCHES, dating back to March of this year. MMA has won FOUR out of those, Mvp ONE, which was MLG Anaheim. That's not temporary, that's consistency over months of playing. How about you get YOUR facts straight, "bro". You just made yourself look like a complete idiot by trying to argue against what I just had to reiterate in a clearer form for you to understand. If you want to maintain any dignity whatsoever, I would suggest you stop posting now. Lol calm down, MMA clearly beats MVP in H2H but MVP is most likely the better player overall. If you're right, MMA will prove it during the next seasons. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:44 _Nova_ wrote: .. Are you completely retarded?.. I said over their past FIVE MATCHES, dating back to March of this year. MMA has won FOUR out of those, Mvp ONE, which was MLG Anaheim. That's not temporary, that's consistency over months of playing. How about you get YOUR facts straight, "bro". You just made yourself look like a complete idiot by trying to argue against what I just had to reiterate in a clearer form for you to understand. If you want to maintain any dignity whatsoever, I would suggest you stop posting now. Calm down..no I didn't understand what you were saying. And actually I don't even remember them playing 5 matches since March. This gsl, mlg, that one g..can't remember the exact tournament name but someone previously has mentioned it. You really need to relax. edit: are you counting best of 1s in the team leagues? | ||
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grungust
United States325 Posts
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T3tra
United States406 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:49 DreamOen wrote: anywhere to see the john final speeh , just missed it? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=277705¤tpage=281 scroll down | ||
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Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:36 _Nova_ wrote: Or maybe the fact MMA has won 4 out of the last 5 matches they've played... Should probably think about that rather than counting titles. That shows closed-mindedness, not the best thing to have when trying to argue facts. I like MMA as a player, and as a person he also seems to be a cool guy. Overall I am OK to see him winning. However, saying that he is now a better player than MVP is imho a big exageration. His TvT seems to be pretty darn good, but I doubt his TvP or TvZ are as good as MVP's. There are more MUs than TvT that determine a player's overall skill as well as a look back in the past - and in the past MVP has been dominant. This dominance includes beating the arguably best Zerg player (Nestea) in two consecutive GSLs iirc, whereas MMA got 0-3'ed at IPL by some Zerg named "Lucky". Not to take anything away from MMA, but if he is better than the one, who is considered to be the best SC2-player by lot of people right now, he should under no circumstances lose to a code A Zerg in such a poor manner. (Not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to lose, but 0-3 is inacceptable) | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:52 Iamyournoob wrote: I like MMA as a player, and as a person he also seems to be a cool guy. Overall I am OK to see him winning. However, saying that he is now a better player than MVP is imho a big exageration. His TvT seems to be pretty darn good, but I doubt his TvP or TvZ are as good as MVP's. There are more MUs than TvT that determine a player's overall skill as well as a look back in the past - and in the past MVP has been dominant. This dominance includes beating the arguably best Zerg player (Nestea) in two consecutive GSLs iirc, whereas MMA got 0-3'ed at IPL by some Zerg named "Lucky". Not to take anything away from MMA, but if he is better than the one, who is considered to be the best SC2-player by lot of people right now, he should under no circumstances lose to a code A Zerg in such a poor manner. (Not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to lose, but 0-3 is inacceptable) Both MVP and MMA are pretty mediocre at TvP. I can't honestly choose either one over the other. MVP's TvZ is definitely better than MMA's though. (But I'd still say that MMA has the second-best TvZ in the world.) | ||
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wDDelete
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:52 Iamyournoob wrote: I like MMA as a player, and as a person he also seems to be a cool guy. Overall I am OK to see him winning. However, saying that he is now a better player than MVP is imho a big exageration. His TvT seems to be pretty darn good, but I doubt his TvP or TvZ are as good as MVP's. There are more MUs than TvT that determine a player's overall skill as well as a look back in the past - and in the past MVP has been dominant. This dominance includes beating the arguably best Zerg player (Nestea) in two consecutive GSLs iirc, whereas MMA got 0-3'ed at IPL by some Zerg named "Lucky". Not to take anything away from MMA, but if he is better than the one, who is considered to be the best SC2-player by lot of people right now, he should under no circumstances lose to a code A Zerg in such a poor manner. (Not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to lose, but 0-3 is inacceptable) MMA actually has one of the best TvZ's out there right now and always has. But at this point it's too hard to say that there is 1 best player, and I doubt it will ever be that easy. | ||
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SFaXieL
United States137 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:50 rysecake wrote: Calm down..no I didn't understand what you were saying. And actually I don't even remember them playing 5 matches since March. This gsl, mlg, that one g..can't remember the exact tournament name but someone previously has mentioned it. You really need to relax. edit: are you counting best of 1s in the team leagues? I think they play against each other in 1. GSTL 1 game (1-0 MMA) 2. MLG Anaheim 1 Match (2-1 MVP) 3. Geforce Pro/Amateur Winner Round X (MMA 2-X can't really remember). 4. Geforce Pro/Amateur Final (MMA Wins) 5. GSL October (MMA 4-1) So if you include the online tournament, then MMA is winning head to head. | ||
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ScythedBlade
308 Posts
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
For those who missed the games, the restream is available at Blizz page, you can skip and fast forward. I woke up and just started watching from the start without spoiliing myself with results | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On the flip side I am proud of MVP for putting up a decent fight and I also hope he does well next season. One loss in the finals does not devalue his past achievements and I like when dominant players remain that way. The game feels more stable and enjoyable when there's a core group of players who really know how each other ticks. I dunno if he needs to vary his mech style any ( Bomber and ganzi fell pretty damn easy to it) or if only MMA can challenge it yet. I would like to see something new and surprising out of him though and I do miss the times when he would occasional go bio like he did vs Top last season. I also still want a serious rivalry between SlayerS and IM to spring up ( Next finals Nestea vs Coca plz?) as I like the storylines it can produce. As it is MMA, MVP and Nestea seem to take turns stomping on each other and it's always exciting to see who comes out on top. Overall a good finals ( I'm not sure when we will ever see a great one though) that was well worth watching. | ||
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Rykros
483 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:47 ImperialTea wrote: It feels kind of ironic to see MMA fans talking about shutting the MVP fans up, usually the MMA fans are the more vocal ones...  People on both sides need to chill: MMA played much better than MVP today, and he seems to have MVP's number (like Bomber used to). But MVP is more consistent, had another event to practice for, and is suffering from 2x CTS. So yes, MMA beats MVP in H2H. But overall, I think that MVP is the better player. Plus i want to see MVP dominate Yup . Mvp is the best in my heart . Hes forever. | ||
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Copenap
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On October 22 2011 16:57 Odoakar wrote: I don't understand why mvp built so many vikings, he could have done with a lot less of them. so that he can get banshees. His banshees were able to do so much damage because its impossible for MMA to get air control with that many vikings. | ||
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