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On October 19 2011 12:50 Oktyabr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 12:44 saocyn wrote:On October 19 2011 12:42 JJH777 wrote:On October 19 2011 12:38 saocyn wrote:who ever made the bracket is honestly a moron, i'm pretty sure they invited the players as well. duno how you can ever manage to only get 2 protoss players and out of a 16 player pool. and out of the 2 protoss there is an unknown one.... like honestly? at least put someone who can put up a challenge with a p like huk, mc, white-ra, kiwikaki, heck even inori, fxoz, hasuobs this isn't even going to be a fair tournament nor a challenge to MVP or Nestea it's like the 2 elite of CODE S vs B rank players. and the terran choices are just ugh. how are you going to be cheap on the invites at your own event? like you'd think if blizzard was getting shares for their game in every tournament they'd be willing to fork over the extra cash to bring people who can actually give mvp and nestea a run for their money. like MMA, bomber, dongraegu, ganzi, at least invite people who have a realistic shot to dethrone the kings .... On October 19 2011 12:34 Klamity wrote:On October 19 2011 11:45 rohanim41 wrote:
seriously only 2 protoss on 16 total players, talk about underrepresentation. complaining about unequal distribution in only 1 tournament out of hundreds, talk about under-representation. doesn't matter. iTS BLIZZARDS OWN TOURNAMENT. they made this game and they should be up to date on who's good and who's not to make the best tournament out there that's equal, balanced and fair to best represent their game. they get a share of every tournament out there that makes more than 5k, they have no excuse for a crappy tournament cause it's their own damn game. They do 2 per region and there were qualifiers. Huk failed to qualify over Select and Sheth. that's really hard to believe lol but whatever. when did the qualifiers happen? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_North_American_Battle.net_InvitationalHuk/Kiwikaki wasn't up to the challenge then. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_European_Battle.net_InvitationalNeither was White-ra. None of your suggestions made it through.
yeah i eat my words. but that's honestly a horrible qualifier. like to only invite 2 of them doesn't do justice to this epic tournament that's hosting a gsl finals as well. i mean thats only 4 spots for qualifiers excluding the 2 from korea. so where did all the other random people come from?
and i'm sorry if no one agrees but it's a shame ret ended up taking one of the spots, lol sorry i had to say it. it's going to be a repeat of "travel 15 hours, lose in 15 minutes.jpg" there is so much more potential than him with naniwa, thorzain, and white-ra. he blew his potential when he quit GSL just like jinro did and now they're just lack luster.
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On October 19 2011 14:58 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 13:54 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why can't they just use GSL maps.. Frankly, any of these maps would be better than Dual Sight. The map pool might not be ideal, but this knee-jerk rage reaction from so many posters seems way over the top.
Dual Sight is more balanced than any of the maps in this pool based on the stats besides Antiga which has too few games to really say anything.
It is actually terran favored both internationally and Korean only.
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On October 19 2011 15:31 saocyn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 12:50 Oktyabr wrote:On October 19 2011 12:44 saocyn wrote:On October 19 2011 12:42 JJH777 wrote:On October 19 2011 12:38 saocyn wrote:who ever made the bracket is honestly a moron, i'm pretty sure they invited the players as well. duno how you can ever manage to only get 2 protoss players and out of a 16 player pool. and out of the 2 protoss there is an unknown one.... like honestly? at least put someone who can put up a challenge with a p like huk, mc, white-ra, kiwikaki, heck even inori, fxoz, hasuobs this isn't even going to be a fair tournament nor a challenge to MVP or Nestea it's like the 2 elite of CODE S vs B rank players. and the terran choices are just ugh. how are you going to be cheap on the invites at your own event? like you'd think if blizzard was getting shares for their game in every tournament they'd be willing to fork over the extra cash to bring people who can actually give mvp and nestea a run for their money. like MMA, bomber, dongraegu, ganzi, at least invite people who have a realistic shot to dethrone the kings .... On October 19 2011 12:34 Klamity wrote:On October 19 2011 11:45 rohanim41 wrote:
seriously only 2 protoss on 16 total players, talk about underrepresentation. complaining about unequal distribution in only 1 tournament out of hundreds, talk about under-representation. doesn't matter. iTS BLIZZARDS OWN TOURNAMENT. they made this game and they should be up to date on who's good and who's not to make the best tournament out there that's equal, balanced and fair to best represent their game. they get a share of every tournament out there that makes more than 5k, they have no excuse for a crappy tournament cause it's their own damn game. They do 2 per region and there were qualifiers. Huk failed to qualify over Select and Sheth. that's really hard to believe lol but whatever. when did the qualifiers happen? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_North_American_Battle.net_InvitationalHuk/Kiwikaki wasn't up to the challenge then. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_European_Battle.net_InvitationalNeither was White-ra. None of your suggestions made it through. yeah i eat my words. but that's honestly a horrible qualifier. like to only invite 2 of them doesn't do justice to this epic tournament that's hosting a gsl finals as well. i mean thats only 4 spots for qualifiers excluding the 2 from korea. so where did all the other random people come from?
Every region had a qualifier except korea which seeded the 2 highest GSL rankings
SEA
NA
LA
EU
TW
CN
RU
Easily accessible information on the wiki that is linked.
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On October 19 2011 15:25 ch33psh33p wrote:
Bayyne, you can say what you want, but when Dimaga gets crushed, well we can come back to this. To suggest Dimaga can take down MVP is silly. He has maybe a 10% chance, if MVP is sick or something.
there is no need to belittle foreigners effort to give what they have, same talk happened before dimaga beat Nestea, and not im not saying dimaga is favorite im saying do not underestimate players effort to win and their talent, and dimaga has both. hence its not silly
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DIMAGA
Crush the terran and zerg opponents! You'll most likely not face a protoss unless Nani goes bossmode!
Rooting for you all the way, I believe!
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i definitly have to disagree with the dimaga statement. as a person who soley supports koreans and their dominance in every tournament, dimaga is definitly one capable of playing on the korean level.
not only taking MVP into a 1 hour game to only have it disc and to win the 2nd, he was the first person to take a zvz game off of nestea which is honestly amazing since at the time nestea was hailed as greatest and still is. just look at how the guy trashed losira in GSL and you'd think it'd be unfucking possible to beat him in a zvz.
while MVP's tvz is probably the best in the world it's not unbeatable. it is still very very susecptable to mutalisk play. if you have even seen the VOD's recently of the AOL league dongragegu 2-0ed him very easily in dominating fashion. even back then he lost to july's baneling bust and even way back farther, to idra in a late game. MVP's only weakness is some cheesey flip coin strat but it seems he falls for those more than he does ever in a solid game.
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Facepalm at abyssal caverns. However , during blizzcon, I do remember they used MLG versions of the blizzard maps including metalopolis, which had the whole neutral lowered supply depot and disabled close spawns business. I just have to wonder... who the heck is on their map making team? Hopefully Dustin Browder is not leading it because I've just had enough with destructible rocks promoting STRUTAGEE.
Not to be too hard on Blizzard though. I can understand from their position that an official Blizzard tournament would be using official Blizzard Ladder maps.
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I sure hope Nestea doesn't choke, that would be the most anti-climatic thing ever.
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Pandemona
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Xel'Naga Caverns
Shakuras Plateau
The Shattered Temple
Antiga Shipyard
Abyssal Caverns
Abyssal caverns are u kidding me blizzard? LMAO wow :S awful awful.
Also, none of these seem to be "ESL/MLG/GSL" versions so close position spawning on Shattered, Shak, Antiga all possible?
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well, an MVP VS Nestea Finals is pretty much inevitable.... Not that that's a bad thing.
But I really don't know why Blizzard hates Maps that are not made by them so much...
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Whole lot of zergs, but I like the potential of a MVP v Nestea finals! But I would be the happiest if Sen was able to reach the finals!
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wow so many zergs.. is this maybe a sign for a zerg expansion? 
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Blizzard once said they didn't want to change the laddermaps to all macro maps with one-gas expos etc. because that would not be consistent with the ladder idea of variety in gameplay but that they were totally fine with tournaments having different maps for professional play. Then they host this.
Seriously, treating Blizzcon Finals as a series of showmatches would be best I guess. If you want real e-sports, GSL Finals will be happening anyways (although they will suck balls as is tradition).
This is so sad considering how much production value Blizzard usually puts into it. Tal Darim wouldn't have hurt anybody, would it? Siiiigh Blizz.
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Abyssal Caverns. Uh, what? Seriously....what?
Pulling for my Z homies. Gogo Ret, Nestea, Dima!
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blizzard really manages to ruin a tourney with mvp and nestea in it?
haven't they themselves openly admitted that ladder maps aren't meant for tournament play?
i'm in shock right now, losing faith in blizzard more and more
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Artosis said in SotG that there will be a veto per player, and Shattered's the ladder version (close spawns allowed).
Expect to see multiple games on Antiga and Shakuras. Repeatedly.
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On October 19 2011 15:25 ch33psh33p wrote:
Bayyne, you can say what you want, but when Dimaga gets crushed, well we can come back to this. To suggest Dimaga can take down MVP is silly. He has maybe a 10% chance, if MVP is sick or something.
lol. Last time Dimaga crushed Nestea. This isn't Brood war where Koreans have complete dominance. It's SC2 where foreigners stand an equal chance.
Also, I seriously don't understand why some westerners/foreigners want Koreans to dominate the scene. They would rather root for a korean rather then somebody in their own country. Pretty retarded if you ask me.
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On October 19 2011 15:36 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 15:25 ch33psh33p wrote:
Bayyne, you can say what you want, but when Dimaga gets crushed, well we can come back to this. To suggest Dimaga can take down MVP is silly. He has maybe a 10% chance, if MVP is sick or something. there is no need to belittle foreigners effort to give what they have, same talk happened before dimaga beat Nestea, and not im not saying dimaga is favorite im saying do not underestimate players effort to win and their talent, and dimaga has both. hence its not silly
Same talk when down before qxc all-killed IM (Mvp included).
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JazBas to make waves !
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ooff this weekend is going to be good with ESWC as well!!!
Cannot wait!
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