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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19681
On October 17 2011 10:08 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:06 RoyAlex wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 ellirc wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:02 Tantaburs wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 Mastertouch wrote:
see guys. money doesnt matter. all these crazy games for slave money. =)


5K for a weekend is slave money?

He didn't even work a weekend. Maybe like 7 hours. Pretty good pay per hour :p


More like 7 hours everyday.

I would be happy to make $5k in 21 hours of playing a video game


What are you talking about man? They play every day for 7+ hours training for events like this as a profession. Yes, making 5 G's in a few hours of work is rewarding, but you can't disregard all that previous effort and time spent for "this weekend". Was written somewhere the average pro-gamer makes a lot less than minimum wage if I recall correctly.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19682
On October 17 2011 10:10 Rayansaki wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 Ownos wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:00 Noxblood wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 AdreN- wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 MasterKush wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 HUANYSTAKES wrote:
HOW MUCH $$ DOES HUK RECEIVE ? 50K?


$5000

20% of what Stephano got for IPL. TT

Although MLG has already announced that their prize pool will be increased next season.


But because of the GSL partnership winning a MLG is more impressive than a IPL. Not saying that Stephanos win inn IPL wasn't EXTREMELY impressive!


IPL didn't have Koreans?

MLG had better Koreans


IEM NY had better Koreans

:[]


Of the Koreans at IEM NY, Fruitdealer is Code A, Top is in the Up and Down, and the only solid Code Ser(discounting FDs historic accomplishments, and he does seem to have regained his steam) there was DRG.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 01:15:05
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19683
On October 17 2011 10:13 Tuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 09:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:54 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:53 Meeks wrote:
This looks like Lord of the Rings

lol Artosis is Legolas. Day9 is Gandalf. Tasteless is Aragon. HUK IS FRODO heheh~ <3 so cute

Artosis, what do your elf eyes see?

This comment needed a photoshop so badly. Soo..
[image loading]

Thank you for delivering the epic.

Edit: I'm dying of laughter right now.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19684
On October 17 2011 10:13 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:08 Azarkon wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 Ownos wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:00 Noxblood wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 AdreN- wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 MasterKush wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 HUANYSTAKES wrote:
HOW MUCH $$ DOES HUK RECEIVE ? 50K?


$5000

20% of what Stephano got for IPL. TT

Although MLG has already announced that their prize pool will be increased next season.


But because of the GSL partnership winning a MLG is more impressive than a IPL. Not saying that Stephanos win inn IPL wasn't EXTREMELY impressive!


IPL didn't have Koreans?

MLG had better Koreans


Debatable.

MLG had more Koreans (though IPL also had a high number).

MLG had Bomber, but IPL had MMA.

The highest finishing Korean Terran in MLG, STC, was also in IPL.

The only thing IPL was missing was MC, but it had Inori, and it had Alive, and it had a couple of Korean Zergs which MLG did not.

It didn't have MKP and Polt, though.


Inori and Alive were here at MLG too.

Discounting players who were at both tournaments we had:

Orlando: Bomber, Polt, MKP, HongUn, July

IPL3: MMA, Ryung, Sleep, Lucky, Violet.

5 code S players vs 2 code S, 2 code A and 1 code B. Orlando's Korean lineup was definitely better.



And I'm saying that's debatable. The "Code B" players performed better than their Code S counterparts in these tournaments.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19685
On October 17 2011 10:08 zYwi3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:08 Azarkon wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 Ownos wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:00 Noxblood wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 AdreN- wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 MasterKush wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 HUANYSTAKES wrote:
HOW MUCH $$ DOES HUK RECEIVE ? 50K?


$5000

20% of what Stephano got for IPL. TT

Although MLG has already announced that their prize pool will be increased next season.


But because of the GSL partnership winning a MLG is more impressive than a IPL. Not saying that Stephanos win inn IPL wasn't EXTREMELY impressive!


IPL didn't have Koreans?

MLG had better Koreans


Debatable.

MLG had more Koreans (though IPL also had a high number).

MLG had Bomber, but IPL had MMA.

The highest finishing Korean Terran in MLG, STC, was also in IPL.

The only thing IPL was missing was MC, but it had Inori, and it had Alive, and it had a couple of Korean Zergs which MLG did not.

It didn't have MKP and Polt, though.


MC was on IPL3 ;/ ... Lost with Inori


IPL had MC and Alive. Only thing MLG was missing was Ryung, MMA and Lucky.

The fields were actually fairly even, for total quality. IPL just had a higher quality set of Pools, but MLG still had to deal with the Legacy rules for the year (which will be different next year).

DRG went and won himself an IEM (smart move, really) rather than compete in MLG. DRG being there would have made it a clearly better field than IPL.
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19686
On October 17 2011 10:13 Tuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 09:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:54 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:53 Meeks wrote:
This looks like Lord of the Rings

lol Artosis is Legolas. Day9 is Gandalf. Tasteless is Aragon. HUK IS FRODO heheh~ <3 so cute

Artosis, what do your elf eyes see?

This comment needed a photoshop so badly. Soo..
[image loading]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...
...
...
...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
...
..
... ahahahahahahaha xDDDD

jhHAHAHAHAHA xDD

omfg wth xDD thats incredible xD
zap zap zap
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
October 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#19687
On October 17 2011 10:13 Tuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 09:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:54 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:53 Meeks wrote:
This looks like Lord of the Rings

lol Artosis is Legolas. Day9 is Gandalf. Tasteless is Aragon. HUK IS FRODO heheh~ <3 so cute

Artosis, what do your elf eyes see?

This comment needed a photoshop so badly. Soo..
[image loading]

I can't even.......... Hahahhahahaha. Please do more!
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
October 17 2011 01:15 GMT
#19688
On October 17 2011 10:14 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:08 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:06 RoyAlex wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 ellirc wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:02 Tantaburs wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 Mastertouch wrote:
see guys. money doesnt matter. all these crazy games for slave money. =)


5K for a weekend is slave money?

He didn't even work a weekend. Maybe like 7 hours. Pretty good pay per hour :p


More like 7 hours everyday.

I would be happy to make $5k in 21 hours of playing a video game


What are you talking about man? They play every day for 7+ hours training for events like this as a profession. Yes, making 5 G's in a few hours of work is rewarding, but you can't disregard all that previous effort and time spent for "this weekend". Was written somewhere the average pro-gamer makes a lot less than minimum wage if I recall correctly.


From my understanding of Huk's contract with EG, he makes far more then minimum wage.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 17 2011 01:15 GMT
#19689
On October 17 2011 10:12 thepeonwhocould wrote:
The thing that really annoys me is that MLG''s tournament system is horrible, and they aren't willing to change anything until next year.

Some of the biggest problems are

-Players like Incontrol constantly being seeded into the pools despite loosing all the time (no disrespect to InControl, i know hes a great guy). Basically if you place well in one of the first two MLG's, you can ride that seeding through until the end of the year.
-Extended series ruining exitement
-Still only bo3 in the semi finals? Are you kidding me!?!?!? The semi's should be bo5 and no extended series
-A system where the grand final can be over in 2 games. What a joke...
-Grand final should be bo7 no extended series.
-Pathetic prize money

The grand final consisted of 2 games. Both games were decided within the first 5 minutes (4 gate micro win and a failed cannon rush). This is a combination of bad maps, bad balance by blizzard and a bad tournament system by MLG.

I can't stress enough how disappointing the final was for this tournament. Idra vs Bomber was true grand final in my eyes...


There's literally one more event before the system changes... AND INC IS NOT SEEDED INTO PROVIDENCE (barring someone from the top 16 turning down a chance at 50k 1st place prize.)

Which means, the last MLG event of this year is going to have a tremendous prize pool.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
October 17 2011 01:15 GMT
#19690
On October 17 2011 10:13 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:08 Azarkon wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 Ownos wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:00 Noxblood wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 AdreN- wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 MasterKush wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 HUANYSTAKES wrote:
HOW MUCH $$ DOES HUK RECEIVE ? 50K?


$5000

20% of what Stephano got for IPL. TT

Although MLG has already announced that their prize pool will be increased next season.


But because of the GSL partnership winning a MLG is more impressive than a IPL. Not saying that Stephanos win inn IPL wasn't EXTREMELY impressive!


IPL didn't have Koreans?

MLG had better Koreans


Debatable.

MLG had more Koreans (though IPL also had a high number).

MLG had Bomber, but IPL had MMA.

The highest finishing Korean Terran in MLG, STC, was also in IPL.

The only thing IPL was missing was MC, but it had Inori, and it had Alive, and it had a couple of Korean Zergs which MLG did not.

It didn't have MKP and Polt, though.

MC was at IPL. Alive was at MLG. Inori was at MLG as well. Pretty much the only Koreans IPL had that weren't at MLG were SlayerS (other than Boxer)guys and FXO Lucky.

MKP, Polt, Bomber all being at MLG makes it better.


More != better.

I'm talking about the average skill level of Koreans being about the same between the two tournaments, unless you feel that July and HongUn are much better players than Lucky and Ryung.


MKP is better than Ryung. So is polt. So is Bomber. July is also probably better than Lucky. What are you proving by picking out the worst Korean at MLG and comparing him to 2 of the best who were at ipl?
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 17 2011 01:16 GMT
#19691
I think Incontrol actually still goes to providence as a seeded player. According to this

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/leaderboards/65

His final ranking was 26. That means his total points are 1270, tied with rain and 10 ahead of Sheth's final 1260.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

Anybody know what the tiebreaker between Rain and InControl are for that 16th slot at providence? That is a huge difference.
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
October 17 2011 01:16 GMT
#19692
Did MKP and Bomber actually play each other for 5th and 6th and, if so, is there any way we can watch those games?
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 17 2011 01:16 GMT
#19693
What does "having the #1 seed" mean for idra going into the finals?

As far as i know, Naniwa has had the #1 seed for a long time, and that just means he got much harder groups each time =/
Cryogenic
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada75 Posts
October 17 2011 01:16 GMT
#19694
I am so happy that one of my favorite players (HuK) won this! In terms of the nationality "debate", he has said in various interviews that he considers himself FROM BOTH COUNTRIES. A Canadian-American, or an American-Canadian. Regardless, a foreigner beat down some Koreans at MLG. Hell yeah.
"If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place." - Nora Roberts .:| Scarlett |:.
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
October 17 2011 01:16 GMT
#19695
So happy to see HuK win with is father there after not seeing him for a year!
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 01:19:34
October 17 2011 01:17 GMT
#19696
On October 17 2011 10:14 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:10 Rayansaki wrote:

On October 17 2011 10:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:04 Ownos wrote:
On October 17 2011 10:00 Noxblood wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:59 AdreN- wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 MasterKush wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:57 HUANYSTAKES wrote:
HOW MUCH $$ DOES HUK RECEIVE ? 50K?


$5000

20% of what Stephano got for IPL. TT

Although MLG has already announced that their prize pool will be increased next season.


But because of the GSL partnership winning a MLG is more impressive than a IPL. Not saying that Stephanos win inn IPL wasn't EXTREMELY impressive!


IPL didn't have Koreans?

MLG had better Koreans


IEM NY had better Koreans

:[]


Of the Koreans at IEM NY, Fruitdealer is Code A, Top is in the Up and Down, and the only solid Code Ser(discounting FDs historic accomplishments, and he does seem to have regained his steam) there was DRG.


and TSL Killer, the best placed protoss of October GSL code S with his impressive ro16 result !

Going by the results of last October GSL from all the players , IEM NY had: The best placed korean protoss, the best placed korean zerg
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 17 2011 01:17 GMT
#19697
On October 17 2011 10:14 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 09:52 Probasaur wrote:
That settles it, he's american.. GTFO canada


But he won this victory for his father, who came down from Canada... ergo, this is a victory for Canada!

THE POWER OF [my gratuitously biased] LOGIC COMPELS YOU!

ROFL
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
ScythedBlade
Profile Joined May 2010
308 Posts
October 17 2011 01:17 GMT
#19698
People are really discrediting the stuff here. HuK's micro was so much greater than MC, and HuK even mind-gamed thought out MC. So, seriously, it was an epic final. It wasn't even a (oh, this guy lost because he wasn't good.)

It was HuK knowing MC and what he does since he plays next to him every day.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
October 17 2011 01:17 GMT
#19699
sorry if this is stupid but I have tried and even used the search function but where can I see the vods from the finals? I saw a couple of guys saying the rewind option was avaiable but where are you using that?
Noxblood
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway374 Posts
October 17 2011 01:18 GMT
#19700
On October 17 2011 10:07 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:00 Azarkon wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:51 Goshdarnit wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:48 TexDrum wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:45 catabowl wrote:
On October 17 2011 09:43 Noxblood wrote:
what does slasher do now?


Nothing... only non followers consider Huk a "Foreigner"

Anyone who trains in Korea under that atmosphere is considered a "Korean" player.



See this makes no sense. The reason that koreans are so good is because they train so hard. If a foreigner moves to korea to become as good as them, why does he suddenly become a korean? If that's true, then koreans will ALWAYS be on top, because everybody will just call the best foreigners korean, regardless of where they practice, just because they adopt the korean method of training.


True. The whole "discussion" is stupid but you can't jsut make people korean at a whim.

Also HuK is soo short next to plott brothers and co.


The discussion, as it were, is a silly argument over semantics, which only occurs because people are not willing to look at what's really being discussed.

What we learned from this tournament is -

1. "Korean" (ie dedicated, full-time) training is what makes the difference between Koreans and foreigners.


it's not.
stephano plays just euro ladder for some hours a day and can beat almost everybody.
and tbh, just playing in korea won't make u superstar, there is more to it.
look at jinro for example.

Jinro isn't the best dude to pull out as an example. just because he got 2 semi finals inn GSL. he is inn a slope. just like MC was, just like idra was it is just a little longer. People become better the more u practice. Stephano plays more than 3-4 hours a day. he said that when i play more than 4 hours a day i start loosing. Too become the best u most likely have to play and practice inn Korea. But that do not make you a Korean!
Life isn't hard, we just suck at it.
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