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No player/caster bashing, or balance whining. Bans will be handed out like candy. (page 131)
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
October 15 2011 06:21 GMT
#5341
On October 15 2011 15:04 ohampatu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 15:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On October 15 2011 14:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 15 2011 14:56 MuseMike wrote:
On October 15 2011 14:51 Jezdog wrote:
Tasteless & Day9 tomorrow PLEASE

They have already said that they will not cast together.


How come the plott brothers won't cast together?


They're brothers and get competitive. They've played each other at Starcraft for a decade. They compete in everything. That's why, lol.



Yes the plott brothers rarely cast together. Artosis and Day9 do rarely, thats bout it.


ps. i haven't seen it yet, but i dream of a day when day 9 and idra cast together


In the early days of SC2 the 3 of them would cast together, but you rarely see Sean and Nick casting as a duo. It's almost like they need the 3rd person to balance the force :p
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
October 15 2011 06:23 GMT
#5342
I reckon Stephano for Pool A, MarineKing for Pool B, aLive for Pool C and HasuObs for Pool D.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 15 2011 06:27 GMT
#5343
On October 15 2011 15:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I reckon Stephano for Pool A, MarineKing for Pool B, aLive for Pool C and HasuObs for Pool D.

Hasu need to beat SaSe first lol. And I think Sase is a pretty big prick for him to beat, both have great micro, just give Sase a bit advantage cuz he trains in Korea.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 15 2011 06:35 GMT
#5344
On October 15 2011 15:20 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 14:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Now, Handicapping the Pool Play:

Pool A:

Idra just needs to beat TLO and he's very unlikely to get MKP in his Pool. MKP is the only player in the Open that can 5-0 a Pool.

We all really want Jinro to make Pools, as we get a Jinro vs Idra rematch! That'd be awesome.

Pool B:

Bomber is winning this group. This is MKP's most likely group to land into. Which, while I think MKP can take Bomber (2-1 series), I don't know if MKP can 5-0 the entire Pool. Pool B is far & away the hardest of the lot.


Pool C:

Ret just needs to beat Rain. That puts him 4-0 and the winner of Alive & Inori should end up here. Ret actually beat Alive @ IPL 3 and I think he's playing better right now anyway.


Pool D:

Huk has Hero to play still. This group is *anything* but set. Huk, Hero, July or the player from the Open bracket (winner of STC vs Stephano, most likely) could all take this. If Huk beats Hero, though, he likely comes out of this group.


For the Championship Quarters, it's A vs D and B vs C.

We're on track for: Idra vs Huk & Bomber vs Ret. I soooooooooo want that.

Why do you think MKP is unlikely to go into Group A? My predictions to advance are:

MKP (37 seed)
Stephano (40 seed)
aLive (38 seed)
SaSe (39 seed)

These 4 are the favourites. If these 4 do come out, then MKP goes straight into Pool A. In fact, the only way MKP won't make it is if a higher seed comes out (the only ones with a realistic chance are Jinro/Vibe) or MKP doesn't come out of the open bracket. Aside from that, there is a very very high chance MKP heads over to Pool A.


Jinro and Vibe could both take their brackets, and MKP over HwaingSin isn't a given, yet. MKP has a good chance to make Pool A, but I wouldn't handicap it that way, just yet.

That and I really, really want Idra vs Jinro again, haha. There's also the issue that if Stephano beats STC, he'll have to play a ZvZ. A little bad luck and Vibe or DarkCell come out of Bracket 1.
dsl2000
Profile Joined July 2011
8 Posts
October 15 2011 06:42 GMT
#5345
whats going on? are the games already over? been waiting for a while now =(
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 15 2011 06:45 GMT
#5346
So I need to pay to watch vods?

And idra boxer not played?
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
October 15 2011 06:45 GMT
#5347
stephano vs stc is no given either... stephano was playing tired in his series against white ra, and thestc is no pushover and won't be surprised by stephano's style this time. It will be stephano's toughest hurdle thus far.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 15 2011 06:45 GMT
#5348
On October 15 2011 15:35 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 15:20 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 15 2011 14:59 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Now, Handicapping the Pool Play:

Pool A:

Idra just needs to beat TLO and he's very unlikely to get MKP in his Pool. MKP is the only player in the Open that can 5-0 a Pool.

We all really want Jinro to make Pools, as we get a Jinro vs Idra rematch! That'd be awesome.

Pool B:

Bomber is winning this group. This is MKP's most likely group to land into. Which, while I think MKP can take Bomber (2-1 series), I don't know if MKP can 5-0 the entire Pool. Pool B is far & away the hardest of the lot.


Pool C:

Ret just needs to beat Rain. That puts him 4-0 and the winner of Alive & Inori should end up here. Ret actually beat Alive @ IPL 3 and I think he's playing better right now anyway.


Pool D:

Huk has Hero to play still. This group is *anything* but set. Huk, Hero, July or the player from the Open bracket (winner of STC vs Stephano, most likely) could all take this. If Huk beats Hero, though, he likely comes out of this group.


For the Championship Quarters, it's A vs D and B vs C.

We're on track for: Idra vs Huk & Bomber vs Ret. I soooooooooo want that.

Why do you think MKP is unlikely to go into Group A? My predictions to advance are:

MKP (37 seed)
Stephano (40 seed)
aLive (38 seed)
SaSe (39 seed)

These 4 are the favourites. If these 4 do come out, then MKP goes straight into Pool A. In fact, the only way MKP won't make it is if a higher seed comes out (the only ones with a realistic chance are Jinro/Vibe) or MKP doesn't come out of the open bracket. Aside from that, there is a very very high chance MKP heads over to Pool A.


Jinro and Vibe could both take their brackets, and MKP over HwaingSin isn't a given, yet. MKP has a good chance to make Pool A, but I wouldn't handicap it that way, just yet.

That and I really, really want Idra vs Jinro again, haha. There's also the issue that if Stephano beats STC, he'll have to play a ZvZ. A little bad luck and Vibe or DarkCell come out of Bracket 1.

I don't know... there's a chance Jinro beats hasu/sase. But I think it's small. His TvP hasn't been great historically. But his form is much better now so there is a chance.

I mean, yea its possible MKP won't be the highest seed. But I'd say odds are MKP joins pool A.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 15 2011 06:47 GMT
#5349
On October 15 2011 14:46 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 14:37 McFeser wrote:
Bracket 2 is very easy though. Hwaingsin is really bad. MKP is really good.


hwangsin is pretty good

Hwangsin maaay cheese out MKP in two games. But Hwangsin just isn't on the same level as MKP in a macro game.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 15 2011 06:48 GMT
#5350
Hey guys what time does it start tomorrow morning when should i set my alarm?
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 15 2011 06:49 GMT
#5351
On October 15 2011 15:45 Alpina wrote:
So I need to pay to watch vods?

And idra boxer not played?


http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Orlando_Red
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Orlando_Blue

They seem to have just restarted airing the entire day.

Idra & Boxer did play.

ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 15 2011 06:50 GMT
#5352
On October 15 2011 15:45 Alpina wrote:
So I need to pay to watch vods?

And idra boxer not played?

During the night you can replay the whole days stream watch anything you want
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 15 2011 06:52 GMT
#5353
On October 15 2011 15:49 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 15:45 Alpina wrote:
So I need to pay to watch vods?

And idra boxer not played?


http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Orlando_Red
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Orlando_Blue

They seem to have just restarted airing the entire day.

Idra & Boxer did play.



Ahh I can fast-forward :D thought I must watch whole thing ^^
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
October 15 2011 06:54 GMT
#5354
wowowow Idra, Ret, and Huk all 6-1........factoring in Idra/Stephano's last two major tournament wins, could it really be that we are watching the rise of the foreigners?

Is this the fall of the Korean Kings?

Only time will tell....I CANT wait for tomorrow!
<3 Moonbattles
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 07:04:46
October 15 2011 06:54 GMT
#5355
Whoa Incontrol won a game. Beasting it.
Can't wait to see who gets in what pools from open, too bad bracket 1 had like half my favorites from open >,< Pool A and C are pretty weak compared to B and D, hope they get the strongest open players to even things out a bit.
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
October 15 2011 06:56 GMT
#5356
iNcontrol took a game, good to see. Seems like Tyler's special PvP builds aren't working, and I'm surprised again by how good ret is performing. If only he can keep it up
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 15 2011 06:57 GMT
#5357
On October 15 2011 15:47 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 14:46 kinglemon wrote:
On October 15 2011 14:37 McFeser wrote:
Bracket 2 is very easy though. Hwaingsin is really bad. MKP is really good.


hwangsin is pretty good

Hwangsin maaay cheese out MKP in two games. But Hwangsin just isn't on the same level as MKP in a macro game.


Which is why I didn't handicap MKP to Pool A, lol. HwangSin is a complete wildcard.

As for Jinro, we haven't seen a lot of him lately. I do think SaSe would beat him, but SaSe vs HasuObs is no given.

There's that other thing that Gosuwer beat Polt. Him vs MKP could be real interesting. (Though MKP's style is much better suited for this type of tournament.)

And Alive is kind of lucky. He won't have to deal with a foreigner Zerg until Pool Play. His lot in foreign tournaments is to get knocked out by a foreigner Zerg.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 07:08:59
October 15 2011 07:02 GMT
#5358
Does anyone know what the order of players going into pool play is?

Is it definitely:
Top seed into Pool A
2nd seed into Pool B
3rd seed into Pool C
4th seed into Pool D

I thought I remembered them doing something weird/different last time... but liquipedia says it is the above.

EDIT: Nevermind. Just checked some previous MLGs. Seems to be that way.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 15 2011 07:08 GMT
#5359
On October 15 2011 15:54 Perseverance wrote:
wowowow Idra, Ret, and Huk all 6-1........factoring in Idra/Stephano's last two major tournament wins, could it really be that we are watching the rise of the foreigners?

Is this the fall of the Korean Kings?

Only time will tell....I CANT wait for tomorrow!


Someone not named MKP has to beat Bomber. I don't know if anyone here can do that.

The problem the foreigner scene has right now isn't the whole strength, which has caught up a lot with the investment. The issues is those top 10 players. The highest foreigners have gotten is during GSL January when Idra & Jinro were top 15 in the world. Someone has to knock out Bomber and that's not an easy task. Especially since MVP and MMA aren't here.

But, who knows, someone might have something up their sleeve to knock him out, but he's pretty much got a line right straight to the finals. Unless MKP shows up in his group and beats him.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
October 15 2011 07:08 GMT
#5360
On October 15 2011 15:54 Perseverance wrote:
wowowow Idra, Ret, and Huk all 6-1........factoring in Idra/Stephano's last two major tournament wins, could it really be that we are watching the rise of the foreigners?

Is this the fall of the Korean Kings?

Only time will tell....I CANT wait for tomorrow!


I don't think it's much of a surprise, huk has always been good, idra definitely up there when he plays well and I think most people would expect ret to beat hongun and rain. Bomber on the other hand is looking really good, we'll have to see who gets seeded into pool play tmr. But this is definitely a good MLG for foreigners to take top spots in pool play.
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