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Otolia
France5805 Posts
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
I understand what you're trying to say but what you're saying doesn't deny that talent exists - depending on what your definition of talent is. I think we should just ignore that topic, enjoy the games and accept that Top won because he just killed Mana, be it skill, decision making, luck or terran op'ness  | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:43 s4life wrote: Everything can be learned.. true enough, but you only have 24 hours in a day and approx 20000 days before you die.. that's where talent kicks in. exactly. talent is a huge factor. it seems we are breeding a culture of people that are so sensitive they have to believe everybody is equally made and nobody is special as to not hurt anyone's feelings. what a load of crap. talent is real. | ||
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SPQR13
181 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:37 Tarotis wrote: Yes, I deny exactly that. Everything can be trained and learned if your neurons connect the right way. Dont want to go too deep into that as I cant write that down in english  no you are wrong, im sure nature gave some guys some rts game understanding talent, hell, even sc2 game understanding in particular | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:46 iLikeRain wrote: In a little more than 4 hours if I'm correct nice ) DEFINITELY gonna watch that! mlg ftw | ||
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Brainiac
Poland641 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:41 s4life wrote: In hindsight you can argue anything no matter how shitty it sounds a priory.. the truth is, Sjow won his Ro32 match and as per rules he's a proven Code A player, the rest is just your own bias showing. Then you say elfi lost to Edge, and then go on to crucify him.. wtf? why are you so quick to judge before even watching the games? I'm following a SC2 scene pretty much from beginning. I won't say that Sjow is a bad player, but I won't say he is very good either. Sure, he won tournaments in the past, but lately he is not doing so well. I would argue about him "being a proven Code A player". As I said, if you watched his games in Code A he was really unimpressing (In Ro32 he won only because Maka started to goof around and made like 5 ccs unnecesary while he was already up 1:0 and really ahead in a game) - that is why I say he lucked out + he was invited. Again, I wanna emphasize - I think Sjow is certainly not bad by any means, but he never impressed me in a game of SC2. I won't judge that elfi is bad either (I've said medicore), but honestly, he didn't win anything big. | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:46 windsupernova wrote: But they had a lot of training too :\ can't we all agree that both are important? absolutely. look at my previous posts. I clearly said HARD WORK AND DEDICATION is important. but talent is very real. you mix in hard work and talent and you have a recipe for success. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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ssg
United States1773 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
Also these mics they are using are astoundingly worse. | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:46 SPQR13 wrote: no you are wrong, im sure nature gave some guys some rts game understanding talent, hell, even sc2 game understanding in particular 100% correct. most recent example I can think of is Stephano. He apparently doens't practice much but watching him play and his decision making/understanding of the game (which at the core is strategy) you can clearly see he's very talented. When you watch savior play back in bw days, you can clearly see he had talent as well. I can't believe people here are really trying to say and believe talent is not real. Unbelievable | ||
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Harrad
1003 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:51 jj33 wrote: 100% correct. most recent example I can think of is Stephano. He apparently doens't practice much but watching him play and his decision making/understanding of the game (which at the core is strategy) you can clearly see he's very talented. When you watch savior play back in bw days, you can clearly see he had talent as well. I can't believe people here are really trying to say and believe talent is not real. Unbelievable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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pallidiog
37 Posts
In fact it is ALL about talent and personality, and training is just a requirement. Plz stop kidding youself. you watched to many hollywood movies i think. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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paintfive
785 Posts
On October 15 2011 01:40 ramon wrote: science hasn't proven anything, i am a psychologist (basically studying nature and nurture) and it is one of the most debated topic at most studies hint at every ability having different parts being controlled by one or the other example (made up): chess skill is only genetic, monopoly skill only learned example (real): whether you use a seatbelt is determined 72% by your genes, whether you use a helmet only 20% (factor analysis) it doesn't make logical sense why certain things are more genetical than others, so it is pretty useless to argue about it Those statistics are really intresting. Do you have a link so I can read more into it? | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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ssg
United States1773 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
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