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Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 14 2011 20:54 GMT
#2181
I didn't know Bitters was from the SE U.S. Does anyone know what State he's from?
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
October 14 2011 20:54 GMT
#2182
On October 15 2011 05:53 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:52 Talin wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:51 Kon-Tiki wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 cyprin wrote:
so many protoss
gross :[


Now you know how protoss players feel about Code S >.<


Protoss fanboys maybe.

I'd still rather see MVP play a top level game than SangHo fumble in quarterfinals. -_-

This GSL final is fucking great, can't complain about that.


Until you realize it will end 4-0 like all other finals... :/
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2183
On October 15 2011 05:53 MorroW wrote:
wrong player ggs and nobody reacts or understands, wtf is this lol


as I said: only because the terrible observer didn't show the 12+ +2 attack BLINK stalkers pushing into fruitdealers completely undefended bases doesn't mean it was a premature gg.
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2184
On October 15 2011 05:52 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:51 Kon-Tiki wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 cyprin wrote:
so many protoss
gross :[


Now you know how protoss players feel about Code S >.<


Protoss fanboys maybe.

I'd still rather see MVP play a top level game than SangHo fumble in quarterfinals. -_-


True, but I'd rather see 30 good PvTs and ZvTs than 30 good TvTs. Something about mirror matchups...
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2185
I doubt your organizers want you promoting MLG when you're going up against it on Sat+Sun...
Brown Boy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada39 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2186
Well the crowd sucks because it is a Comic Con not just a gaming event. MLG crowd is so much better than this.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:59:20
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2187
On October 15 2011 04:44 Xeris wrote:
You NEVER change the result of games already played this is complete trash administrating. How do these people get fucking paid full time to do this shit?

Hmmm didnt you get everyone def win vs Painuser in NASL season1? Even if Painuser took a game off or my memory is fuzy?
Also wasn't ther also a score "adjustment" in GCPL and EG MastersCup?

Didn't see you bashing them...
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:55:55
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2188
On October 15 2011 05:54 trucane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:53 clusen wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:52 Talin wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:51 Kon-Tiki wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 cyprin wrote:
so many protoss
gross :[


Now you know how protoss players feel about Code S >.<


Protoss fanboys maybe.

I'd still rather see MVP play a top level game than SangHo fumble in quarterfinals. -_-

This GSL final is fucking great, can't complain about that.


Until you realize it will end 4-0 like all other finals... :/


Nah Code A and Code S finals switched in terms of enjoyment This is the first Code A final that sucked so this will be the first Code S final which will be great *fingers crossed*
Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2189
On October 15 2011 05:54 Tewks44 wrote:
I didn't know Bitters was from the SE U.S. Does anyone know what State he's from?


Georgia.

-Cross
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2190
On October 15 2011 05:51 Haydin wrote:
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On October 15 2011 05:49 s3rp wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:46 clusen wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:43 s3rp wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:39 Chewbacca. wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:38 s3rp wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:34 windsupernova wrote:
I hate Mutas when I play P >__<

Penixes really need to do some kind of splash damage


You've got to be kidding me, phoenix already destroy mutas unless they are greatly outnumbered. Archons/Templar are protoss's AOE method of dealing with muta.


Mutas will allways outnumber Phoenix and are way more useful overall.


That may be true, but if phoenixes had AOE mutas would be completely useless considering how much damage phoenix already do to them.


Well you could change to building time of Phoenix to compensate or something . But tbh i ALOT of units make other units completely useless and Phoenix really countering Mutas would not be a bad thing.

Phoenix already build about as fast as marines with CB

Mutas are suicide against 2 stargates....

Phoenix are fine against Mutas. Toss has other problems vs zerg :p


Well i got no idea about the ZvP matchup it's just allways once the Zerg gets 20+ Mutas against Toss the Toss just loses every time because the Zerg never engages and 20+ Mutas kill any static defense Toss can build.


A templar or two can really help vs mutas. They're not a perfect defense, but they do really make a difference.



You dont even need templars all u need is like 3-4 archons and then regluar blink stalkers. Its like anything just like in ZvT. If you force the zerg to force the Mutas to magic box then they lose their whole point. A muta alone CANNOT solo a stalker or archon for that matter. Strength in mutas are when they can bunch up and cause bounce damage. If you force them to spread out and have a proper army and UPGRADES (which a protoss should always get with chrono boost) then you can destroy mutas
JD, need I say more? :D
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:56:34
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2191
On October 15 2011 05:55 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:52 Talin wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:51 Kon-Tiki wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 cyprin wrote:
so many protoss
gross :[


Now you know how protoss players feel about Code S >.<


Protoss fanboys maybe.

I'd still rather see MVP play a top level game than SangHo fumble in quarterfinals. -_-


True, but I'd rather see 30 good PvTs and ZvTs than 30 good TvTs. Something about mirror matchups...


So would I... but I'm just not seeing any.

Still, it's interesting to see FD bring out his old wacky aggression at least. Makes games amusing.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 14 2011 20:55 GMT
#2192
On October 15 2011 05:53 MorroW wrote:
wrong player ggs and nobody reacts or understands, wtf is this lol

All the cool kids must be at MLG.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
October 14 2011 20:56 GMT
#2193
On October 15 2011 05:55 Spitmode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:53 MorroW wrote:
wrong player ggs and nobody reacts or understands, wtf is this lol


as I said: only because the terrible observer didn't show the 12+ +2 attack BLINK stalkers pushing into fruitdealers completely undefended bases doesn't mean it was a premature gg.

And DTs when FD didn´t have detection up(?).
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 14 2011 20:56 GMT
#2194
On October 15 2011 05:55 Brown Boy wrote:
Well the crowd sucks because it is a Comic Con not just a gaming event. MLG crowd is so much better than this.


I can't wait to see another MLG Anaheim crowd. I think that is the only event I've watched where the crowd literally roared like a concert or something.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12716 Posts
October 14 2011 20:56 GMT
#2195
On October 15 2011 05:15 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:13 ETisME wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:10 mitthrawn wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:06 Kazang wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:59 mitthrawn wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:55 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:45 Xeris wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:44 mcc wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:41 Xeris wrote:
Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?

They should apologize to DRG for messing up and having him play the wrong opponent, not cancel the result of a game already played

Why ? Is it more unfair then DRG having to play harder opponent when he ended up 1st in the group ? Sticking to system is better as one way or another you are being unfair to someone, so at least it is according to rules.


Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game

now they just apologize to TT1 for fucking up isn't doing the same thing and getting it right?

what the hell is wrong with you guys? you just dont do that AFTER an official match has been played.

Very bad move by IEM. Apparently IPL raised the bar of being professional way too high last week. IEM just bombed esports back into the stone age.


TT1 essentially got a free win because of an error, and Top who legitimately owned his group would have had to play DRG.
Top having to play DRG in the Ro8 would have been a joke.

They are correcting their error, if they don't all the results are void because they are not legitimate.

If you were Top or DRG who legitimately won their groups would you be happy that you got openly screwed?
TT1 is not getting screwed, he has to play who he has to play according to the rules and how he played in the group. He's just not getting a free advantage from an error. Disappointing for him but taking advantage of the error would be both unsporting and call any results from the tournament into question.

Transfer that into real sports like NFL, NBA or Champions League in Football. And tell me they would do the same thing IEM just did. :facepalm:

that's how I feel about it too...
if this ever happened in real sports, the tournament definitly will get sued all over

What the fuck? No it wouldn't. If a legitimate mistake happened that screwed up the seeding of a major tournament i'm 100% sure the tournament organizers would follow their own rules (whatever they may be). If the rules stated that they would have to replay games in a mistake like this, then they would replay games and no one would get sued. sometimes my head hurts when i read shit like this.

yes, the rematch is correct, they have the obligation to follow their rules.
but they also owns an obligation to the players that the correct matches are play and the player should be able to get compensate.
the reason why you don't see these cases in court is because these rarely happen in major sport tournaments.

On October 15 2011 05:16 klaxen wrote:
Regarding people claiming professional sports wouldn't do this... I know the NBA has replayed the last minute or so of several games over the last few years when later on they found it a mistake had been made (i remember one game Shaq was supposed to have fouled out or something but the ref missed it), so they rescheduled the last -1- minute of that game.

*edit* ok, so apparently it has only happened once since 1982, but here is the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3192421

this is different.
Use football as an example, if you scored a goal and the ref called in, even if it was offside, it would still be counted as a goal even if proved by computers. The goal will stay until the match is over and then the team can appeal to court.

But this game is more than just a "goal", we are talking about an entire match here.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
October 14 2011 20:56 GMT
#2196
On October 15 2011 05:55 ssg wrote:
I doubt your organizers want you promoting MLG when you're going up against it on Sat+Sun...

ESPORTS supports ESPORTS. What's wrong with you?

I'm sure IEM and associates are cool with that.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 14 2011 20:57 GMT
#2197
On October 15 2011 05:53 MorroW wrote:
wrong player ggs and nobody reacts or understands, wtf is this lol

1. It's FruitDealer
2. After all that has happened these last weeks (including today) there is just so many f***s to give at the moment...
3. Everyone's cheering for toss atm as it seems
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
October 14 2011 20:57 GMT
#2198
Haha I heard a bit of dutch from Rotterdam there.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
October 14 2011 20:57 GMT
#2199
On October 15 2011 05:56 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:55 Brown Boy wrote:
Well the crowd sucks because it is a Comic Con not just a gaming event. MLG crowd is so much better than this.


I can't wait to see another MLG Anaheim crowd. I think that is the only event I've watched where the crowd literally roared like a concert or something.


I was there!! :D
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
October 14 2011 20:57 GMT
#2200
On October 15 2011 05:53 MorroW wrote:
wrong player ggs and nobody reacts or understands, wtf is this lol


I just thought Fruitdealers decision-making wasn't good enough to win.
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