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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:37:04
October 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#2041
On October 15 2011 05:35 Whalecore wrote:
Mass Muta so strong.

Getting ripped by it on ladder these days as well.. zerg found out how strong mutas are.

Mutas have been used for so long and have always been strong. SangHo made some stupid mistaked that cost him the game.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
October 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#2042
On October 15 2011 05:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Is anyone bother by constant hp bar shown on iem stream? Gisado, GSL announce also says this on his twitter a few day ago when he saw it in ipl3 . it's become cartooney.


No, I prefer it. I don't care how it looks, I want all the information possible.

At IPL they had a poll and the majority wanted healthbars on, so they stuck with that.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#2043
And where is their own overlay on IEM? If you keep calling him FD (which he is) take 30 seconds to make an overlay and put the actual players names up there rather then using blizzard's horrid default name overlay
JD, need I say more? :D
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#2044
On October 14 2011 20:38 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 20:28 Eee wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:56 Za7oX wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 Waxangel wrote:
Would it kill IEM to have two SC II streams?

I know, we miss so many matches T_T

Anyway, I want MaNa to win this whole thing!!!!

Edit: Does TOP not have to play TT1?

You also have Edge vs Axslav twice XD


Sometimes Mr Bitter and Rotterdam choose different matches to cast on main stage depending of the importance of the match ( if someone needs to win a game to get top 2 in a group, compared to if the other game is 2 people going 0-2 or something).

I think when the next season starts Carmac will try to get intel and the other sponsors to put more money into IEM. If they don't they might get left behind compared to what MLG and other tournaments are putting out.


Are you serious!?
IEM is putting far more money than mlg they have a bigger price pool at their circuit events and at their grand finals. Please don't post bs like that if you don't even have an idea of what you're talking about.


I said when the next IEM season starts which is in 2012 when MLG plan to have $1.5 million for sc2


MLG also "planned" to increase the prizepool by a lot this year according to what was established prior to that statement and they failed to deliver.

Take their words with a grain of salt.

I am not trying to hate on mlg or something, but sundance sure loves to hype stuff even though it might not happen.
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#2045
On October 15 2011 05:31 LaGTTBloodThirsty wrote:
eh its soooo hard to watch this tournament the lack of chemistry and knowledge of the game behind the casters is aggravating. Does anyone else notice this or am i just being too critical? I feel like if you are going to cast you should have the knowledge of each race in the game equivalent to grand masters knowledge in order to cast big tournaments.

your post is so wrong T.T
i think they work really well together. and about their knowledge: rotterdam is probably the most skilled full time caster and bitter is pretty good aswell (high master i think).
mitthrawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany443 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#2046
On October 15 2011 05:32 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:31 LaGTTBloodThirsty wrote:
eh its soooo hard to watch this tournament the lack of chemistry and knowledge of the game behind the casters is aggravating. Does anyone else notice this or am i just being too critical? I feel like if you are going to cast you should have the knowledge of each race in the game equivalent to grand masters knowledge in order to cast big tournaments.


lol, Rotterdam is more knowledgable than almost any other caster, and plays the game at a higher level than virtually anyone else casting regularly.

Bitter for his part is a very competent high masters Zerg...

===

Killer forced into an all in, don't like his chances in this

Rotterdam calls games wrong all the time it's not even funny. Mostly when a Protoss is involved.
/o\
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1774 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#2047
I kind of missed the end, but didn't Killer have a favorable army there at the end or no? He still more than likely would have lost, but seems like he should have played it out.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#2048
On October 15 2011 05:36 Whalecore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Is anyone bother by constant hp bar shown on iem stream? Gisado, GSL announce also says this on his twitter a few day ago when he saw it in ipl3 . it's become cartooney.

HP bar always on is nice because we get more info and can see if units are weak or strong.

So many times in other tournaments I have no idea if units have 20% or 50% or full HP


You can see HP from the wireframe. It is seriously annoying to have the entire screen taken up by a bunch of colored bars
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#2049
On October 15 2011 05:36 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
muta play is so annoying. just harass and then basetrade. as a protoss you will never get out of your base and die from time to time because zerg takes the whole map.


I'm wondering if we're going to see mass phoenix develop as a counter to this kind of style. I'm no pro but I can't see any real weakness mass phoenix would have if you were really good about using graviton beam.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2050
On October 15 2011 05:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Is anyone bother by constant hp bar shown on iem stream? Gisado, GSL announce also says this on his twitter a few day ago when he saw it in ipl3 . it's become cartooney.
observer can turn on hp bar with Alt button during battle.


I actually prefer health bars turned on. Would be nice to have some kind of poll showing what the average viewer prefers?
God is dead.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2051
Phoenixes are bad vs Muta. (Off topic, but just crossed my mind)
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2052
lol that was dirty by FruitDealer, Sangho why wouldn't you bring probes lol facepalm. Exciting tho
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2053
On October 15 2011 05:37 rareh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 20:38 Za7oX wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:28 Eee wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:56 Za7oX wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 Waxangel wrote:
Would it kill IEM to have two SC II streams?

I know, we miss so many matches T_T

Anyway, I want MaNa to win this whole thing!!!!

Edit: Does TOP not have to play TT1?

You also have Edge vs Axslav twice XD


Sometimes Mr Bitter and Rotterdam choose different matches to cast on main stage depending of the importance of the match ( if someone needs to win a game to get top 2 in a group, compared to if the other game is 2 people going 0-2 or something).

I think when the next season starts Carmac will try to get intel and the other sponsors to put more money into IEM. If they don't they might get left behind compared to what MLG and other tournaments are putting out.


Are you serious!?
IEM is putting far more money than mlg they have a bigger price pool at their circuit events and at their grand finals. Please don't post bs like that if you don't even have an idea of what you're talking about.


I said when the next IEM season starts which is in 2012 when MLG plan to have $1.5 million for sc2


MLG also "planned" to increase the prizepool by a lot this year according to what was established prior to that statement and they failed to deliver.

Take their words with a grain of salt.

I am not trying to hate on mlg or something, but sundance sure loves to hype stuff even though it might not happen.

SC2 has been WAY more successful in 2011 than in 2010 for MLG, so it's extremely likely 2012 will feature a much bigger prize pool.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2054
On October 15 2011 05:37 mitthrawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:32 Asha` wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:31 LaGTTBloodThirsty wrote:
eh its soooo hard to watch this tournament the lack of chemistry and knowledge of the game behind the casters is aggravating. Does anyone else notice this or am i just being too critical? I feel like if you are going to cast you should have the knowledge of each race in the game equivalent to grand masters knowledge in order to cast big tournaments.


lol, Rotterdam is more knowledgable than almost any other caster, and plays the game at a higher level than virtually anyone else casting regularly.

Bitter for his part is a very competent high masters Zerg...

===

Killer forced into an all in, don't like his chances in this

Rotterdam calls games wrong all the time it's not even funny. Mostly when a Protoss is involved.


thats what every caster do all the time. lol
Progamer
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2055
On October 15 2011 05:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Is anyone bother by constant hp bar shown on iem stream? Gisado, GSL announce also says this on his twitter a few day ago when he saw it in ipl3 . it's become cartooney.
observer can turn on hp bar with Alt button during battle.

i think it's better to have health bars on, you're just missing out on so much information without them.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2056
On October 15 2011 05:34 windsupernova wrote:
I hate Mutas when I play P >__<

Penixes really need to do some kind of splash damage


yea penixes tho? but maybe they should just launch nukes per attack and destroy muta balls in one shot........ Phoenix micro if u know how to micro can endlessly kite mutas. Unless u r a noob and dunno how to micro and just 1a ur phoenix into the mutas then yes u should lose all ur mutas
JD, need I say more? :D
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2057
On October 15 2011 05:37 ssg wrote:
I kind of missed the end, but didn't Killer have a favorable army there at the end or no? He still more than likely would have lost, but seems like he should have played it out.

he would not have been back in his base in time to save his last buildings, therefore he gg'ed out
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:38:56
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2058
On October 15 2011 05:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:34 windsupernova wrote:
I hate Mutas when I play P >__<

Penixes really need to do some kind of splash damage


You've got to be kidding me, phoenix already destroy mutas unless they are greatly outnumbered. Archons/Templar are protoss's AOE method of dealing with muta.


Mutas will allways outnumber Phoenix and are way more useful overall.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#2059
On October 15 2011 05:37 ssg wrote:
I kind of missed the end, but didn't Killer have a favorable army there at the end or no? He still more than likely would have lost, but seems like he should have played it out.


He had 2 buildings left on the map with the entire zerg army attacking them and his army was across the map? Wasn't going to play that out.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 14 2011 20:39 GMT
#2060
On October 15 2011 05:38 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:37 rareh wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:38 Za7oX wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:28 Eee wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:56 Za7oX wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 14 2011 12:51 Waxangel wrote:
Would it kill IEM to have two SC II streams?

I know, we miss so many matches T_T

Anyway, I want MaNa to win this whole thing!!!!

Edit: Does TOP not have to play TT1?

You also have Edge vs Axslav twice XD


Sometimes Mr Bitter and Rotterdam choose different matches to cast on main stage depending of the importance of the match ( if someone needs to win a game to get top 2 in a group, compared to if the other game is 2 people going 0-2 or something).

I think when the next season starts Carmac will try to get intel and the other sponsors to put more money into IEM. If they don't they might get left behind compared to what MLG and other tournaments are putting out.


Are you serious!?
IEM is putting far more money than mlg they have a bigger price pool at their circuit events and at their grand finals. Please don't post bs like that if you don't even have an idea of what you're talking about.


I said when the next IEM season starts which is in 2012 when MLG plan to have $1.5 million for sc2


MLG also "planned" to increase the prizepool by a lot this year according to what was established prior to that statement and they failed to deliver.

Take their words with a grain of salt.

I am not trying to hate on mlg or something, but sundance sure loves to hype stuff even though it might not happen.

SC2 has been WAY more successful in 2011 than in 2010 for MLG, so it's extremely likely 2012 will feature a much bigger prize pool.



sundance already hinted at a prize pool for the whole year next year being between 1.5-3million
JD, need I say more? :D
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