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probably shouldn't have gone for FFE though[IPL] Day 3 Live Report Thread - Page 298
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
probably shouldn't have gone for FFE though | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:35 bgx wrote: he saw speedling expand which noone does anymore, that should put him on alarm not to play FFE which is opposite of safe-play ... sigh what? watch any DRG game, he always opens up speedling expand. so everytime you are vs speedling expand=put up 4 cannons cause he MUST be roach rushing. give me a break buddy | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:33 phate wrote: Not in this case, he'd scouted the double expand for white-ra and knew he had a huge window where he would be under no pressure. I said that this case was ok, but it seems it is his default ZvP, that was what I was commenting on. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:35 windsupernova wrote: But he won! He must have cheesed! Don´t bother responding to those posts who didn´t even watch the games and yet cry. Apparently 1-1-1 can mean 1-Rax 1 Fact 1 Starport to 1- rax- 1 CC 1 Bunker and lets not forget 1- rax 1- tech lab 1- concussive shell Its especially bafflig after Top said in an interview that protoss are now holding the 1-1-1 Better + Show Spoiler + Question:questions from the fans, how to handle the 1-1-1 in TvP? any tactics for protoss? TOP - usually tosses block 1-1-1 well... one thing is going robo builds, if you do that you can match the terran well, with the immmortal range buff, hide the immortal, then snipe the tank with the hidden immortal might be a better way Huk also said he would hold the 1/1/1 and then got owned. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:35 deathly rat wrote: slush goes 14 gas 14 pool, WR forge first pylon block placed at slush expo, WR expo and cannon gateway wall off slush expo | ||
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julianto
2292 Posts
I didn't hear the diss or I didn't understand it. | ||
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freetgy
1720 Posts
obviously 1-1-1 doesn't win all the time, so 1 or 2 protoss will get a couple of wins against it... doesn't mean that it isn't still to hard to hold compared to the execution and skill needed. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
he was behind but he wasn't in an unwinnable situation he had enough stalkers and sentries + cannons in the third to hold off the mutas, all he had to do was ff the choke properly, in his natural he had 4+ cannons with a ton of stalkers that could have held off the impending ling/muta attack after getting ff'd out of the 3rd, he had blink nearly finished and he would have teched to either storms or colossi, depending on how many mutas there were i don't know why you guys are getting angry with my comment, but he really did lose that game due to the forcefields | ||
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BlindSC2
United Kingdom435 Posts
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Meself
Estonia552 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:35 Xxavi wrote: Why do people want to get others banned so often? Grow up, this is what sports brings - emotional fans. Don't try to make this academic discussion for fuck's sake. Go on and visit online fans forums for soccer etc., people are emotional, whining about this and that. It's normal, and it is supposed to be like that, not an academic discussion. Sorry people who complain about balance should be banned its very irritating when the other player clearly out played his opponent and played very well but gets no credit because supposedly his race is imbalanced. It was annoying when zergs did it (yes i'm zerg) and its annoying when terran/tosses do it. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:33 dcemuser wrote: An all-in is an attack that requires you to do a large amount of damage in order to survive. Slush cut like 12 drones... that's an all-in. He did a large amount of damage, so he came out ahead. All-ins are fine tactics though... people just wield the word like it is something evil. Lol. You confused "big timing attack" with "all-in." You have so many posts i PRAY you watch BW. Was the Marine-Medic-1 Tank timing an all in? You HAD to damage Zerg to stay even, but how many times did a Terran only slow down the third, not deal real damage, fall a bit behind, but expanded, got some workers and won later anyways? All in means you either win RIGHT NOW or you lose. Slush did a really strong timing and as long as he did damage he was fine and could get even or ahead. WOAH MY GOD. Again: ALL IN, means ALL IN. No followup, no later plan, just win now or lose. Pulling all your scvs = all-in'ing. Canceling your FE = all in. Building early Roaches and Lings to punish a greedy opening then dealing damage and droning+expanding = big push. The JYP and Anypro 7 gate attacks are not all in but are almost identical in principle to what Slush did. | ||
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:36 Olinim wrote: Huk also said he would hold the 1/1/1 and then got owned. You guys know that 2 other games took place while you were arguing right? | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:36 deathly rat wrote: pylon block placed at slush expo, WR expo and cannon gateway wall off slush expo 6:00 stargate for WR, slush just drones | ||
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:37 Meself wrote: Haha was Catz owning moletrap right now? Wrong player/caster? | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:36 julianto wrote: I didn't hear the diss or I didn't understand it. Cats appologized for interrupting Doa who responded with "It's ok I've gotten training" or something along those lines. | ||
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jazzyjazz
941 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:37 youngminii wrote: wait people seem to think whitera was boned and want to report me for my ff comment? he was behind but he wasn't in an unwinnable situation he had enough stalkers and sentries + cannons in the third to hold off the mutas, all he had to do was ff the choke properly, in his natural he had 4+ cannons with a ton of stalkers that could have held off the impending ling/muta attack after getting ff'd out of the 3rd, he had blink nearly finished and he would have teched to either storms or colossi, depending on how many mutas there were i don't know why you guys are getting angry with my comment, but he really did lose that game due to the forcefields I agree with you. He might have lost the 2nd game anyways since slush had a macro lead. But he could have held off the lings MUCH better with 2 or 3 well-placed forcefields. | ||
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furcifer
Norway54 Posts
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On October 09 2011 04:35 bgx wrote: he saw speedling expand which noone does anymore, that should put him on alarm not to play FFE which is opposite of safe-play ... sigh What the hell... no one does speedling expand? That is and has for a long time been the most standard ZvP opening. | ||
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