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On October 09 2011 04:00 Tuk wrote: what i dont understand is that
both players cheesed , puma had better decision making (or heroes was just bad (the nexus)) but somehow people on hero. :|
Go dig a hole and get inside. PROXY IS NOT CHEESE!!!!!!! And nothing that toss does can compare to 1-1-1. Also, Hero made lots of better decisions in that one game. I don't know why I am answering to you.
What better decisions did Hero make? Losing his VR for nothing? Going DTs against someone who has Ravens and is in the process of all-in attacking you? Saving to make a nexus against 0 economy where all he has to do is hold and he wins? Not forcefielding his ramp which would have given him time to get enough units? So many mistakes from Hero. Puma doesn't do anything special but he's just really solid and makes no big blunders.
Mistakes wouldn't cost him much, he let a proxy pylon and DTs kill every SCV but he was fine.
On October 09 2011 04:06 Xxavi wrote: OK, seriously, this "fantastic TvP of Puma" is based on what exactly? He is no MVP, he is no Nestea, he just happens to be a good player who can abuse certain features of his race.
But don't put him in the bracket of MC, Nestea or MVP, please. In fact, I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as DRG or Hero. These days, I have trouble rating any terran, it is not clear if he is really good or just knows to abuse certain strategies. Even Bomber is quite like that.
"a good player who can abuse certain features of his race" That pretty much sums up MC's style back then when he was actually winning. Why put him in the same bracket as NesTea and Mvp?
Perfect macro and impeccable micro. That's why MC is one of the top 3 in the world.
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote: Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss
You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.
Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ? I dont think so.
Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.
yes NASL finales
did you watch those games ? He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-
the series was a BO7 so he won 4 games not 2 and he didnt 1-1-1. that build was not all that popular
1/1/1 was not a relevant build during the NASL finals, thats why i wish puma would play straight up hes really good at PVT without the 1/1/1 and it makes for much more exciting games. Watching a protoss struggle to stop something he knows is coming doesnt make your the best games. And whoever said that game wasnt a 1/1/1 doesnt know what they are talking about , their are so many variations of 1/1/1 but the one that he used was the classic marine tank banshee raven the epitome of 1/1/1. 1/1/1 is any game where you open factory barracks starport, you could make hellions and medivacs and marauders and it would still be considered 1/1/1/.
On October 09 2011 04:07 RJGooner wrote: Could anyone explain to me how proxy voidray counters the 1-1-1? Cause it looks pretty goddamn bad against it to me.
It's not. It was a desperation move. You can't blame hero though cuz every "counter" to the 111 is essentially a desperation move
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote: Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss
You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.
Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ? I dont think so.
Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.
yes NASL finales
did you watch those games ? He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-
he didn't 1-1-1 at all, get your facts straight.
Hah you do know he made a push with banshee/raven/marine/siege tanks ? Thats 1/1/1
1-1-1 with 3 rax, enlighten me
That's how it's done properly Enlightened?
then in theory its just banshee play into 1 base all in, im so sick of omg 1-1-1 spam