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Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5381
1 hour behind the schedule
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5382
On October 09 2011 04:01 Hemula wrote:
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On October 09 2011 03:59 Ben... wrote:
The more I watch Puma play, the more I'm convinced he isn't actually anything special but a huge abuser of Terran. First MC, now Hero. Both outplay him by a mile yet he still wins by 1/1/1ing. As soon as 1/1/1 and ghosts are actually fixed his TvP will drop dramatically.

Was not MC an abuser of toss, when he was reaping everybody apart? If you can abuse it means you pretty damn good to do so. Mechanically and brain-wise.


If you can abuse, it means you'll be good in the first year or so of the game and you'll be gone when the game actually becomes good.

Whatever.

Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5383
On October 09 2011 03:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
agdfdhasjgsjhfgjkgkdfghfggfdj


Jinro explains that game perfectly.

It wasn't just a 1-1-1. Is was a proxy-stargate countered by 1-1-1 transition countered by fast Twight Council.

How could people not notice Puma TARGETTING DOWN THE OBSERVER so his Banshees could cloak with impunity? How could people not notice Hero preparing to proxy the DT before Puma even moved out?

It was a boxing match. Puma slugged a little harder. Great game and I am maining Protoss currently (normally random).
One Love
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5384
On October 09 2011 04:00 Budzlight wrote:
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On October 09 2011 03:56 Yaki wrote:
seriously what has the patch changed ? 111 is still overpowered


How is that a reference to this game? Hero held and kinda won but with that cocky expo im sure thats what cost the game. Both players did great.

So sad that Hero lost i had nerd chills coming on.


No it didn't, Hero didn't have the production to spend the minerals. May be it could have been spent in pylon + 2 gateways instead of nexus, but wouldn't have made a difference, the game ended right away.

1-1-1 is just sad.

And to those bashing on hero's cheese. He was certain PuMa was 1-1-1'ing on the decider on XNF, he does it all the time. Unscouted proxy stargate is a decent build against 1-1-1.
Darth Caedus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States326 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5385
Day 3 before a penis joke. IPL should really be commended.
Polt: "Those auto-turrets are cute." 10/26/13 commenting on MMA vs. Maru.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5386
On October 09 2011 04:01 MuseMike wrote:
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On October 09 2011 04:00 FairForever wrote:
While the 1-1-1 is strong...

1) Puma is actually pretty damn good. He beat MC in NASL with non 1-1-1 builds.
2) Hero did make some mistakes. He
a) Lost his phoenix for a few SCVs.
b) Built a nexus when he shouldn't have, he knew Puma wasn't mining.
c) Engaged terribly. In the last battle his force field was off and actually made it harder for the zealots to get to the marines.

I still don't like the DT play (Tester tried it vs DeMuslim) against the 1-1-1. Way too risky and an autolose if you don't do damage.

Except he killed all of pumas mining.


And he lost the void ray and the proxy stargate. His biggest mistake is the dt and the unnecessary expo.
The spice must flow
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5387
On October 09 2011 04:00 MuseMike wrote:
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On October 09 2011 03:59 Yenticha wrote:
I dont understand the 111 hate...
Its pretty obvious that Hero lost because of the weird Nexus... 4 extra zealots and he'd have won that.

He had no warp-in cycles and canceled the nexus. The warpgates were never idle.

At the same time, Then he should've had the gates down faster, it isn't like he got all those minerals just as he put the nexus down.

Sad that hero lost though, such brilliant play from him
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:04:05
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5388
On October 09 2011 04:00 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
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On October 09 2011 03:59 Vertical wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 MisterFred wrote:
Painuser's an idiot. Hero put up the nexus because he didn't have the production to use that money. Note he had about 400-500 in the bank at the end.

he could build a gateway

Which would be useless wouldnt have gotten close to getting up

still would have been better than a nexus?

I don't think you saw how hero had a fail contain break and losing almost all his units
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5389
White ra vs Slush.... I want them both to win QQ
Sinsai
Profile Joined June 2011
24 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5390
what the fuck? hero didnt lost this game cO instead of running with his last 5 probes into the marines he could easily switch them to his 2nd nexus. if he would warped 2 sentry's in @his expansion out there instead of warping the last 2 dt's? or were they dt's? don't know it, but he got enough gas, he could easily hold the last remaining 10 marines of puma out of his expansion until he got enough to beat them (everyone a oneshot for berserker..)
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5391
On October 09 2011 04:00 Tuk wrote:
what i dont understand is that

both players cheesed , puma had better decision making (or heroes was just bad (the nexus)) but somehow people on hero. :|

the nexus didnt mean shit he didnt have any way to spend his minerals cos his gates were unpowered/destroyed he even had like 500 mins at the end of the game mate
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5392
White-Ra vs SLush, at least this should have a protoss advancing ;<?
It appears I have been chosen.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
October 08 2011 19:02 GMT
#5393
On October 09 2011 03:59 Noocta wrote:
So i guess we can hate on PumA specificly now ?
Because he's one of the few terran to still use this kind of play after the patch.


and whats wrong with that?........
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5394
On October 09 2011 04:01 WickedBit wrote:
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On October 09 2011 03:58 arfyron wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.


Considering he loses every time he doeskin 111 i think its a fair statement . I hope he faces a zerg or terran next since 111 doesnt work then and he will lose just like against idra.

But that was a tense game. Hero did mostly everything write there but it came down to two things, loses those phoenixes and also morphing a nexus at the wrong time.

really? pretty sure I saw him win 2 games against JYP without the 1-1-1 and we just saw him win game 1 without a 1-1-1.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5395
white ra vs slush? not quite the same skill level as the last game -_- o wellsss, love me some cats pajamas and doa is charismatic
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5396
On October 09 2011 04:02 RJGooner wrote:
I can only laugh at the people raging at Puma. Seriously, Hero goes for a proxy stargate and Puma wins the game with great army control and decision making and people give shit for it.


Making marines and losing all scvs is a very good terran strategy.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5397
On October 09 2011 04:02 me_viet wrote:
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On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


LOL he 1-1-1'd ONE game out of that series, and I don't think he was planning to all-in, but after the proxy stargate...

Cya, hope we don't see you back here.

LOL pretty sure he was planning on it when you saw the fast second gas and banshee and cloak BEFORE stargate
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5398
On October 09 2011 04:02 kittensrcute wrote:
I'm just putting this out there.....

If HerO had won...would people not be complaining about cheese? He went proxy Stargate into DTs...

But because Terran won, Terran is the ultimate cheeser. It was one base vs one base and cheesy strats on both sides from the start.

I understand that people are cheering for the Liquid player and the Protoss hope but I don't know, it just seems silly to me how biased people can be.

I don't really enjoy watching games like this, but that's what I took from it. I hate the huge amount of Terrans in GSL too, but I don't get all the Puma hate.


if hero won people would freak out because find me one game where pumas 1-1-1 lost.

thats all i have to say, its ridiuclous.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5399
On October 09 2011 04:02 Loddigesia wrote:
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On October 09 2011 04:00 Drazerk wrote:
Done live reporting for today and I won't be around tomorrow either.

Enjoy the games



Thanks for doing a good job dude!


Thanks Draz!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
October 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5400
calm down guys. we know hero did a great job in that game. until the last minute. i really wished he did forcefielded the ramp and gathered a bigger army instead of expanding. but yeah i still hate that build.
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