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On October 08 2011 12:56 KhAlleB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:54 asaed wrote:On October 08 2011 12:54 Ludwigvan wrote:
they did not play all games in pool c it seems. Did they say who will get the money? ^^ They will hold an online tournament to decide later on. wrong, it was already said they did a random raking for this pool so it went: 1.Sleep 2.Thorzain 3.Select 4.HerO and plz guys dont be hating all the player was ok with that
... Read the quoted. He asked "who gets the money" and they ARE holding a tournament later on (between the 4 of them) to determine who gets the money. It was in a post in this thread by Alex.IGN.
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On October 08 2011 12:56 Kouda wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
correct me if i am wrong.... white ra is going to get screwed into 3rd place in his group because he actually had to play idra and went 2-1 vs him whereas mma got a forfeit vs idra so thats a 2-0.... so basically despite actually beating idra and mma whitera will get 3rd place by a 1 game loss differential White Ra went 2-1 2:1 vs Idra 2:1 vs MMA 0:2 vs STC 4:4 MMA went 1:2 Ra 1:2 STC 2:0 IdrA 4:4 Same differential, but the head to head goes to White Ra I'd believe.
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Foreigners really abuse the term "cheese". Even though it's not as bad as how they abuse the term "all-in", it's still really quite sad, though entertaining at the same time.
How the hell is building a proxy Factory and floating it to your opponents base 'cheese'? White-Ra defended StCs constant early aggression several times and yet he was never behind. If it was cheesy play, wouldn't he be AT LEAST a little behind if countered/defended? His strategy didn't change for over 5 minutes, he kept sending the same units over and over without a sudden transition to something like Banshees. His expansion was even ahead. He was just very aggressive, yet people call it "cheese". Give me a break, guys.
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The guys complaining about Idra certainly have no idea what the words "jet lag" mean. China to Atlantic City is what, 11? 12? hours of difference?
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Alex.IGN could you please link the thread or post the information for tomorrow, if it has been made available? I would like to open the next days thread but I am uncertain what to put in it.
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@anyone who knows: What happened to the open bracket? Are they still playing because it doesn't look complete yet.
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On October 08 2011 12:58 Vocal wrote:
Foreigners really abuse the term "cheese". Even though it's not as bad as how they abuse the term "all-in", it's still really quite sad, though entertaining at the same time.
How the hell is building a proxy Factory and floating it to your opponents base 'cheese'? White-Ra defended StCs constant early aggression several times and yet he was never behind. If it was cheesy play, wouldn't he be AT LEAST a little behind if countered/defended? His strategy didn't change for over 5 minutes, he kept sending the same units over and over without a sudden transition to something like Banshees. His expansion was even ahead. He was just very aggressive, yet people call it "cheese". Give me a break, guys.
They never played or followed BW is probably the reason.
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Does anyone know if Temp0 performed? I can't find it anywhere.
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On October 08 2011 12:59 GertHeart wrote:
Does anyone know if Temp0 performed? I can't find it anywhere.
Lost to Gordon Hayward i believe
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Does anyone know where I can find the vods or replays? I missed a few matches, kinda bummed out about that and would like to rewatch them.
EDIT: I am a total retard; there is a drop down menu with all of the games.
My excuse is 6 AM.
EDIT 2: These are actually from IPL 2. Again, 6 AM. Anyone?
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On October 08 2011 12:54 Jason54178 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that we gotta get that sand out of your vagina Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series... oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream? guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him? these are professionals... there used to it. playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions. it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep. If you look at it from his perspective would you rather want to play through all the games and get a chance at $500 or $1000 or be in full form the next day and have a better chance at $30k? This bashing is really getting annoying
I am not bashing. Do you even know what being a professional means?
Also, do you want other pro gamers to have this mentality to skip their games and just focus on the big prize? Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
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On October 08 2011 12:58 asaed wrote:
@anyone who knows: What happened to the open bracket? Are they still playing because it doesn't look complete yet.
They are coinflipping/forfeiting their way through the rest of the matches it seems, as they are only for seeding purposes. Maybe some of them will get played, who knows.
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On October 08 2011 13:00 Codeskye wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:54 Jason54178 wrote:On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that we gotta get that sand out of your vagina Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series... oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream? guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him? these are professionals... there used to it. playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions. it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep. If you look at it from his perspective would you rather want to play through all the games and get a chance at $500 or $1000 or be in full form the next day and have a better chance at $30k? This bashing is really getting annoying I am not bashing. Do you even know what being a professional means? Also, do you want other pro gamers to have this mentality to skip their games and just focus on the big prize? Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
Not many tournaments have exhibition matches at the start. This tournament and its structure is a special case
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Ah.. that makes sense, thanks.
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On October 08 2011 12:58 Vocal wrote:
Foreigners really abuse the term "cheese". Even though it's not as bad as how they abuse the term "all-in", it's still really quite sad, though entertaining at the same time.
How the hell is building a proxy Factory and floating it to your opponents base 'cheese'? White-Ra defended StCs constant early aggression several times and yet he was never behind. If it was cheesy play, wouldn't he be AT LEAST a little behind if countered/defended? His strategy didn't change for over 5 minutes, he kept sending the same units over and over without a sudden transition to something like Banshees. His expansion was even ahead. He was just very aggressive, yet people call it "cheese". Give me a break, guys.
Agreed. We need aggressive builds to make the game fair. If not SC2 will be incredibly boring and it will be about who puts down their CC/Nexus/Hatchery eariler.
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On October 08 2011 13:00 Codeskye wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:54 Jason54178 wrote:On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that we gotta get that sand out of your vagina Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series... oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream? guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him? these are professionals... there used to it. playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions. it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep. If you look at it from his perspective would you rather want to play through all the games and get a chance at $500 or $1000 or be in full form the next day and have a better chance at $30k? This bashing is really getting annoying I am not bashing. Do you even know what being a professional means? Also, do you want other pro gamers to have this mentality to skip their games and just focus on the big prize? Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
What do you think happened with Group C? They ALL AGREED on randomized seeds. You're also saying other pro gamers but almost all of them arrived way earlier than Idra and Puma. They all had time to rest. Why can't you accept the fact that the guy is legitimately tired and just wants to rest for the bigger prize?
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On October 08 2011 12:55 jjhchsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that we gotta get that sand out of your vagina Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series... oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream? guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him? these are professionals... there used to it. playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions. it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep. can you stfu. it was severe jetlag. he was travelling HEAPS with barely any rest/sleep.
If he was really that tired, why did he even bother to play his first match against White-Ra then? Other players got free forfeit wins, and because of this, bracket is messed up and white-ra is possibly going 3rd seed (forfeit wins against: mma 2-0, stc 2-0, while white-ra is 2-1)
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On October 08 2011 13:00 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:59 GertHeart wrote:
Does anyone know if Temp0 performed? I can't find it anywhere. Lost to Gordon Hayward i believe
And then he lost to AuroraPMS on the Losers' Bracket.
http://ipl3.playhem.com/#!/sc2/losers
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On October 08 2011 12:57 Alex.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:56 Kouda wrote:On October 08 2011 12:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
correct me if i am wrong.... white ra is going to get screwed into 3rd place in his group because he actually had to play idra and went 2-1 vs him whereas mma got a forfeit vs idra so thats a 2-0.... so basically despite actually beating idra and mma whitera will get 3rd place by a 1 game loss differential White Ra went 2-1 2:1 vs Idra 2:1 vs MMA 0:2 vs STC 4:4 MMA went 1:2 Ra 1:2 STC 2:0 IdrA 4:4 Same differential, but the head to head goes to White Ra I'd believe. Correct
Any info on the soundtracks you guys used today? Specifically during the conclusion and when the stream first went back up for Idra and whitera.
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