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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
October 08 2011 04:03 GMT
#10881
On October 08 2011 12:56 Kouda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 12:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
correct me if i am wrong.... white ra is going to get screwed into 3rd place in his group because he actually had to play idra and went 2-1 vs him whereas mma got a forfeit vs idra so thats a 2-0.... so basically despite actually beating idra and mma whitera will get 3rd place by a 1 game loss differential


White Ra went 2-1

2:1 vs Idra
2:1 vs MMA
0:2 vs STC

4:4

MMA went

1:2 Ra
1:2 STC
2:0 IdrA

4:4

Same differential, but the head to head goes to White Ra I'd believe.

What? Since when does 'games won' have priority over 'sets won'? I thought they look at number of sets won before number of games won? Since Whitera went 2-1 in sets and MMA went 1-2 in sets then Whitera gets priority?

I thought games only mattered if for example two players went 1-2, THEN they check at games won?
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 08 2011 04:04 GMT
#10882
hope idra gets better.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
October 08 2011 04:04 GMT
#10883
On October 08 2011 13:00 the p00n wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the vods or replays? I missed a few matches, kinda bummed out about that and would like to rewatch them.

EDIT: I am a total retard; there is a drop down menu with all of the games.

My excuse is 6 AM.

EDIT 2: These are actually from IPL 2. Again, 6 AM. Anyone?


Anyone?
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
October 08 2011 04:05 GMT
#10884
On October 08 2011 13:00 Djeez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 12:58 asaed wrote:
@anyone who knows: What happened to the open bracket? Are they still playing because it doesn't look complete yet.


They are coinflipping/forfeiting their way through the rest of the matches it seems, as they are only for seeding purposes. Maybe some of them will get played, who knows.


Um do you KNOW this? Or are you guessing? I assume people either at the tournament or IPL staff WOULD know (to answer your question "who knows").

I could imagine them also trying to fit them in in the morning tomorrow. I guess by the sound of it they are NOT playing any more tonight...

Again, does anyone have any info on this? Are they just going to coinflip the rest of the seeding and start with tournament play tomorrow morning? Or will they finish off the open bracket tournament first before going into bracket play?

Thanks
Galatians 2:20
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
October 08 2011 04:05 GMT
#10885
On October 08 2011 13:04 the p00n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 13:00 the p00n wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the vods or replays? I missed a few matches, kinda bummed out about that and would like to rewatch them.

EDIT: I am a total retard; there is a drop down menu with all of the games.

My excuse is 6 AM.

EDIT 2: These are actually from IPL 2. Again, 6 AM. Anyone?


Anyone?


A link gets posted on this thread (OP) when it's ready. You can already watch the Day1 ones on their Day 1 LR thread.
Galatians 2:20
Jason54178
Profile Joined July 2011
United States84 Posts
October 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#10886
On October 08 2011 13:05 asaed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 13:00 Djeez wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:58 asaed wrote:
@anyone who knows: What happened to the open bracket? Are they still playing because it doesn't look complete yet.


They are coinflipping/forfeiting their way through the rest of the matches it seems, as they are only for seeding purposes. Maybe some of them will get played, who knows.


Um do you KNOW this? Or are you guessing? I assume people either at the tournament or IPL staff WOULD know (to answer your question "who knows").

I could imagine them also trying to fit them in in the morning tomorrow. I guess by the sound of it they are NOT playing any more tonight...

Again, does anyone have any info on this? Are they just going to coinflip the rest of the seeding and start with tournament play tomorrow morning? Or will they finish off the open bracket tournament first before going into bracket play?

Thanks


Random seeding.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
October 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#10887
On October 08 2011 12:55 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that


we gotta get that sand out of your vagina

Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series...


oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream?

guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him?

these are professionals... there used to it.

playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different


Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions.



it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep.


can you stfu.
it was severe jetlag. he was travelling HEAPS with barely any rest/sleep.


No one forces him to play every tourney. He chooses to play in these so it is his fault.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
October 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#10888
On October 08 2011 13:03 Codeskye wrote:


If he was really that tired, why did he even bother to play his first match against White-Ra then? Other players got free forfeit wins, and because of this, bracket is messed up and white-ra is possibly going 3rd seed (forfeit wins against: mma 2-0, stc 2-0, while white-ra is 2-1)


White-Ra is 2-1: he won against IdrA and MMA.
MMA is 1-2: he only won the forfeited match.
White-Ra isn't gonna get 3rd place.

Also, stop talking about IdrA. It's so obvious his entire attitude is just made to fuel drama, and by keeping it up you just play his game.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#10889
I can confirm that some people are just coin flipping the rest of the open bracket matches.

KawaiiRice and viOlet coin flipped and violet won~~
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
October 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#10890
On October 08 2011 13:05 asaed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 13:04 the p00n wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:00 the p00n wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the vods or replays? I missed a few matches, kinda bummed out about that and would like to rewatch them.

EDIT: I am a total retard; there is a drop down menu with all of the games.

My excuse is 6 AM.

EDIT 2: These are actually from IPL 2. Again, 6 AM. Anyone?


Anyone?


A link gets posted on this thread (OP) when it's ready. You can already watch the Day1 ones on their Day 1 LR thread.


Thanks.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 08 2011 04:06 GMT
#10891
On October 08 2011 13:06 Xeris wrote:
I can confirm that some people are just coin flipping the rest of the open bracket matches.

KawaiiRice and viOlet coin flipped and violet won~~

Holy shit the open bracket matches?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
October 08 2011 04:07 GMT
#10892
@Jason and Xeris

Thank you so much for the confirmation!
Galatians 2:20
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 08 2011 04:07 GMT
#10893
On October 08 2011 12:56 Kouda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 12:53 eVolvE342 wrote:
correct me if i am wrong.... white ra is going to get screwed into 3rd place in his group because he actually had to play idra and went 2-1 vs him whereas mma got a forfeit vs idra so thats a 2-0.... so basically despite actually beating idra and mma whitera will get 3rd place by a 1 game loss differential


White Ra went 2-1

2:1 vs Idra
2:1 vs MMA
0:2 vs STC

4:4

MMA went

1:2 Ra
1:2 STC
2:0 IdrA

4:4

Same differential, but the head to head goes to White Ra I'd believe.


Wrong, MMA went 1-2 in matches just as your scores indicate.
The spice must flow
RumTalk
Profile Joined October 2010
Jamaica135 Posts
October 08 2011 04:07 GMT
#10894
On October 08 2011 13:06 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 12:55 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that


we gotta get that sand out of your vagina

Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series...


oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream?

guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him?

these are professionals... there used to it.

playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different


Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions.



it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep.


can you stfu.
it was severe jetlag. he was travelling HEAPS with barely any rest/sleep.


No one forces him to play every tourney. He chooses to play in these so it is his fault.


Is stupidity bannable?

User was temp banned for this post.
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 04:16:02
October 08 2011 04:08 GMT
#10895
Blaming IdrA for being exhausted after just arriving in Atlantic City from China is unreasonable. The management of the tournament is the issue. I'm not blaming them for losing the internet (this is borderlining on an act of god), but they decided to organize the schedule the way they did. They should've bumped the open bracket over and put the pools on the 2nd stream, for example. Bumping the open games wouldn't have slowed down the tournament, but not bumping did and significantly.

Ultimately, IdrA realized that he has to play well tomorrow, and that it really won't matter that much if he forfeits his games since he's not out of the tournament anyway. And not only that, in the state of mind he was in from the jet lag and sleep deprivation, he most likely realized that if he couldn't beat White Ra, he wouldn't beat MMA and STC.

edit: the fact the open is being coin flipped just shows that the current format is not reasonable even for non-jet lagged players. Too much in too little time. And man, the open's not even done. Did Machine really beat DeMuslim or was that a coinflip? If Machine plays his games all the way to the end against PuMa, they'll be up til like, what , 5-6 AM?
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 08 2011 04:09 GMT
#10896
On October 08 2011 13:07 RumTalk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 13:06 TooN wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:55 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:52 Codeskye wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:50 Clank wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:47 IamPryda wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:44 laharl23 wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:43 Ryder. wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:39 Geebs wrote:
On October 08 2011 12:37 Pirat6662001 wrote:
So making a player play two series in a row while the other can just sit and rest is some how fair. IDra is a f***** b**** because of him all schedule is messed up,i hope he gets banned some day from future tourney for s*** like that


we gotta get that sand out of your vagina

Guy has a point, Ra hardly got a 5 minute breather. Not only did theSTC not have to play vs Idra with an auto-win but he got to sit there and watch Whitera as he played 2 grueling series...


oh please give me a break, have you ever watched white-ras stream?

guy plays like 50 games a day, you really think 6 games in a row with 5 minute break is anything to him?

these are professionals... there used to it.

playing ladder and playing high level pro games are completly different


Idra actually made a comment about this idea of endurance last night during that awesome panel. He basically said, while tournament games are a bit more taxing on players, fans overplay the whole endurance factor. The pros do play tons of games in a row, so they are definitely used to the conditions.



it's ironic that someone like idra talks about endurance when he himself forfeit games so he can sleep.


can you stfu.
it was severe jetlag. he was travelling HEAPS with barely any rest/sleep.


No one forces him to play every tourney. He chooses to play in these so it is his fault.


Is stupidity bannable?


lol, it is on these forums, especially this level of stupid.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 08 2011 04:13 GMT
#10897
Guys, is this all for today?
Jason54178
Profile Joined July 2011
United States84 Posts
October 08 2011 04:14 GMT
#10898
On October 08 2011 13:13 Xxavi wrote:
Guys, is this all for today?


Yep, today is all done
Dalnor
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia68 Posts
October 08 2011 04:15 GMT
#10899
So while we dont have the 16 players from the open bracket seeded yet we should at lease know the 16 who made it?
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
October 08 2011 04:16 GMT
#10900
When I said does anyone know if Temp0 performed... I meant that if he sang like he was going to >.>, I thought you guys knew he was a singer =B. "When I'm a grandmaster" etc..
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
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