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On October 08 2011 11:03 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:02 Olinim wrote: Sigh. It's a shame Whiteras great play now just get's overshadowed by Idra's stupid drama while he makes tons of money off it. I hate humanity sometimes. I completely agree when I read this thread. So many idiots screaming rage and ragequit...
WTF???? You start hating humanity when it comes to Idra, Whitera and this community? I wonder how do you feel when you are confronted with 'real' problems in this world?! Maybe something 10x stronger than hate? I wonder what that is.
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On October 08 2011 11:03 Slakter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:59 Yuppi wrote:On October 08 2011 10:57 Lamphead wrote: honestly you guys are missing the real point, the competition is so stacked there really is no point in playing these matches, he could end up coming in 3rd instead of 4th which is in all likelihood the best he could pull off after losing to White Ra and for his troubles he could get someone like Thorzain instead of Sleep.. If he was a real man he would atleast play the games and try show intressenting games for the community / fans. This is just bullshit. A real "man" plays to win, not to entertain. Playing to entertain at the cost of him more probably losing tommorow is what is bullshit here. People who cant respect a legit decision in a situation they will never get into and people who blast hate out on the internet at people are what is bullshit. You are bullshit. Idra still had good chances of winning the group of he wins he 2 last matches he prolly would dont think whitera will beat any of these.. So cant say idra was playing to winning atleast. and getting last seed really puts you in a bad spot to the brackets so that is also kinda contrictatory to playing towards a win.. ah well that just my view at it. It sucks for us not getting to see some awesome games.
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As much as I love this tournament so far, it is so 'incredibly' american, It's not a good or a bad thing, but just the presentation and all that. IGN really trying to 'legitimize/commercialize on this.
Good to see I guess.
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Let's see the TvP of MMA.
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I can imagine the hate going on right now.. things is.. Idra DOES NOT care about fans.. and that's fine! Let him be.. he just wants to win this whole tourament.. AND he has a good chance at it!
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On October 08 2011 11:07 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:06 Sc2Null wrote: so wait...idra actually quit the group stages?? what does that mean? Group stages are just for seeding so no one is knocked out until tomorrow; he will just start in a worse position 16 hours of sleep would do him more good.
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can anyone tell me what happened with group c? want to check on hero >.<
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On October 08 2011 11:06 IM_Megan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:06 Sc2Null wrote: so wait...idra actually quit the group stages?? what does that mean? nothing.. this is for extra prices And for seeding in the next bracket so while IdrA gave himself a longer night sleep by forfeiting his two series he also did give himself a (likely) harder bracket.
Having said that though looking how he played against White-Ra I would not have been surprised if IdrA would have gone 0-3 in that group.
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Why did IdrA forfeit? to get more sleep?
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On October 08 2011 11:02 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:56 Exarl25 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:52 Aocowns wrote:On October 08 2011 10:50 Exarl25 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:48 BrodiaQ wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Exarl25 wrote: Seriously what the fuck was that? Is IdrA throwing games to try and make Protoss look OP? His macro was absolutely atrocious, he was floating 4k+ minerals pretty much the entire time. What the hell is the point in making so many Drones if you aren't even going to use them? He was maxed. lol. And zergs need that Spine crawler buffer late game, thus why he over droned so much, so he could do that. Idra played a solid game. White ra pretty nullified too much of idra's army with the archon toilet. Did you seriously watch the game? He was floating tons of money way before he was maxed, he broke 5k minerals on 160 supply and rarely went below 4k. That game was far from solid. Did you see his gas? -.-' He was going for broodlord infestor, then he needs gas god damn it. That's no excuse. There is absolutely no reason not to throw down a macro hatch and pump some disposable lings when you are floating that much money. Or he could have just mass expanded and mined more gas, if the hatches die then no big deal he wasn't using the money anyway. Or he could have thrown down mass Spines, there is ALWAYS a use for spare minerals. Even if he didn't want to do all that, if you don't need minerals then don't make so many damn Drones. What the hell is the point in pumping out dozens of Drones then not use the money they bring in? It's a complete waste, he could have had a much stronger maxed army. His play was terrible and considering he has just forfeited the rest of his matches for today I think he realises it. he was throwing down spines and tried to expo more (zlots in prism killed/cancelled and casters missed it completely) also making lings rather than broods infestor at that stage of the game is 100% useless. he was maxed and spent his supply basically, the rest which were minerals were banked.
He was maxed? Why are you like the 5th person to say that? Did anyone watch the damn game? He was floating money way before he reached max. He broke 6k minerals on 160 supply
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On October 08 2011 11:05 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:03 Broodwurst wrote:On October 08 2011 11:01 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On October 08 2011 10:58 sereniity wrote:On October 08 2011 10:56 Izaku wrote:On October 08 2011 10:55 Plansix wrote:On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote: Seriously IdrA, "china time".. Jet lag is brutal. If you have never experienced it, it can take several days to get back to normal. SC2 is a game of focus. no excuse. MC did the same thing and he never whined nor did he FORFEIT. at least play! but forfeiting is the lowest of lows. Pretty sure MC mentioned he was jetlagged, IdrA also said that MC was jetlagged when he beat him. MC loses vs IdrA? Everybody says jetlag. IdrA loses after coming from China 1 day before, just having won a tournament. He forfeits to get some fucking rest FOR THE ACTUAL IMPORTANT GAMES? Everybody calls him a noob, rager, quitter etc... fucking hilarious. The Difference here is MC played all of his games that day(And he had more games to play at that point too!) As I said early, if Idra is that tired he should have dropped out befoe the White Ra game... Total dick move making White Ra play a meaningless intensive Bo3 series before quitting because your "Too tired". Jeez...so you're saying you would've just given up without trying? Says more about you than it says about Idra tbh. Playing 1 series out of 3 isn't really 'trying'. Plus as I said its a total dick move to White Ra to force him to play for the win and then give every one else free wins.
Of course it is trying?! Should he have given up after the first game, which he won? After the second game, where it was 1-1? Makes no sense at all.
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On October 08 2011 11:05 HeavenS wrote: who was idra playing when he said "this is a fucking joke" and "fuck you" ????
can anyone answer me?
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On October 08 2011 11:07 pique wrote: pool play doesn't determine where they seed into the last bracket???
it does. there's also a $1000 prize for 1st in group and $500 for 2nd
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On October 08 2011 11:06 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:02 Aocowns wrote:On October 08 2011 10:56 Exarl25 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:52 Aocowns wrote:On October 08 2011 10:50 Exarl25 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:48 BrodiaQ wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Exarl25 wrote: Seriously what the fuck was that? Is IdrA throwing games to try and make Protoss look OP? His macro was absolutely atrocious, he was floating 4k+ minerals pretty much the entire time. What the hell is the point in making so many Drones if you aren't even going to use them? He was maxed. lol. And zergs need that Spine crawler buffer late game, thus why he over droned so much, so he could do that. Idra played a solid game. White ra pretty nullified too much of idra's army with the archon toilet. Did you seriously watch the game? He was floating tons of money way before he was maxed, he broke 5k minerals on 160 supply and rarely went below 4k. That game was far from solid. Did you see his gas? -.-' He was going for broodlord infestor, then he needs gas god damn it. That's no excuse. There is absolutely no reason not to throw down a macro hatch and pump some disposable lings when you are floating that much money. Or he could have just mass expanded and mined more gas, if the hatches die then no big deal he wasn't using the money anyway. Or he could have thrown down mass Spines, there is ALWAYS a use for spare minerals. Even if he didn't want to do all that, if you don't need minerals then don't make so many damn Drones. What the hell is the point in pumping out dozens of Drones then not use the money they bring in? It's a complete waste, he could have had a much stronger maxed army. His play was terrible and considering he has just forfeited the rest of his matches for today I think he realises it. Dude, did you see all those spines Idra put up?... Also, yeah I completely see where he did wrong. He could totally set up more bases when the protoss had collossus shooting at his base, 20 warp gates ready for use, more bases than him etc. Do you know that Idra was hardcore jetlagged? much stronger maxed army? Zerg has no stronger army than broodlord infestor with spine support. If you didnt see, that flashy circle with archons in it killed them all in 2 shots. Mothership needs toi be used more often ;o What are you talking about? Did you watch the damn game? Colossus shooting at his base? I'm not talking about the last damn 30 seconds, he was floating minerals the whole time. Yes he had Spines up but he could have had more. Obviously he was jetlagged, that's why he was playing so damn terrible. No stronger maxed army? How about a maxed army with 20 fewer Drones and more supply in combat units? The Mothership had nothing to do with IdrA's atrocious economy management. He played like crap and that's why he is forfeiting to go and get some rest, he must be exhausted. Well, I'm glad we agree on that then. I guess it's pretty hard to expand when there can instantly be 10 zealots anywhere on the map?
Edit: Also, I think he tried sometimes, but he got denied
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On October 08 2011 11:07 Dionyysos wrote: God i srsly cant stand this shit.
Everybody who really thinks he prematurely gg'ed should go back to their silverleagues and not post this shit here. He was totally dead, like 0% chance of coming back and if you cant see that you have no clue about starcraft 2. Really no clue...its even worth discussing why he was dead.
And on his forfeiting, he was supposed to be done hours ago. Obviously still tried to complete for the 1k$ and lost the first set, so his chances of winning while playing that late are pretty slim. Also he would risk his form for the tournament tommorow which is way way way more important. I can totally understand his decision.
If it would have been any other player in Idras position right now, probably many of you guys would have just kept their mouths shut here....
0% chance of coming back ? Well that's just wrong and somebody has never seen come backs.
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On October 08 2011 11:08 HeavenS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:05 HeavenS wrote: who was idra playing when he said "this is a fucking joke" and "fuck you" ???? can anyone answer me?
mouz.mana
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omg we missed mma stc asdkflhasjdnkgb =(
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On October 08 2011 11:05 Horse...falcon wrote: So what's going on? All I see are people flaming Idra and people defending him.. oh wait, that's every tournament with Idra.
Seriously though did they get the internet back?
They did, but at like 9pm EDT
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On October 08 2011 11:07 integrity wrote: i REALLY want MMA to ROFL stomp whitera.
MMA fighting!
BURN THE HERETIC!!!
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On October 08 2011 11:05 HeavenS wrote: who was idra playing when he said "this is a fucking joke" and "fuck you" ???? Mana maybe I think
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