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Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
October 04 2011 03:44 GMT
#921
On October 04 2011 12:42 Kaizoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:41 Horse...falcon wrote:
Is that Warcraft III in the background? Who's playing in that?


Its league of legends


Oh, ew


Puma on his hair color

Last question: Why the red hair?

*laughs* That is the result of a communication problem between me and my hairdresser. I wanted to have a more blond-brown color and ended up with this. The color is really hard to swallow. In the future I'll definitely have to change it again.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 04 2011 03:44 GMT
#922
On October 04 2011 12:43 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:40 Montana[TK] wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:39 RotterdaM wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:35 sAfuRos wrote:
LOL at kevin trying to push through his bullshit theory on how blink only would have won the shakuras game

WHEN YOU BLINK YOU CANT BLINK AGAIN FOR A WHILE, THUS, WHEN YOU BLINK INTO A BASE AND THEY HAVE ZEALOTS AND NEAR EQUAL STALKERS AND CLOSER REINFORCEMENTS, YOU WILL LOSE WAY MORE AND RUIN YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING

someone send this guy the goddamn memo


Mate On what level do you play pvp? Do you play vs the best protoss players in the world? I play this match-up every day, even against the guys in this tournament, I know a lot about the match-up and i've been in simulair situations on simulair skill level 350 times, I was just asking elfi's opinion, i was trying to push it, I was just wondering since i've seen it happening 300 times , but Im sure you know it better mate care to play some pvps?


why do you respond to people like that?

seriously. stop it. not even I would consider responding to a post like that and I spend way more time posting on these forums than you do.


People "like that" as in people with legitimate criticism of casting? I'm not saying they are bad or even not good, but they shouldn't talk about things they don't know the way they do

Sorry i don't sugarcoat my comments like "oh, you guys, well, you did so great, i just think, you know, you might want to consider perhaps potentially not talking as much about things you are maybe not totally 100% certain of, okay?

Same message. They don't know the situation, they shouldn't act like they do

The criticism wasn't legitimate and Rotterdam was right in saying he COULD'VE won the game. Plus he knows better than you.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 04 2011 03:44 GMT
#923
On October 04 2011 12:43 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:40 Montana[TK] wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:39 RotterdaM wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:35 sAfuRos wrote:
LOL at kevin trying to push through his bullshit theory on how blink only would have won the shakuras game

WHEN YOU BLINK YOU CANT BLINK AGAIN FOR A WHILE, THUS, WHEN YOU BLINK INTO A BASE AND THEY HAVE ZEALOTS AND NEAR EQUAL STALKERS AND CLOSER REINFORCEMENTS, YOU WILL LOSE WAY MORE AND RUIN YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING

someone send this guy the goddamn memo


Mate On what level do you play pvp? Do you play vs the best protoss players in the world? I play this match-up every day, even against the guys in this tournament, I know a lot about the match-up and i've been in simulair situations on simulair skill level 350 times, I was just asking elfi's opinion, i was trying to push it, I was just wondering since i've seen it happening 300 times , but Im sure you know it better mate care to play some pvps?


why do you respond to people like that?

seriously. stop it. not even I would consider responding to a post like that and I spend way more time posting on these forums than you do.


People "like that" as in people with legitimate criticism of casting? I'm not saying they are bad or even not good, but they shouldn't talk about things they don't know the way they do

Sorry i don't sugarcoat my comments like "oh, you guys, well, you did so great, i just think, you know, you might want to consider perhaps potentially not talking as much about things you are maybe not totally 100% certain of, okay?

Same message. They don't know the situation, they shouldn't act like they do



You're not gonna get me on the 2nd one brocepheros

PuMa fighting! :D
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
October 04 2011 03:45 GMT
#924
Puma might be a favorite but he certainly far from invincible. Idra has played a lot of games against him so he has a decent chance.
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
October 04 2011 03:45 GMT
#925
Am I the only one who find wierd about all those ppl in front of the player are watching a different game than starcraft 2 ?
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:45:37
October 04 2011 03:45 GMT
#926
DjWheat is on the bet as long as Idra wins this event. Slasher on the other hand..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 04 2011 03:45 GMT
#927
dat g4 was so nice
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
October 04 2011 03:45 GMT
#928
I would expect some shenanigans between Idra and Puma. Teammates playing each other always end in funky looking games on big stages. It'll be interesting to see how these games pan out.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:47:19
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#929
On October 04 2011 12:43 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:40 Montana[TK] wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:39 RotterdaM wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:35 sAfuRos wrote:
LOL at kevin trying to push through his bullshit theory on how blink only would have won the shakuras game

WHEN YOU BLINK YOU CANT BLINK AGAIN FOR A WHILE, THUS, WHEN YOU BLINK INTO A BASE AND THEY HAVE ZEALOTS AND NEAR EQUAL STALKERS AND CLOSER REINFORCEMENTS, YOU WILL LOSE WAY MORE AND RUIN YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING

someone send this guy the goddamn memo


Mate On what level do you play pvp? Do you play vs the best protoss players in the world? I play this match-up every day, even against the guys in this tournament, I know a lot about the match-up and i've been in simulair situations on simulair skill level 350 times, I was just asking elfi's opinion, i was trying to push it, I was just wondering since i've seen it happening 300 times , but Im sure you know it better mate care to play some pvps?


why do you respond to people like that?

seriously. stop it. not even I would consider responding to a post like that and I spend way more time posting on these forums than you do.


People "like that" as in people with legitimate criticism of casting? I'm not saying they are bad or even not good, but they shouldn't talk about things they don't know the way they do

Sorry i don't sugarcoat my comments like "oh, you guys, well, you did so great, i just think, you know, you might want to consider perhaps potentially not talking as much about things you are maybe not totally 100% certain of, okay?

Same message. They don't know the situation, they shouldn't act like they do

Rotti does know what hes talking about and Ive actually watched GSL games of that exact situation. He explained his credentials about why he knows what hes talking about and asked for yours. You dodged the question.
Stop talking shit and arguing in a LR thread please.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#930
On October 04 2011 12:42 RotterdaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:40 sAfuRos wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:39 RotterdaM wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:35 sAfuRos wrote:
LOL at kevin trying to push through his bullshit theory on how blink only would have won the shakuras game

WHEN YOU BLINK YOU CANT BLINK AGAIN FOR A WHILE, THUS, WHEN YOU BLINK INTO A BASE AND THEY HAVE ZEALOTS AND NEAR EQUAL STALKERS AND CLOSER REINFORCEMENTS, YOU WILL LOSE WAY MORE AND RUIN YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING

someone send this guy the goddamn memo


Mate On what level do you play pvp? Do you play vs the best protoss players in the world? I play this match-up every day, even against the guys in this tournament, I know a lot about the match-up and i've been in simulair situations on simulair skill level 350 times, I was just asking elfi's opinion, i was trying to push it, I was just wondering since i've seen it happening 300 times , but Im sure you know it better mate care to play some pvps?


Yea actually, we'll simulate the scenario. I'll take shakuras main and have 10 stalkers and 4 zealots and a sentry, and you blink into my base from the side with 12 stalkers

See what happens, rofl.


I look forward to that, we can simulate that exact scenario quite easyly , feel free to PM me your contact details and I'll play you as soon as I'm back in Europe, I do expect apologies afterwards, that oke? I might provide you with a few PvP replays as well so you'll learn not to use caps lock in the future, donk.

To everybody else, hope you guys enjoyed it as much as we did ;D, looking forward to idra vs Puma now!


we all love you rotti, some guys just want to spread negativity, which he has been doing the last 20 pages

bisu
InserT_FreQ
Profile Joined August 2011
United States99 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#931
"Cheese sucks, no way" LOL. As if he'd say if he was going to do it. I'm going to laugh so hard if 6 pools.
Welcome to earth.
kruzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada81 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#932
OH SHIT, such a sick match incoming.
You're a cantaloupe!
Nontrivial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States56 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#933
Anyone know why the stream numbers have been so low for this event? Cause the games and the story lines have been pretty sick. Elfi fighting!
kolofome
Profile Joined December 2010
United States96 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#934
On October 04 2011 12:42 velvetone wrote:
scumbag interviewer asks what pumas strat is rig ht next to idra.


woah.
battlefield 3 is pretty damn fun
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#935
On October 04 2011 12:43 nanaoei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:36 sAfuRos wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:34 nanaoei wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:27 sAfuRos wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:26 kolofome wrote:
elfi didnt deserve that, hasu outplayed him in just about everyway


All of you guys claiming Hasu outplayed...i hope you realize PvP at the top level is like 80% decision making. Its all metagame.

Edit: that is, almost every top player has good enough micro do almost anything; its the choices and mindgames that win, thus, Hasu losing means Hasu was, at least today, the worse PvPer

kthxbai


kthxhai, care to explain why it's ~80% in each and every game of PvP?
most people are saying that hasuobs is more consistent in his good decision making mid to late game. even players today are unsure of the best way to play. if it means being able to stay alive, and being able to play well in the late game, then yeah, hasuobs did play a better style but fell short.


Uh, 80% was an arbitrary number to illustrate the point that PvP is by and far all about the choices you make

Care to explain? Yes. Everyone can blink stalkers and move around their colossus. Not fucking hard. Its the reads you make and the choices you make based on them that determine the game. End of story. Hasu isn't bad he just got outplayed. Boom.

edit: game 3, no cannon in main was a terrible decision. he was safe from the front and from blink (and he knew it) and thus the only possible threat was dt into main, and he didn't build a single cannon despite having forge

game 4: he should have won that game, and i think anyone who knows phoenix pvp and pvp in general realized that. moving down the ramp to defend that one gateway with only one immortal BARELY lost him the game, and if he had had 3 immortals or more it would have just been a move into hasu for hard win, and phoenix/obs to prevent blinking in/map awareness, or just go for base trade because he would have won that too

game 5: LOL in general there. if you think hasu outplayed in any way in game 5, you're just wrong


i'm gonna stop right there before your edits.
you can push your opinion all you want, but there's seriously no need to patronize everbody.
these are opinions of others, and what right do you have to go on about rotti? would you rather go cast yourself since your knowledge of the game is that much better?

give it a break, please


Uhm yes, if i was there and was offered the chance to cast, i would in PvP, because i know what is going on and, if i didn't, i wouldn't act like i did. And patronizing? Its a criticism, i just don't wrap my comments in bullshit fluff. Sorry you and rotty can't take it

If you are seriously trying to tell me that rotterdam or bitter were remotely correct in their two calls

1) That blinking into a base with 12 stalkers right into 10 stalkers, 1 sentry, and 4 zealots, is a "definite win"
or
2) Blink stalker beats phoenix open easily,

than you don't have any idea how to play PvP
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
October 04 2011 03:47 GMT
#936
On October 04 2011 12:36 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:34 nanaoei wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:27 sAfuRos wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:26 kolofome wrote:
elfi didnt deserve that, hasu outplayed him in just about everyway


All of you guys claiming Hasu outplayed...i hope you realize PvP at the top level is like 80% decision making. Its all metagame.

Edit: that is, almost every top player has good enough micro do almost anything; its the choices and mindgames that win, thus, Hasu losing means Hasu was, at least today, the worse PvPer

kthxbai


kthxhai, care to explain why it's ~80% in each and every game of PvP?
most people are saying that hasuobs is more consistent in his good decision making mid to late game. even players today are unsure of the best way to play. if it means being able to stay alive, and being able to play well in the late game, then yeah, hasuobs did play a better style but fell short.

edit: game 3, no cannon in main was a terrible decision. he was safe from the front and from blink (and he knew it) and thus the only possible threat was dt into main, and he didn't build a single cannon despite having forge


Not sure about it... I mean he warped in 4 DTs. And most of his army was in front of the natural... The only chance he had if he had put that canon would be to guard this canon down with probes and wait for reinforcement. Otherwise don't think it'd have been gamebreaking...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
October 04 2011 03:48 GMT
#937
Well going by their practice stats, IdrA should at least win 1 game... T_T
#TeamBuLba
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
October 04 2011 03:48 GMT
#938
Hasu didn´t really "deserve" to win this series more than elfi. He made some crucial mistakes. However, elfi did by no means outplay Hasu here. He took two huge gambles and in both cases it payed off. This is a typical example of a player more losing a series than the other winning it.

I also think, that Hasu would have a better shot against Puma (unless Idra pulls off a miracle), because IMO he is overall the better player, especially if you look at all matchup´s. But not always the better player wins. It was nontheless a really entertaining series.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
October 04 2011 03:48 GMT
#939
Wait no 1/1/1 jokes incoming?
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
October 04 2011 03:48 GMT
#940
On October 04 2011 12:46 kolofome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:42 velvetone wrote:
scumbag interviewer asks what pumas strat is rig ht next to idra.


woah.


it's a good opportunity for them to mind-game each other
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
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