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JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#5041
So we have an international LAN tournament in China with several good Koreans attending and two guys from Europe, who the community usually doesn't give that much credit and although they're good, they're not top 5 EU for sure, make 2nd and 4th place and an American, who has been in absolutely terrible shape for months now, wins the whole thing and roflstomps Puma 3:0 on his way through? What is going on?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#5042
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


New APM counter is broken. Patch broke it.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#5043
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player

I saw it too. Not sure if IdrA was going through hotkeys or just actually not doing anything... of course we know IdrA is much faster than elfi but it's still kind of weird o_O
:)
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#5044
On October 04 2011 17:37 Geo.Rion wrote:
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On October 04 2011 17:18 Archerylady wrote:
happy that a foreigner won! and enjoy your haircut slasher. unfortunately this victory will reinvigorate idras annoying fanboys.

Did Carmac shave his had because a foreigner won, or was he like this before the tourney?


Shaven before I'm pretty sure. Would be funny if at IPL everyone had shaved heads though :-p
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#5045
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player


No the APM showed Elfi at around 120 and jumping up and down and Idra at 30 then 20 then 17. Dunno why.
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#5046
On October 04 2011 17:38 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player


Didn't misread, others have said it. It probably was just a moment thing (maybe Idra was going 1-1 2-2 3-3 etc. to look at various places, that doesn't count as Actions per the new rule anymore).


Well if you are talking about a real time apm then who cares. I am quite sure his average was higher than 100 for sure.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 04 2011 08:40 GMT
#5047
On October 04 2011 17:39 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:38 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player


Didn't misread, others have said it. It probably was just a moment thing (maybe Idra was going 1-1 2-2 3-3 etc. to look at various places, that doesn't count as Actions per the new rule anymore).


Well if you are talking about a real time apm then who cares. I am quite sure his average was higher than 100 for sure.


average was ~70 to ~120 if i remember earlier in the thread accurately
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sPitcraZy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
October 04 2011 08:41 GMT
#5048
On October 04 2011 17:39 StutteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player


No the APM showed Elfi at around 120 and jumping up and down and Idra at 30 then 20 then 17. Dunno why.




Idra was 198/200 supply elfi was 170ish/200 supply thats why his APM was low at that moment!
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cryL
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia77 Posts
October 04 2011 08:42 GMT
#5049
argh, apm is no longer even remotely indicative of the speed at which somebody plays lol people should really stop referencing it.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 04 2011 08:42 GMT
#5050
On October 04 2011 17:40 Shaetan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:39 Alpina wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:38 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player


Didn't misread, others have said it. It probably was just a moment thing (maybe Idra was going 1-1 2-2 3-3 etc. to look at various places, that doesn't count as Actions per the new rule anymore).


Well if you are talking about a real time apm then who cares. I am quite sure his average was higher than 100 for sure.


average was ~70 to ~120 if i remember earlier in the thread accurately


Man that's not average apm :D +-50 apm is not average lol. You need to look at his avg apm when match going to end, and I am pretty sure it will be 120++
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
October 04 2011 08:42 GMT
#5051
On October 04 2011 17:37 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:18 Archerylady wrote:
happy that a foreigner won! and enjoy your haircut slasher. unfortunately this victory will reinvigorate idras annoying fanboys.

Did Carmac shave his had because a foreigner won, or was he like this before the tourney?

No he already did that before the event.
Freefall
Profile Joined May 2011
Bahamas46 Posts
October 04 2011 08:42 GMT
#5052
It's not actions per minute any more. It's actions blizzard deems worthy per blizzard minute.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
October 04 2011 08:43 GMT
#5053
On October 04 2011 17:38 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:36 FairForever wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 supdubdup wrote:
Is elfi that slow? i thought they showed an apm tab in game 2 and elfi was like 190 to idras 30. o.o

you probably read it wrong... Elfi is known for ~90 APM


It showed Elfi at 90 and Idra at 30, I have no clue why Idra was that slow though.


It's either a bug or you missread something. Idra is quite a fast player

Nope, Blizzard redefined how APM is determined in the latest patch and essentially turned it into a worthless number. It did actually show elfi with approximately 110 APM to Idra's 30 or so.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
October 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#5054
You guys should be happy that his APM is so low, that means almost everyone can do it!
Quote?
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
October 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#5055
Jeez. Just download the replays and keep the APM tab open if you guys are so curious. You will see.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
October 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#5056
kind of sad to see hasu lost against elfi after leading 2-0 and getting DTd and 4 gated out of the tournament... i think hasu vs idra wouldve been a more intersting finals.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
October 04 2011 08:47 GMT
#5057
On October 04 2011 17:44 DiaBoLuS wrote:
kind of sad to see hasu lost against elfi after leading 2-0 and getting DTd and 4 gated out of the tournament... i think hasu vs idra wouldve been a more intersting finals.


i agreee a lot more interesting, in fact.
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
October 04 2011 08:47 GMT
#5058
Wooow, IdrA played sooo well and I was actually quite scared sometimes that he would egrackulate prematurely, there were so many scenarios were it could've happened too!

I kinda liked elfi's PvZ as well, cuz I was looking forward to see IdrA's PvZ, cuz he complained kinda a lot after the patch. I think the 2-Stargate-build by Elfi was insanely good and I actually hoped he wouldn't make any VR's, just phoenix', cuz VR's are pretty much an all-in investment and need to at least deny a third, but Phoenix are a very good harrassment-tool and if you mass them, they totally rip apart Hydras, Mutas etc.

What I didn't like by elfi was, that he didn't (ab)use the Immortal (from mid to lategame), nor the Prism (in the Lategame). I really think those two Units are very powerful now and I wanted to see them being used in a high-level game. I also didn't like Elfi's timing-attacks, cuz even though it may get IdrA to tilt, when he's playing on his highest level (which he definitely was in this IEM), he will simply crush the timing and then outmacro you soooo hard.

I also noticed that IdrA, when he's on top of his game, is extremely good at multi-pronged harrass with Drops, Nydus etc. and when he's kinda in a rut, he totally neglects those options and focuses too much on winning with standard-play and macro, although utilizing drops and Nydus can perfectly be implemented in your standard gameplan.
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mibuokami
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia12 Posts
October 04 2011 08:50 GMT
#5059
On October 04 2011 17:26 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:25 IzieBoy wrote:
I don't care if IdrA is happy. He's probably not completely happy as he wanted to 3-0 elfi or he felt the final should be harder than the semi-final. But in the end, he won the tournament, and that's what matters.

I'm just happy to watch IdrA play. He's the Michael Jordan of SC2. Absolutely brilliant play and fast analysis.


Except the whole Michael Jordan being the best player at the time(and possibly EVER) and Idra not being the best player at any time. Other than that, exactly like MJ.


Idra is more like Shaq, a strong player with a bad attitude and a massive fanbase (myself included) who is able to stay relevant and highly paid whether he delivers results or not.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
October 04 2011 08:51 GMT
#5060
On October 04 2011 17:30 Sienionelain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 17:29 ePdeLay wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:27 Sienionelain wrote:
Idra such a nooby cheeser, didn't deserve that win... Elfi for life !

making a new account just to troll. lol


Actually my real account and the only one.


Your first post leads me to believe you might need to get a second one.
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