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On October 04 2011 15:53 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:51 DizzySheep wrote:On October 04 2011 15:49 wei2coolman wrote:On October 04 2011 14:49 icarly wrote:On October 04 2011 14:48 Packawana wrote:
I don't think we'll see a real test of PuMa's skill against Korean Terrans until Orlando at the earliest - NaDa was a pretty good preview, but it was still rather close (on both series). Bomber should be a good measuring stick to his ability. immvp made him look pretty bad in the MLG online invitational. Who doesn't MVP make look bad? Wait..didn't bomber beat MVP 2-0 in that invitational?...or am i remembering it wrong? These debates are stupid. Bomber won vs MVP with pure build order wins. Likewise puma lost vs mvp with unfortunate build order choices. They weren't even real games.
It's more the fact that MVP has an overall losing record to Bomber. 3-7 from my calculations (1-1 in all GSTLs, 2-4 Code A finals, 0-2 Global Invitational).
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On October 04 2011 15:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:51 darkest44 wrote:On October 04 2011 15:42 NewteN wrote:
TBH I've heard a lot about how PuMa v Idra at the EG house goes Puma's way pretty often, I think both Idra and Incontrol said it themselves.
Shrug - seems weird to 3-0 there buy w/e. If idra looks sloppy in the finals it will make people a lot more suspicious; puma is actually a very strong player and I actually can't even recall last time he got 3-0'd... He got 2-0d twice out of mlg invitational. Hes good but probably far from the best at this point. Not playing in a korean pro house probably catching up to him a bit. To be fair he played MVP who has like top 2 tvt in the world lol (I say top 2 because I know bomber's is good unless i'm mistaken). Puma's good but he's not MVP good. Coca's also really good as well its not like he lost to mediocre players.
Rofl Bomber v MVP
Anyways yea... the point wasn't that PuMa is #1 omfg gosu... it's that Idra has been super lackluster, to say the least, and that's probably why people are like WTF 3-0?!?!?!
Honestly makes sense to me, lol. Not anything to really write home about or actually accuse any of. Hopefully it means IdrA is improving a lot - perhaps a result of practicing against puma.
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Man all these commericals every two seconds... I'm about to get adblock just for this event..
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On October 04 2011 15:56 RotterdaM wrote:hey guys, just to keep you informed, Mrbitter should interview elfi and Idra within 15 minutes, we will start the finals straight away afterwards ;D TWEET IT! I have a feeling its going to be awesome ^_^, said it this morning already, a day of sc2 we will remember! 
Thnx for the update Rotterdam... awesome casting so far, really looking forward to the finals!
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On October 04 2011 15:56 phyren wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:49 Whiteman103 wrote:On October 04 2011 15:47 han0s wrote:
and once again a terran just 111's his way to a undeserved win ROFL he didnt in the first 3 games and crushed him pretty bad in 2 of them and the 1 he lost was a build order lose and a risky ghost push Puma is pretty good and can certainly win in a straight up game, so it is difficult to say his victories are undeserved. Still, this 1-1-1 push is pretty ridiculous. It's just so easy to execute for how goddam strong it is, and Puma throws it in at least once in every vs p series he plays or so it seems. It would be like Hongun going 3 gate void ray cheese in 25% of his matches and winning tournaments with it or a zerg player doing a baneling bust every other game.
Genius does that.
July does that.
Also he didn't win.
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So tired.... don't think I'm going to make it.
Oh well, without knowing the results, I can still go to sleep happy knowing Slasher's gonna' have to shave his head.
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On October 04 2011 15:53 doko100 wrote:
15 Minute game and Hasu didn't have templar or collossus -_-
to all the people who complain about balance, he build a robo bay, then canceled it like 10 seconds before it finished. then tech switched into twilight+high templar. hasuobs was completely indecisive, you can get out 2 collossus in time to defend against a 1/1/1 at around the 10min mark, this was 14 mins and he didn't have a single collossus, he could have easily held this with like 4-5 collossi and it IS possible.
stop whining, protoss players are so obnoxious sometimes
Hasu played far from perfectly, but your post is complete bullshit
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I'm really sad to have missed the whole tournament because of timezone :/
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On October 04 2011 15:55 Polarexia wrote:
GSL needs to take notes from IEM's soundtrack
Definitely not. This main-stream clubbing shit is by far the worst that can be. But of course, everyone has different opinion!
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I was under the impression Puma is in fact practicing in a Korean Pro House. Who keeps spreading these rumors that he isn't? Aren't Huk and Puma in Korea, soon to be joined by Idra and Incontrol?
Not everyone can win every tournament, nor can they do so in a convincing fashion. That Puma is one of those players who consistently comes to tournaments and absolutely devastates players showcases how excellent a player he is. He has done very well in all of the big tournaments he's played in recently.
Did anyone suggest Mvp or NesTea threw their matches to one another? SC2 has a lot of volatility. Errors add up. In my opinion, Puma was trying to metagame the fuck out of Idra by getting in his head the first game by beating him in a pure macro game. That it didn't work backfired. Sometimes, shit doesn't work.
It's awful that people would jump to these sort of conclusions based on only one thing: the person involved. While I can see where bad mannered Idra does a great job helping esports, the idea of accusing players of match-fixing based on a series of close matches is patently absurd.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Hence, your bullshit is dismissed.
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On October 04 2011 15:56 phyren wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:49 Whiteman103 wrote:On October 04 2011 15:47 han0s wrote:
and once again a terran just 111's his way to a undeserved win ROFL he didnt in the first 3 games and crushed him pretty bad in 2 of them and the 1 he lost was a build order lose and a risky ghost push Puma is pretty good and can certainly win in a straight up game, so it is difficult to say his victories are undeserved. Still, this 1-1-1 push is pretty ridiculous. It's just so easy to execute for how goddam strong it is, and Puma throws it in at least once in every vs p series he plays or so it seems. It would be like Hongun going 3 gate void ray cheese in 25% of his matches and winning tournaments with it or a zerg player doing a baneling bust every other game.
Hasu also lost 12 probes to the first banshee due to slow robo, didn't have/lost his observer before the key engagement, and cancelled his robo bay 10 seconds b4 finish to go a different tech path. It's not as if the game was decided as soon as puma chose to go 1-1-1.
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can anyone tell me the name of this song?
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On October 04 2011 15:58 Desert Fox wrote:
I was under the impression Puma is in fact practicing in a Korean Pro House. Who keeps spreading these rumors? Aren't Huk and Puma in Korea, soon to be joined by Idra and Incontrol?
Not everyone can win every tournament, nor can they do so in a convincing fashion. That Puma is one of those players who consistently comes to tournaments and absolutely devastates players showcases how excellent a player he is. He has done very well in all of the big tournaments he's played in recently.
Did anyone suggest Mvp or NesTea threw their matches to one another? SC2 has a lot of volatility. Errors add up. In my opinion, Puma was trying to metagame the fuck out of Idra by getting in his head the first game by beating him in a pure macro game. That it didn't work backfired. Sometimes, shit doesn't work.
It's awful that people would jump to these sort of conclusions based on only one thing: the person involved. While I can see where bad mannered Idra does a great job helping esports, the idea of accusing players of match-fixing based on a series of close matches is patently absurd.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Hence, your bullshit is dismissed.
The EG Korean house is not up yet. Huk is still at the oGs-TL house. Puma stayed for awhile after MLG Raleigh at the EG Phoenix house. And he's not staying at a pro house in Korea.
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I was almost sure that Hasuobs will hold when the robotics bay was going up but for whatever reason he built more immortals and the council. 
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On October 04 2011 15:58 Desert Fox wrote:
I was under the impression Puma is in fact practicing in a Korean Pro House. Who keeps spreading these rumors? Aren't Huk and Puma in Korea, soon to be joined by Idra and Incontrol?
Not everyone can win every tournament, nor can they do so in a convincing fashion. That Puma is one of those players who consistently comes to tournaments and absolutely devastates players showcases how excellent a player he is. He has done very well in all of the big tournaments he's played in recently.
Did anyone suggest Mvp or NesTea threw their matches to one another? SC2 has a lot of volatility. Errors add up. In my opinion, Puma was trying to metagame the fuck out of Idra by getting in his head the first game by beating him in a pure macro game. That it didn't work backfired. Sometimes, shit doesn't work.
It's awful that people would jump to these sort of conclusions based on only one thing: the person involved. While I can see where bad mannered Idra does a great job helping esports, the idea of accusing players of match-fixing based on a series of close matches is patently absurd.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Hence, your bullshit is dismissed.
Idra and Puma did not join HuK yet... and i dont think incontrol or the rest of EG are joining them, atleast not for a while.
Its a bit confusing actuly, they announced months ago the IdrA + HuK in korea thing and he is still in arizona
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On October 04 2011 15:58 Desert Fox wrote:
I was under the impression Puma is in fact practicing in a Korean Pro House. Who keeps spreading these rumors? Aren't Huk and Puma in Korea, soon to be joined by Idra and Incontrol?
Not everyone can win every tournament, nor can they do so in a convincing fashion. That Puma is one of those players who consistently comes to tournaments and absolutely devastates players showcases how excellent a player he is. He has done very well in all of the big tournaments he's played in recently.
Did anyone suggest Mvp or NesTea threw their matches to one another? SC2 has a lot of volatility. Errors add up. In my opinion, Puma was trying to metagame the fuck out of Idra by getting in his head the first game by beating him in a pure macro game. That it didn't work backfired. Sometimes, shit doesn't work.
It's awful that people would jump to these sort of conclusions based on only one thing: the person involved. While I can see where bad mannered Idra does a great job helping esports, the idea of accusing players of match-fixing based on a series of close matches is patently absurd.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Hence, your bullshit is dismissed.
Here Here.
IdrA has a lot to do with Esports growth, if you disagree with this, just compare his fan page to the rest in that forum, he's become a legitimate icon for SC2 whether you like him or not.
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On October 04 2011 15:55 Polarexia wrote:
GSL needs to take notes from IEM's soundtrack
I really like GSL's track-list, some of them are amazingly good
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On October 04 2011 15:59 ArchEnemy wrote:
can anyone tell me the name of this song?
bump! I'm interested aswell. The one before Snoop Dogg.
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On October 04 2011 15:58 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:55 Polarexia wrote:
GSL needs to take notes from IEM's soundtrack Definitely not. This main-stream clubbing shit is by far the worst that can be. But of course, everyone has different opinion!
haha, well to be honest both are crap 
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