EPT[GSL] Arena of Legends Finals - Page 23
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Was that series entertaining? I guess some people did. I did not. DRG made mistakes certainly but I'd prefer to watch a match where gimmick, abusive strategies were not utilised. Well done MKP. Commentators were not interested, nor am I. Time for bed. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:17 ComTrav wrote: Yeah. I still like how MKP forgets Combat Shields. His fruitdealer games are ok, but they were more shocking at the time. FruitDealer had just won a terran-heavy season 1 at a time when TvZ was widely considered imbalanced, and (as today) MKP exploited wonky timings to kill him. My personal favorite is when MKP walks into Fruit Dealer's base with like five marines, snipes an overlord, and leaves. (On Jungle Basin or something, ick.) Fact is, MarineKing was the only Terran who knew how to TvZ. so many pseudo intellectuals on TL who just copy someone else's opinion rather than making up their own mind | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
CHYEA cant believe he beat drg in dual sight, taldarim and belshir. How were the games? | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:21 jjhchsc2 wrote: wow congratz MKP!!!! CHYEA cant believe he beat drg in dual sight, taldarim and belshir. How were the games? The games were excellent. Now if mkp only fixes his tvt, which is mainly caused by his refusal to go mech, he'd be back to being a boss in no time! His tvz and tvp and still good, but his tvt is still awful right now. I don't know how many times he needs to lose bio vs mech before he realizes it doesn't work and goes mech himself. Hopefully one day he will learn. | ||
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DivinitySC2
United States244 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:21 Maghetti wrote: I agree completely. I feel like I'm in bizarro world where this boring gimmicky abusive 1 baser has a huge fan base. I feel confident in saying if mkp played the way he plays now(now being since the earl seasons where he got popular with marine splits) people would hate him. Watch this, Your world wont be as bizzare. | ||
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jupidar
United States229 Posts
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oPlaiD
United States31 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:19 aderum wrote: why would he change when its working? Why didnt DRG make roches? We will never know. I really don't understand it. DRG has been having tons of success in TvZ with his early roach pressure builds, yet he chooses not to do a single one against MKP despite his obvious predeliction towards hellions. Just a weird, weird game. Congrats to MKP, but this final was pretty silly in typical GSL fashion. | ||
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Brainiac
Poland641 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I hope not  | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:21 alan25 wrote: like what do u do against mass hellion? not make zling till u go lair/overseer scout the factories and premake a roach warren every game? or mass 4 spines per base? What? Why do people act as if a roach warren is a big investment. Making 20 roaches is a heavy tech investment, making a roach warren and like 4 roaches to defend heavy helion play or maybe some pressure from a few marines is not and you can transition into mutas okay. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:14 Itsmedudeman wrote: No, MVP was the first to split marines, but MKP just made it really famous through that series and being only marine heavy. MVP might have done it during the games, but MKP made it famous not only because he really good at it, but also because his pure marine strategy SOLELY depends on the fact that splitted marines are cost effective enough to kill banelings. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:22 jupidar wrote: what were the prizes? a little less than 2,000 USD for 1st, 1k for 2nd, 500 for third. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:21 Eishi_Ki wrote: Heh, yeah, I did watch GSL Season 2, thanks to the members of Club 2010 for reminding me about that. Yes, I did watch MKP vs Kyrix (live) and yes, I enjoyed the game, did it startle me though? No, no it didn't (maybe experience of BW talking). Was that series entertaining? I guess some people did. I did not. DRG made mistakes certainly but I'd prefer to watch a match where gimmick, abusive strategies were not utilised. Well done MKP. Commentators were not interested, nor am I. Time for bed. Haha, now the broodwar card "You enjoyed that because you didn't watched broodwar." This is the godwin point of the sc discussion, well done. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:20 Pwere wrote: While you're right about the first part, DRG is somewhat famous for his very aggressive roach timings ZvT. The problem is that it is just as gimmicky, and going roaches for safety on a map like TDA means you lose the macro game pretty hard. The roaches can clear the rocks at the 3rd so it's not as bad as it used to be (though the map is obviously much, much better for TvZ than it used to), but you need mutas to delay/deal with any tank/marine push which is just so, so strong when you can siege the natural this easily. Marineking mixed his pressure very well, mixing full hellions, marine/hellions and hellion elevator. Don't act like DRG is mentally challenged for not going roaches, when going roaches is just as big a gamble as relying on queen/ling micro to defend. Decent series overall, MarineKing deserved that win, he played great games. 2-3 roaches isn't that big of an investment, but definitely enough to hold off a huge hellion harassments | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:22 DivinitySC2 wrote: Watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtrUVkxMjPA Your world wont be as bizzare. you should not even reply to some of these people. a dude claiming that MKP is a "gimmicky abusive 1 baser" when he basically popularized the 1 rax expand and was ALREADY expanding in season2/3 where all the other terrans were 1 basing... this guy obviously does not watch the GSL or he's seriously uninformed  | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:22 DivinitySC2 wrote: Watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtrUVkxMjPA Your world wont be as bizzare. I have seen as 90+% of his games in tournaments, I don't see to see more of his play to know what he does very detailed. I hate it. I hate everything about his play. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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