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alan25
Profile Joined September 2010
United States379 Posts
October 02 2011 09:21 GMT
#441
like what do u do against mass hellion? not make zling till u go lair/overseer scout the factories and premake a roach warren every game? or mass 4 spines per base?
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
October 02 2011 09:21 GMT
#442
Heh, yeah, I did watch GSL Season 2, thanks to the members of Club 2010 for reminding me about that. Yes, I did watch MKP vs Kyrix (live) and yes, I enjoyed the game, did it startle me though? No, no it didn't (maybe experience of BW talking).

Was that series entertaining? I guess some people did. I did not. DRG made mistakes certainly but I'd prefer to watch a match where gimmick, abusive strategies were not utilised.

Well done MKP. Commentators were not interested, nor am I.

Time for bed.
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 09:22:42
October 02 2011 09:21 GMT
#443
On October 02 2011 18:17 ComTrav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:06 TheDougler wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


You poor bastard. You missed GSL2.

It's not your fault, it was a busy time in all our lives.

Go buy GSL season 2. Start watching the player known then as "Boxer". Note the rage, Artosis HATES him. Watch him kill the former champion fruitdealer... then watch the exact moment when rage turns to admiration as Foxer shows terran how to micro in what is STILL one of the best GSL series to date (MKP vs Kyrix). Think he can only do that TvZ? Watch the next series.


Boxer vs Kyrix on Shakuras. The entire series is awesome, but that game alone was something else.


Yeah. I still like how MKP forgets Combat Shields.

His fruitdealer games are ok, but they were more shocking at the time. FruitDealer had just won a terran-heavy season 1 at a time when TvZ was widely considered imbalanced, and (as today) MKP exploited wonky timings to kill him. My personal favorite is when MKP walks into Fruit Dealer's base with like five marines, snipes an overlord, and leaves. (On Jungle Basin or something, ick.)


Fact is, MarineKing was the only Terran who knew how to TvZ.


so many pseudo intellectuals on TL who just copy someone else's opinion rather than making up their own mind
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 02 2011 09:21 GMT
#444
wow congratz MKP!!!!
CHYEA
cant believe he beat drg in dual sight, taldarim and belshir.

How were the games?
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 09:23:54
October 02 2011 09:22 GMT
#445
On October 02 2011 18:21 jjhchsc2 wrote:
wow congratz MKP!!!!
CHYEA
cant believe he beat drg in dual sight, taldarim and belshir.

How were the games?


The games were excellent. Now if mkp only fixes his tvt, which is mainly caused by his refusal to go mech, he'd be back to being a boss in no time! His tvz and tvp and still good, but his tvt is still awful right now. I don't know how many times he needs to lose bio vs mech before he realizes it doesn't work and goes mech himself. Hopefully one day he will learn.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
DivinitySC2
Profile Joined July 2011
United States244 Posts
October 02 2011 09:22 GMT
#446
On October 02 2011 18:21 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it

I agree completely. I feel like I'm in bizarro world where this boring gimmicky abusive 1 baser has a huge fan base. I feel confident in saying if mkp played the way he plays now(now being since the earl seasons where he got popular with marine splits) people would hate him.


Watch this,



Your world wont be as bizzare.
To Iterate is Human, to Recurse, Divine
jupidar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States229 Posts
October 02 2011 09:22 GMT
#447
what were the prizes?
oPlaiD
Profile Joined March 2011
United States31 Posts
October 02 2011 09:23 GMT
#448
On October 02 2011 18:19 aderum wrote:
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On October 02 2011 18:16 Kogutz wrote:
mkp fanboys gonna explode from insane amount of love.
Not even close to entretained with those matches. The same stuff, over and over, since the 3rd game.



why would he change when its working? Why didnt DRG make roches? We will never know.


I really don't understand it. DRG has been having tons of success in TvZ with his early roach pressure builds, yet he chooses not to do a single one against MKP despite his obvious predeliction towards hellions. Just a weird, weird game.

Congrats to MKP, but this final was pretty silly in typical GSL fashion.
Samuel Lingle - Senior Editor - http://www.esfiworld.com/
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
October 02 2011 09:23 GMT
#449
Wow, DRG stomped by MKP. Guess his ZvT is not so good after all.
Si vis pacem para bellum
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 02 2011 09:23 GMT
#450
Seems MKP prepared pretty well for this serie. What I fear is that the timing he used are a good counter at DRG standard vT, and that could shake DRG enough to send him in a megaslump. (in addition to every terran copying MKP builds and pwning DRG with those)
I hope not
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 02 2011 09:24 GMT
#451
On October 02 2011 18:21 alan25 wrote:
like what do u do against mass hellion? not make zling till u go lair/overseer scout the factories and premake a roach warren every game? or mass 4 spines per base?

What? Why do people act as if a roach warren is a big investment. Making 20 roaches is a heavy tech investment, making a roach warren and like 4 roaches to defend heavy helion play or maybe some pressure from a few marines is not and you can transition into mutas okay.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 02 2011 09:24 GMT
#452
Wow MKP actually won a tournament? Anyone got a full live report of what happened? (Don't feel like reading through 23 pages -.-)
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
October 02 2011 09:24 GMT
#453
On October 02 2011 18:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:13 Pajegetc wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:05 Drey wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:03 Mioraka wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


No one said marines were OP before he made them OP. Most people were complaining about marauders.

He changed the TvZ matchup completely.

He popularized the 2 rax build.

He got 2nd place 4 times in GSL.


A lot of people said marines were good before him, they have insane dps and efficency, and how did he change TvZ ? Dont terran do marine/tank/medivacs anymore ?


Before MKP vs Kyrix, NO ONE knew that splitting marines against Banelings was effective.

No, MVP was the first to split marines, but MKP just made it really famous through that series and being only marine heavy.


MVP might have done it during the games, but MKP made it famous not only because he really good at it, but also because his pure marine strategy SOLELY depends on the fact that splitted marines are cost effective enough to kill banelings.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 02 2011 09:24 GMT
#454
On October 02 2011 18:22 jupidar wrote:
what were the prizes?

a little less than 2,000 USD for 1st, 1k for 2nd, 500 for third.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 02 2011 09:24 GMT
#455
On October 02 2011 18:21 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Heh, yeah, I did watch GSL Season 2, thanks to the members of Club 2010 for reminding me about that. Yes, I did watch MKP vs Kyrix (live) and yes, I enjoyed the game, did it startle me though? No, no it didn't (maybe experience of BW talking).

Was that series entertaining? I guess some people did. I did not. DRG made mistakes certainly but I'd prefer to watch a match where gimmick, abusive strategies were not utilised.

Well done MKP. Commentators were not interested, nor am I.

Time for bed.

Haha, now the broodwar card "You enjoyed that because you didn't watched broodwar."
This is the godwin point of the sc discussion, well done.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
October 02 2011 09:25 GMT
#456
On October 02 2011 18:20 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:14 StyLeD wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:14 JohnnyBlaze420 wrote:
marine king too scared to play macro games against drg....


Stop crying. DRG doesn't know how to make roaches.
While you're right about the first part, DRG is somewhat famous for his very aggressive roach timings ZvT. The problem is that it is just as gimmicky, and going roaches for safety on a map like TDA means you lose the macro game pretty hard. The roaches can clear the rocks at the 3rd so it's not as bad as it used to be (though the map is obviously much, much better for TvZ than it used to), but you need mutas to delay/deal with any tank/marine push which is just so, so strong when you can siege the natural this easily.

Marineking mixed his pressure very well, mixing full hellions, marine/hellions and hellion elevator. Don't act like DRG is mentally challenged for not going roaches, when going roaches is just as big a gamble as relying on queen/ling micro to defend.

Decent series overall, MarineKing deserved that win, he played great games.


2-3 roaches isn't that big of an investment, but definitely enough to hold off a huge hellion harassments
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
October 02 2011 09:25 GMT
#457
On October 02 2011 18:22 DivinitySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:21 Maghetti wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it

I agree completely. I feel like I'm in bizarro world where this boring gimmicky abusive 1 baser has a huge fan base. I feel confident in saying if mkp played the way he plays now(now being since the earl seasons where he got popular with marine splits) people would hate him.


Watch this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtrUVkxMjPA

Your world wont be as bizzare.


you should not even reply to some of these people.

a dude claiming that MKP is a "gimmicky abusive 1 baser" when he basically popularized the 1 rax expand and was ALREADY expanding in season2/3 where all the other terrans were 1 basing...

this guy obviously does not watch the GSL or he's seriously uninformed
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
October 02 2011 09:25 GMT
#458
I didn't get to watch (didn't pay) but I posted in previous round that if MKP advances to final he would beat DRG. MKP is in my eyes #1 TvZ player. You need not see further than his series v. Leenock where he basically beats Leenock with marines, marines, and more marines.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 02 2011 09:26 GMT
#459
On October 02 2011 18:22 DivinitySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:21 Maghetti wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it

I agree completely. I feel like I'm in bizarro world where this boring gimmicky abusive 1 baser has a huge fan base. I feel confident in saying if mkp played the way he plays now(now being since the earl seasons where he got popular with marine splits) people would hate him.


Watch this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtrUVkxMjPA

Your world wont be as bizzare.

I have seen as 90+% of his games in tournaments, I don't see to see more of his play to know what he does very detailed. I hate it. I hate everything about his play.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 02 2011 09:27 GMT
#460
Didn't MKP also popularize the 2 base early ghost bio push vs Protoss?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
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