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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 05 2011 11:53 GMT
#2741
TB don't do this in the forums, the lack of quality criticism that doesn't deserve your criticism.. Do your work and let the haters bitch about everything..

It this was payed they would be asking for free, if it was wheat and day9 they would be asking for tastosis, it it was bo3 they would be asking for bo5 etc.. etc.

you can't make everyone happy so just be glad most of us enjoy this.

arguing in TL forums is so 90s
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
November 05 2011 11:53 GMT
#2742
On November 05 2011 20:45 greatZERG wrote:
I think that TotalBiscuit is a decent play-by-play caster but that his analysis often leaves a lot to be desired. An example would be in Game 3 of the White-ra vs Idra series in which he was calling engagements in favour of White-ra which I believed was incorrect. My 2c


His analysis is bad, but apollo is co-casting to give the analysis, and he gives a ton of it.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2743
On November 05 2011 20:52 Tachion wrote:
This thread is a train and it just got blown off the tracks


Welcome to LR threads
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
awski
Profile Joined November 2011
16 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2744
Am I the only one refreshing like crazy?
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2745
People love bitching about things even there is no reason
日本語が上手ですね
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2746
On November 05 2011 20:53 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:45 greatZERG wrote:
I think that TotalBiscuit is a decent play-by-play caster but that his analysis often leaves a lot to be desired. An example would be in Game 3 of the White-ra vs Idra series in which he was calling engagements in favour of White-ra which I believed was incorrect. My 2c


His analysis is bad, but apollo is co-casting to give the analysis, and he gives a ton of it.


Apollo for the most part is doing a great job, that's why no one is complaining about it.
Moskau
Profile Joined July 2010
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 12:11:43
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2747
The irony in this statement is incredibly thick, though I doubt you're smart enough to grasp it. A strawman is a misrepresentation of someone's position and then an attack on said position, which is exactly what you just did and where the fallacy comes in.


Except I didn't attack your position, I changed the subject, therefore it was the ignoratio elenchi fallacy. Stop throwing out words you don't understand.
karnius
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom52 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2748
On November 05 2011 20:54 awski wrote:
Am I the only one refreshing like crazy?


Its amusing, I've got $5 on TB winning
Like a wet Noodle
MagickMan
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia498 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2749
On November 05 2011 20:53 Scribble wrote:
Some people stated their criticism abrasively and in a poorly written way. Alright...why are they being focused on instead of the half dozen or so folks who were pleasant and specific? Seems kind of like you're just ignoring criticism and justifying doing so by being angry at the few people who have it in for you anyway.

Also, I imagine that it must suck for fans of yours when you give so much more attention to haters than supporters.


My criticism was pleasant and specific, he didn't have any problems flaming me...
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2750
I overslept, missed the quarters, jumped to the last page of this LR and sees that a good caster is getting some shit. Not a good start on the day, guys. Not a good start at all.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:58:16
November 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#2751
On November 05 2011 20:53 Scribble wrote:
Some people stated their criticism abrasively and in a poorly written way. Alright...why are they being focused on instead of the half dozen or so folks who were pleasant and specific? Seems kind of like you're just ignoring criticism and justifying doing so by being angry at the few people who have it in for you anyway.

Also, I imagine that it must suck for fans of yours when you give so much more attention to haters than supporters.

A bunch of posts saying "thanks for the advice" would be pretty pointless. Telling people to shut up for being stupid is far more satisfying =P Don't you know how the internet works! Hate is always vocalised!


On November 05 2011 20:54 MagickMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:53 Scribble wrote:
Some people stated their criticism abrasively and in a poorly written way. Alright...why are they being focused on instead of the half dozen or so folks who were pleasant and specific? Seems kind of like you're just ignoring criticism and justifying doing so by being angry at the few people who have it in for you anyway.

Also, I imagine that it must suck for fans of yours when you give so much more attention to haters than supporters.


My criticism was pleasant and specific, he didn't have any problems flaming me...

You sure about this?

On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:44 FairForever wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:

I can take criticism, I am pointing out that the criticism is shit. You think I or anyone else should sit here and thank people for posting dumb things on this forum? If you can't be constructive, then you are of no use. Amusing isn't it, how community members often think to post that I can't take criticism and yet throw up their hands in grave offense whenever I don't treat their comments as pure internet gold. They are the random, unjustified and badly written remarks of a spectator, after the game has finished.


The criticism isn't shit, multiple people in this thread have told you that Idra won those engagements pretty handily.

No wonder Idra thinks you're a shit caster. You have little knowledge and lots of ego.


Hahaha, once again the random forum guy strikes. You have no idea what my relationship with IdrA is or what he actually thinks.

Stop calling things that haven't happened, you and Apollo did it about 5 times in that last series.


Oh look, yet more useful feedback with no actual information. God LR threads are so amazing.


You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.

He points out a specific issue with your post and you call him stupid. Not too pleasant to me.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 05 2011 11:55 GMT
#2752
On November 05 2011 20:54 MagickMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:53 Scribble wrote:
Some people stated their criticism abrasively and in a poorly written way. Alright...why are they being focused on instead of the half dozen or so folks who were pleasant and specific? Seems kind of like you're just ignoring criticism and justifying doing so by being angry at the few people who have it in for you anyway.

Also, I imagine that it must suck for fans of yours when you give so much more attention to haters than supporters.


My criticism was pleasant and specific, he didn't have any problems flaming me...


Most of the criticism was pleasant at the start (albeit I should have been more specific), he just didn't have problems flaming anyone.
krews
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1308 Posts
November 05 2011 11:55 GMT
#2753
On November 05 2011 20:53 betamale wrote:
totalbiscuit making an ass of himself in LR threads is better than his actual shoutcasting


haha its true
Hypersphere
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden46 Posts
November 05 2011 11:55 GMT
#2754
On November 05 2011 20:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:48 Shagg wrote:
Rofl how did you make this into a shitstorm D:


It's not hard. Stupid people posted stupid things then get offended when I told them how stupid they were.

Show nested quote +
Didn't Idra say you were a horrible caster during IPL that led to some angry twitter tantrum?


We were drinking last night and laughing about the stupid things that get posted on forums. Apt considering.

I apologized in my second post and you ignored that and started flaming someone else. The only one getting offended here is you.

I could make a very detailed explanation of why I think Idra attacked and pulled back perfectly and never lost more resources than he could afford, but that is completely not the point of the argument.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 05 2011 11:56 GMT
#2755
On November 05 2011 20:54 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:53 Scribble wrote:
Some people stated their criticism abrasively and in a poorly written way. Alright...why are they being focused on instead of the half dozen or so folks who were pleasant and specific? Seems kind of like you're just ignoring criticism and justifying doing so by being angry at the few people who have it in for you anyway.

Also, I imagine that it must suck for fans of yours when you give so much more attention to haters than supporters.

A bunch of posts saying "thanks for the advice" would be pretty pointless. Telling people to shut up for being stupid is far more satisfying =P Don't you know how the internet works! Hate is always vocalised!


Haha totally agreed
Play your best
nomatch353
Profile Joined January 2011
69 Posts
November 05 2011 11:56 GMT
#2756
On November 05 2011 20:55 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:54 MagickMan wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:53 Scribble wrote:
Some people stated their criticism abrasively and in a poorly written way. Alright...why are they being focused on instead of the half dozen or so folks who were pleasant and specific? Seems kind of like you're just ignoring criticism and justifying doing so by being angry at the few people who have it in for you anyway.

Also, I imagine that it must suck for fans of yours when you give so much more attention to haters than supporters.


My criticism was pleasant and specific, he didn't have any problems flaming me...


Most of the criticism was pleasant at the start (albeit I should have been more specific), he just didn't have problems flaming anyone.



When did he flame someone? are you retarded?
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
November 05 2011 11:57 GMT
#2757
Hahah this thread delivers.

I can see the puffy red face, eyes knit in furious concentration as sweat beads and settles on the brim on his top hat. LR thread flame engage little biscuit.
stu >)
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 05 2011 11:57 GMT
#2758
On November 05 2011 20:55 Hypersphere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 Shagg wrote:
Rofl how did you make this into a shitstorm D:


It's not hard. Stupid people posted stupid things then get offended when I told them how stupid they were.

Didn't Idra say you were a horrible caster during IPL that led to some angry twitter tantrum?


We were drinking last night and laughing about the stupid things that get posted on forums. Apt considering.

I apologized in my second post and you ignored that and started flaming someone else. The only one getting offended here is you.

I could make a very detailed explanation of why I think Idra attacked and pulled back perfectly and never lost more resources than he could afford, but that is completely not the point of the argument.


"I could prove your criticism wrong but instead I'm just going to sit hear whining about how upset you've made me" And therein we come down to the entire crux of the problem I have with people like you.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Jonneh
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom67 Posts
November 05 2011 11:57 GMT
#2759
Could someone who's opinion "counts" please just reiterate some points to him please? I get kinda tired of going through the cycle of below-par casting followed by threads full of feedback met with dismissive and flaming replies.

I'm prepared to be wrong about the way I see the game, but I do think the engagements were called totally incorrectly.
Bluest
Profile Joined September 2010
133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:59:01
November 05 2011 11:57 GMT
#2760
The casting was fine. Not perfect, but exactly in line with the quality these events usually have which is pretty good. Not every game can be cast by Tastosis. And just as importantly, even if Idra had already won it's the job of the casters to make a game seem as close as reasonably possible.

BUT, TB, coming into this thread and bitching out people watching an event is idiotic. I'm not saying they're right, I'm saying whether they're right or wrong you can do nothing but hurt yourself and the tournaments you cast with this behavior. Your value as a caster is directly linked to your popularity, and pissing off sc2 fans is just stupid. The only two casters who are unprofessional enough to come into threads and argue with fans are you TB, and Incontrol, and both of you receive incredibly negatives responses when you do so. Ignoring haters is the only acceptable response of a professional. Can you imagine a football caster getting into a pissing contest with a random fan? When a player gives fans the finger they get fined thousands of dollars for a reason. It reflects badly upon yourself, your team, and your profession.
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