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On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote: Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday.
Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers.
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On September 16 2011 13:29 MichaelDonovan wrote: MMA, Nestea, NaDa, Keen. Group of death. I don't think Keen is coming out of that one. I actually hope its MMA and NaDa some how. I'm a fan of both of them, and even though I think NesTea deserves to advance (and is likely to do so), I would be happy to see both NaDa and MMA advance to ro16.
I wouldn't automatically assume Nestea is making it out of there.
MMA and Nada are both stellar at TvZ. He won't make it out of there without some considerable effort.
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Pretty difficult groups for Puzzle, HungUn and Killer imo. I hope to god we don't have half the protosses falling to up-down (and none making it back out) again.
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On September 16 2011 13:35 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 13:34 Vindicare605 wrote:On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote: Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday. Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers. Nope. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/946_Puzzle
Oh wow, that's not even that recent. I can't believe i hadn't heard of that already.
In that case yea his PvT should improve a lot with all of those guys to train with.
Slayers has been on a killing spree lately. First Coca and then Puzzle?
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Keen why do you keep picking Nada? I want to be able to root for both of you but you always end up playing each other T_T
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Probably already been posted but.....
20/32 are terran fuck
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On September 16 2011 13:46 happyness wrote: Probably already been posted but.....
20/32 are terran fuck
Calm down it's only 4 more than last season.
The three "newcomers" are Ganzi, Jjajki and Taeja. All of which are solid.
MKP just simply earned his spot back.
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On September 16 2011 13:54 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 13:46 happyness wrote: Probably already been posted but.....
20/32 are terran fuck Calm down it's only 4 more than last season. The three "newcomers" are Ganzi, Jjajki and Taeja. All of which are solid. MKP just simply earned his spot back.
The difference between 16 and 20 is pretty significant, and a P/Z still dropped out for MKP to come back in. Code S has pretty officially progressed by one letter of the alphabet, and I think that's a reasonable cause for being less than calm.
Additionally, Group B is pretty damn stacked. Plus HuK actually has one of the easiest, which is a nice change.
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I'm watching part 1 of the nominations right now and the part with Jinro is getting realllly awkward to watch, damn
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On September 16 2011 13:39 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 13:35 HolyArrow wrote:On September 16 2011 13:34 Vindicare605 wrote:On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote: Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday. Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers. Nope. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/946_Puzzle Oh wow, that's not even that recent. I can't believe i hadn't heard of that already. In that case yea his PvT should improve a lot with all of those guys to train with. Slayers has been on a killing spree lately. First Coca and then Puzzle? Actually im pretty sure it was Puzzle first then Cocoa. Not the other watly around.
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On September 16 2011 11:26 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 11:16 Yamulo wrote:On September 16 2011 09:20 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 09:10 Censor wrote:On September 16 2011 09:04 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 08:51 Censor wrote:On September 16 2011 08:47 SpecFire wrote: You think? I mean both players are definitely good but I think Bomber is just beastly...
then again he lost to Keen last season but... Bomber's awesome, dont get me wrong, but hes not exactly consistent. Ryung plays a style that is just solid macro and solid timings, I dont think Bomber can beat him. edit:typos Bomber's beaten Ryung in a bo5 before and plays just as "boring" a style as Ryung (loltastic macro + timings). It can go either way, esp. in bo1. I think Bomber will have the advantage the longer the game goes, though. I can see where you're coming from. Both are solid, but I really, really like Ryung's TvT. I think its probably the 2nd best in the world behind MVP. Bomber's up there too. We'll see though, this match is hard to predict, haha I think it's really hard to rate TvTs in general, mostly because anyone with a top 10 TvT can take a game off anyone else with a top 10 TvT. Should be a fun match regardless. Dunno if I'll be able to stay awake for it though.  I really don't understand Keen's fixation on NaDa. It's kind of ridiculous. Puzzle choosing Bomber is somewhat strange too, but I guess if you're going to pick a Terran, you might as well pick one who's known for macro games than anything else. If this was true than MVP would lose TvT sometimes.... But he does not, the only game he lost to Top was a bo loss and he still made it a really long game.. But he does lose TvT sometimes (which you would know if you kept track of his results). He lost to MMA in the GFPA tournament very, very recently (bo5) after being up 2-0, and he's dropped games and series in the past before as well to players like Ganzi, Bomber, and even qxc. So, no, not completely invincible. As I said, hard to rate when players keep taking games off each other. There is a difference between playing for a GSL and for a regular tourney. Also you can say he loses games, but this does not means he loses series, especially not in gsl. Just the way he man handles top terrans when he is on his A game is just sick. When he lost to bomber (code A), he was on a slump and bomber was busy making a name for himself as one of the top terrans, and when Ganzi played him (super tourney) ganzi showed off a new style of play.
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holy shit group c wtf nada come on mma nada gogo
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On September 16 2011 13:54 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 13:46 happyness wrote: Probably already been posted but.....
20/32 are terran fuck Calm down it's only 4 more than last season. The three "newcomers" are Ganzi, Jjajki and Taeja. All of which are solid. MKP just simply earned his spot back.
I just have grown very tired of watching TvT
I wasn't necessarily complaining about balance.......
Though it does say something, doesn't it?
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On September 16 2011 14:26 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 11:26 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 11:16 Yamulo wrote:On September 16 2011 09:20 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 09:10 Censor wrote:On September 16 2011 09:04 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 08:51 Censor wrote:On September 16 2011 08:47 SpecFire wrote: You think? I mean both players are definitely good but I think Bomber is just beastly...
then again he lost to Keen last season but... Bomber's awesome, dont get me wrong, but hes not exactly consistent. Ryung plays a style that is just solid macro and solid timings, I dont think Bomber can beat him. edit:typos Bomber's beaten Ryung in a bo5 before and plays just as "boring" a style as Ryung (loltastic macro + timings). It can go either way, esp. in bo1. I think Bomber will have the advantage the longer the game goes, though. I can see where you're coming from. Both are solid, but I really, really like Ryung's TvT. I think its probably the 2nd best in the world behind MVP. Bomber's up there too. We'll see though, this match is hard to predict, haha I think it's really hard to rate TvTs in general, mostly because anyone with a top 10 TvT can take a game off anyone else with a top 10 TvT. Should be a fun match regardless. Dunno if I'll be able to stay awake for it though.  I really don't understand Keen's fixation on NaDa. It's kind of ridiculous. Puzzle choosing Bomber is somewhat strange too, but I guess if you're going to pick a Terran, you might as well pick one who's known for macro games than anything else. If this was true than MVP would lose TvT sometimes.... But he does not, the only game he lost to Top was a bo loss and he still made it a really long game.. But he does lose TvT sometimes (which you would know if you kept track of his results). He lost to MMA in the GFPA tournament very, very recently (bo5) after being up 2-0, and he's dropped games and series in the past before as well to players like Ganzi, Bomber, and even qxc. So, no, not completely invincible. As I said, hard to rate when players keep taking games off each other. There is a difference between playing for a GSL and for a regular tourney. Also you can say he loses games, but this does not means he loses series, especially not in gsl. Just the way he man handles top terrans when he is on his A game is just sick. When he lost to bomber (code A), he was on a slump and bomber was busy making a name for himself as one of the top terrans, and when Ganzi played him (super tourney) ganzi showed off a new style of play. MVP's never been in a slump.
He was sent down because his TvP was poor. He improved it. Neither his TvZ nor his TvT has ever suffered.
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On September 16 2011 14:50 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 14:26 Yamulo wrote:On September 16 2011 11:26 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 11:16 Yamulo wrote:On September 16 2011 09:20 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 09:10 Censor wrote:On September 16 2011 09:04 babylon wrote:On September 16 2011 08:51 Censor wrote:On September 16 2011 08:47 SpecFire wrote: You think? I mean both players are definitely good but I think Bomber is just beastly...
then again he lost to Keen last season but... Bomber's awesome, dont get me wrong, but hes not exactly consistent. Ryung plays a style that is just solid macro and solid timings, I dont think Bomber can beat him. edit:typos Bomber's beaten Ryung in a bo5 before and plays just as "boring" a style as Ryung (loltastic macro + timings). It can go either way, esp. in bo1. I think Bomber will have the advantage the longer the game goes, though. I can see where you're coming from. Both are solid, but I really, really like Ryung's TvT. I think its probably the 2nd best in the world behind MVP. Bomber's up there too. We'll see though, this match is hard to predict, haha I think it's really hard to rate TvTs in general, mostly because anyone with a top 10 TvT can take a game off anyone else with a top 10 TvT. Should be a fun match regardless. Dunno if I'll be able to stay awake for it though.  I really don't understand Keen's fixation on NaDa. It's kind of ridiculous. Puzzle choosing Bomber is somewhat strange too, but I guess if you're going to pick a Terran, you might as well pick one who's known for macro games than anything else. If this was true than MVP would lose TvT sometimes.... But he does not, the only game he lost to Top was a bo loss and he still made it a really long game.. But he does lose TvT sometimes (which you would know if you kept track of his results). He lost to MMA in the GFPA tournament very, very recently (bo5) after being up 2-0, and he's dropped games and series in the past before as well to players like Ganzi, Bomber, and even qxc. So, no, not completely invincible. As I said, hard to rate when players keep taking games off each other. There is a difference between playing for a GSL and for a regular tourney. Also you can say he loses games, but this does not means he loses series, especially not in gsl. Just the way he man handles top terrans when he is on his A game is just sick. When he lost to bomber (code A), he was on a slump and bomber was busy making a name for himself as one of the top terrans, and when Ganzi played him (super tourney) ganzi showed off a new style of play. MVP's never been in a slump. He was sent down because his TvP was poor. He improved it. Neither his TvZ nor his TvT has ever suffered.
Going to code A followed by not making it past ro32 in the super, and not getting out of a very manageable group in july sounds like a slump to me.
Also, with the small recent samples and current state of TvP I'm unsure he truly has improved in that match up.
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On September 16 2011 14:07 Scrandom wrote: I'm watching part 1 of the nominations right now and the part with Jinro is getting realllly awkward to watch, damn
Ugh it really was lol. Even before the cursing and arguing started, it made me cringe watching him grabbing and fumbling around with a bunch of different name tags in his hands trying to "troll" and what not. No offense to jinro but I never seen him as a funny guy, he should leave the trolling and stuff up to other people >,> Shoulda just been a boss like July and walked up grabbed a name and stuck it on before they could even really badger him with questions.
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code T here we come, hopefully we are seeing some new tactics instead of turtling in the middle of the map with tanks and vikings.
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Well, damn, some of the first groups are so stacked rofl Will be a bloodbath
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This is going to be so entertaining. MKP Huk and MMA ftw please!
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