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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
September 16 2011 04:34 GMT
#1881
On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote:
Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday.


Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
September 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#1882
On September 16 2011 13:29 MichaelDonovan wrote:
MMA, Nestea, NaDa, Keen. Group of death. I don't think Keen is coming out of that one. I actually hope its MMA and NaDa some how. I'm a fan of both of them, and even though I think NesTea deserves to advance (and is likely to do so), I would be happy to see both NaDa and MMA advance to ro16.


I wouldn't automatically assume Nestea is making it out of there.

MMA and Nada are both stellar at TvZ. He won't make it out of there without some considerable effort.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
September 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#1883
On September 16 2011 13:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote:
Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday.


Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers.


Nope.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/946_Puzzle
moofang
Profile Joined June 2011
508 Posts
September 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#1884
Pretty difficult groups for Puzzle, HungUn and Killer imo. I hope to god we don't have half the protosses falling to up-down (and none making it back out) again.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
September 16 2011 04:39 GMT
#1885
On September 16 2011 13:35 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 13:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote:
Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday.


Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers.


Nope.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/946_Puzzle


Oh wow, that's not even that recent. I can't believe i hadn't heard of that already.

In that case yea his PvT should improve a lot with all of those guys to train with.

Slayers has been on a killing spree lately. First Coca and then Puzzle?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 16 2011 04:39 GMT
#1886
Keen why do you keep picking Nada? I want to be able to root for both of you but you always end up playing each other T_T
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
September 16 2011 04:46 GMT
#1887
Probably already been posted but.....

20/32 are terran fuck
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 04:55:50
September 16 2011 04:54 GMT
#1888
On September 16 2011 13:46 happyness wrote:
Probably already been posted but.....

20/32 are terran fuck


Calm down it's only 4 more than last season.

The three "newcomers" are Ganzi, Jjajki and Taeja. All of which are solid.

MKP just simply earned his spot back.


aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 05:02:39
September 16 2011 05:01 GMT
#1889
On September 16 2011 13:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 13:46 happyness wrote:
Probably already been posted but.....

20/32 are terran fuck


Calm down it's only 4 more than last season.

The three "newcomers" are Ganzi, Jjajki and Taeja. All of which are solid.

MKP just simply earned his spot back.




The difference between 16 and 20 is pretty significant, and a P/Z still dropped out for MKP to come back in. Code S has pretty officially progressed by one letter of the alphabet, and I think that's a reasonable cause for being less than calm.

Additionally, Group B is pretty damn stacked. Plus HuK actually has one of the easiest, which is a nice change.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
September 16 2011 05:07 GMT
#1890
I'm watching part 1 of the nominations right now and the part with Jinro is getting realllly awkward to watch, damn
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
September 16 2011 05:10 GMT
#1891
On September 16 2011 13:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 13:35 HolyArrow wrote:
On September 16 2011 13:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 16 2011 12:49 elwoodng wrote:
Puzzle you crazy mother, why would you choose Bomber?? But I guess it's not hard to have good PvT if you're training with MMA, GanZi, Ryung and TaeJa everyday.


Puzzle is on Zenex not Slayers.


Nope.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/946_Puzzle


Oh wow, that's not even that recent. I can't believe i hadn't heard of that already.

In that case yea his PvT should improve a lot with all of those guys to train with.

Slayers has been on a killing spree lately. First Coca and then Puzzle?

Actually im pretty sure it was Puzzle first then Cocoa. Not the other watly around.
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Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
September 16 2011 05:26 GMT
#1892
On September 16 2011 11:26 babylon wrote:
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On September 16 2011 11:16 Yamulo wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:20 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:10 Censor wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:04 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:51 Censor wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:47 SpecFire wrote:
You think? I mean both players are definitely good but I think Bomber is just beastly...

then again he lost to Keen last season but...

Bomber's awesome, dont get me wrong, but hes not exactly consistent. Ryung plays a style that is just solid macro and solid timings, I dont think Bomber can beat him.

edit:typos

Bomber's beaten Ryung in a bo5 before and plays just as "boring" a style as Ryung (loltastic macro + timings). It can go either way, esp. in bo1. I think Bomber will have the advantage the longer the game goes, though.

I can see where you're coming from. Both are solid, but I really, really like Ryung's TvT. I think its probably the 2nd best in the world behind MVP. Bomber's up there too.

We'll see though, this match is hard to predict, haha

I think it's really hard to rate TvTs in general, mostly because anyone with a top 10 TvT can take a game off anyone else with a top 10 TvT. Should be a fun match regardless. Dunno if I'll be able to stay awake for it though.

I really don't understand Keen's fixation on NaDa. It's kind of ridiculous. Puzzle choosing Bomber is somewhat strange too, but I guess if you're going to pick a Terran, you might as well pick one who's known for macro games than anything else.

If this was true than MVP would lose TvT sometimes.... But he does not, the only game he lost to Top was a bo loss and he still made it a really long game..

But he does lose TvT sometimes (which you would know if you kept track of his results). He lost to MMA in the GFPA tournament very, very recently (bo5) after being up 2-0, and he's dropped games and series in the past before as well to players like Ganzi, Bomber, and even qxc. So, no, not completely invincible. As I said, hard to rate when players keep taking games off each other.

There is a difference between playing for a GSL and for a regular tourney. Also you can say he loses games, but this does not means he loses series, especially not in gsl. Just the way he man handles top terrans when he is on his A game is just sick. When he lost to bomber (code A), he was on a slump and bomber was busy making a name for himself as one of the top terrans, and when Ganzi played him (super tourney) ganzi showed off a new style of play.
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 16 2011 05:31 GMT
#1893
holy shit group c wtf nada come on mma nada gogo
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
September 16 2011 05:47 GMT
#1894
On September 16 2011 13:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 13:46 happyness wrote:
Probably already been posted but.....

20/32 are terran fuck


Calm down it's only 4 more than last season.

The three "newcomers" are Ganzi, Jjajki and Taeja. All of which are solid.

MKP just simply earned his spot back.





I just have grown very tired of watching TvT

I wasn't necessarily complaining about balance.......



Though it does say something, doesn't it?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 05:51:44
September 16 2011 05:50 GMT
#1895
On September 16 2011 14:26 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 11:26 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 11:16 Yamulo wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:20 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:10 Censor wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:04 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:51 Censor wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:47 SpecFire wrote:
You think? I mean both players are definitely good but I think Bomber is just beastly...

then again he lost to Keen last season but...

Bomber's awesome, dont get me wrong, but hes not exactly consistent. Ryung plays a style that is just solid macro and solid timings, I dont think Bomber can beat him.

edit:typos

Bomber's beaten Ryung in a bo5 before and plays just as "boring" a style as Ryung (loltastic macro + timings). It can go either way, esp. in bo1. I think Bomber will have the advantage the longer the game goes, though.

I can see where you're coming from. Both are solid, but I really, really like Ryung's TvT. I think its probably the 2nd best in the world behind MVP. Bomber's up there too.

We'll see though, this match is hard to predict, haha

I think it's really hard to rate TvTs in general, mostly because anyone with a top 10 TvT can take a game off anyone else with a top 10 TvT. Should be a fun match regardless. Dunno if I'll be able to stay awake for it though.

I really don't understand Keen's fixation on NaDa. It's kind of ridiculous. Puzzle choosing Bomber is somewhat strange too, but I guess if you're going to pick a Terran, you might as well pick one who's known for macro games than anything else.

If this was true than MVP would lose TvT sometimes.... But he does not, the only game he lost to Top was a bo loss and he still made it a really long game..

But he does lose TvT sometimes (which you would know if you kept track of his results). He lost to MMA in the GFPA tournament very, very recently (bo5) after being up 2-0, and he's dropped games and series in the past before as well to players like Ganzi, Bomber, and even qxc. So, no, not completely invincible. As I said, hard to rate when players keep taking games off each other.

There is a difference between playing for a GSL and for a regular tourney. Also you can say he loses games, but this does not means he loses series, especially not in gsl. Just the way he man handles top terrans when he is on his A game is just sick. When he lost to bomber (code A), he was on a slump and bomber was busy making a name for himself as one of the top terrans, and when Ganzi played him (super tourney) ganzi showed off a new style of play.

MVP's never been in a slump.

He was sent down because his TvP was poor. He improved it. Neither his TvZ nor his TvT has ever suffered.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 16 2011 06:07 GMT
#1896
On September 16 2011 14:50 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 14:26 Yamulo wrote:
On September 16 2011 11:26 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 11:16 Yamulo wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:20 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:10 Censor wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:04 babylon wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:51 Censor wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:47 SpecFire wrote:
You think? I mean both players are definitely good but I think Bomber is just beastly...

then again he lost to Keen last season but...

Bomber's awesome, dont get me wrong, but hes not exactly consistent. Ryung plays a style that is just solid macro and solid timings, I dont think Bomber can beat him.

edit:typos

Bomber's beaten Ryung in a bo5 before and plays just as "boring" a style as Ryung (loltastic macro + timings). It can go either way, esp. in bo1. I think Bomber will have the advantage the longer the game goes, though.

I can see where you're coming from. Both are solid, but I really, really like Ryung's TvT. I think its probably the 2nd best in the world behind MVP. Bomber's up there too.

We'll see though, this match is hard to predict, haha

I think it's really hard to rate TvTs in general, mostly because anyone with a top 10 TvT can take a game off anyone else with a top 10 TvT. Should be a fun match regardless. Dunno if I'll be able to stay awake for it though.

I really don't understand Keen's fixation on NaDa. It's kind of ridiculous. Puzzle choosing Bomber is somewhat strange too, but I guess if you're going to pick a Terran, you might as well pick one who's known for macro games than anything else.

If this was true than MVP would lose TvT sometimes.... But he does not, the only game he lost to Top was a bo loss and he still made it a really long game..

But he does lose TvT sometimes (which you would know if you kept track of his results). He lost to MMA in the GFPA tournament very, very recently (bo5) after being up 2-0, and he's dropped games and series in the past before as well to players like Ganzi, Bomber, and even qxc. So, no, not completely invincible. As I said, hard to rate when players keep taking games off each other.

There is a difference between playing for a GSL and for a regular tourney. Also you can say he loses games, but this does not means he loses series, especially not in gsl. Just the way he man handles top terrans when he is on his A game is just sick. When he lost to bomber (code A), he was on a slump and bomber was busy making a name for himself as one of the top terrans, and when Ganzi played him (super tourney) ganzi showed off a new style of play.

MVP's never been in a slump.

He was sent down because his TvP was poor. He improved it. Neither his TvZ nor his TvT has ever suffered.


Going to code A followed by not making it past ro32 in the super, and not getting out of a very manageable group in july sounds like a slump to me.

Also, with the small recent samples and current state of TvP I'm unsure he truly has improved in that match up.
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darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 06:14:31
September 16 2011 06:08 GMT
#1897
On September 16 2011 14:07 Scrandom wrote:
I'm watching part 1 of the nominations right now and the part with Jinro is getting realllly awkward to watch, damn


Ugh it really was lol. Even before the cursing and arguing started, it made me cringe watching him grabbing and fumbling around with a bunch of different name tags in his hands trying to "troll" and what not. No offense to jinro but I never seen him as a funny guy, he should leave the trolling and stuff up to other people >,> Shoulda just been a boss like July and walked up grabbed a name and stuck it on before they could even really badger him with questions.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
September 16 2011 06:11 GMT
#1898
code T here we come, hopefully we are seeing some new tactics instead of turtling in the middle of the map with tanks and vikings.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
September 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1899
Well, damn, some of the first groups are so stacked rofl
Will be a bloodbath
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ContactKilla
Profile Joined December 2010
United States194 Posts
September 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1900
This is going to be so entertaining. MKP Huk and MMA ftw please!
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